Gays May Be Prosecuted at 2014 Olympics

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Freud has been discredited.

psychologistworld.com/psychologists/freud_1.php

Single moms are growing in number so who educates and influences their kids? The media, and the media is mostly bad - an unwelcome guest in our home. Dad is MIA.

Peace,
Ed
Ed, Freud has not been discredited; his ideas were controversial from the start and remain so to the present day. His theories are still taught in every psychology program I know of.

The structure and dynamic of the family has an influence, for better or worse, on children, whether that family consists of the traditional nuclear family, single parents, stepparents, gay parents, grandparents, or any other variety. Freud would agree with this. There are single moms who are strict in their parenting and do not allow the media to play a role in their home, and then there are permissive single moms who allow their children to see anything and everything. Single parents have an effect on which kind of media, if any, their children come in contact with. Of course even with two parents in the home, children can find ways of viewing material that is forbidden to them since there are other influences in their lives such as peers, school, and teachers. But parents or caregivers in one form or another come first in shaping their children’s attitudes, values, and behaviors.
 
Freud has been discredited.

psychologistworld.com/psychologists/freud_1.php

Single moms are growing in number so who educates and influences their kids? The media, and the media is mostly bad - an unwelcome guest in our home. Dad is MIA.

Peace,
Ed
What media? You mean the radio you can choose not to have in your house? You mean the television you can use parental controls and online research to restrict the usage of (or not have one outside the master bedroom?) You mean school, where there are multitudes of choices to avoid public schooling? You mean Internet, where every browser has parental control settings and you can keep your child off the administrator account?
You always have the choice what your child is exposed to. If a parent chooses to allow gay “propaganda” reach their child, that’s the problem of the parent. But I still maintain my assertion that a gay child raised correctly with love would be unaffected by gay “propaganda.”

The only way kids are drawn into the LGBT communities are when their parents encourage them to go or tell them that they are evil for having SSAs (whether implied or outright, whether known or unknown). And as I said, every antagonistic, hostile, overly sexual gay person I’ve ever met had their family treat them like dirt for their orientation.
 
Thank you, Lisa. Here’s another perspective about gay pride.

catholicnewsagency.com/news/firefighters_forced_to_participate_in_gay_pride_parade_win_lawsuit/

Peace,
Ed
NOTE:

***All city officials should now think twice before ever making such a wrongheaded decision to violate their employees’ rights in such an improper manner again.”

Co-counsel in the case, Alliance Defense Fund Senior Counsel Joe Infranco added in a statement, “Many people may mistakenly think the ‘gay pride’ parade is merely a ‘fun’ event. They never would have imagined the crude sexual harassment these firefighters were forced to endure.”***

This has become quite common but I hope the case will prevent others from going through this misery. Our former Police Chief had a Lesbian daughter and pressured many cops to join the parade. Far as I know they were not forced as were the firefighters but this is the typical Leftist P.C. approach…you must be “tolerant” to the point of suffering humiliation.

Ironic how the firefighters’ rights were violated without a second thought by people who claim to be marching for their rights.

FWIW I’ve seen a few gay pride parades and while most of the people are reasonable and respectful, there are the “loud and proud” who are undressed, scantily dressed in thongs and carrying a bullwhip, demeaning religious and clergy by wearing clerical attire or a habit while simultaneously making vulgar gestures and screaming obscenities.

Oh yes I am well aware of these parades which do nothing but make me less sympathetic but again they do have the right to free speech and we have the right to tune it out.

Lisa
 
Freud has been discredited.

psychologistworld.com/psychologists/freud_1.php

Single moms are growing in number so who educates and influences their kids? The media, and the media is mostly bad - an unwelcome guest in our home. Dad is MIA.

Peace,
Ed
Not just the media but the public schools that propagandize. “Days of Silence,” Rainbow colors and other “celebrations” of homosexuality are ubiquitous in public school event calendars. Gay clubs, gay events, gay speakers are also there along with Planned Parenthood spewing their particular venom to the young people. Like the global warming mania, schools do not provide both sides of these issues but rather follow the 60s mantra, if it feels good do it. Rarely are the consequences of these behaviors even mentioned.

As to the theory that if a teen told their parents they were gay (or wanting to engage in premarital sex or drink or smoke or take drugs or any other risky behavior) that the parents would “kill them” is at least an indication the parents are involved in their lives. Frankly if my parents knew half the stuff I did in high school they would have killed me. This is not unique to young people who are confused about their sexuality.

Oh and the Obama Administration in its infinite wisdom defunded abstinence and chastity programs that actually were demonstrated to work…🤷

Tell me there is no agenda in public schools. I see the c**p my stepsons bring home

:rolleyes:
 
every antagonistic, hostile, overly sexual gay person I’ve ever met had their family treat them like dirt for their orientation.
I’ve seen and heard enough over the years, that I know at least sometimes when someone claims to have been ‘treated like dirt,’ because of such and such, the truth is sometimes that the ‘treated like dirt’ consisted of the family not agreeing with them, or not agreeing to pretend it’s normal, or not out and out celebrating.

And sometimes, the ‘treating like dirt’ may well be true, but it has nothing to do with their orientation (or race or religion or pierced tongue and green hair, or whatever). Sometimes someone is treated like dirt by their family just because the family is awful. Or perhaps the family is irritated with them but about something other than their sexual orientation (or whatever.)

For instance…I knew someone who felt she was treated badly on campus by being ignored by people who were friendly to others. I happen to know that she was ignored by those people as they walked by her *not * because she was lesbian, atheist, Catholic, black, Latina, or whatever it was she felt was causing ‘discrimination.’ She was ignored because of the way she herself treated people–a sharp, caustic tongue, a sense of humor that depended on putting others down. So people scooted on by hoping not to be noticed and become the target of her wit.

I know someone else who no doubt thinks I dislike him because he’s gay (a former friend.) No, I’m through with him because he’s a first class jerk, arrogant and obnoxious. I have plenty of gay friends I like very well.

But for both these people, they have their victim story.

So…I have no doubt some gays are treated like dirt by their families. That doesn’t always mean it’s because of their orientation.
 
Not just the media but the public schools that propagandize. “Days of Silence,” Rainbow colors and other “celebrations” of homosexuality are ubiquitous in public school event calendars. Gay clubs, gay events, gay speakers are also there along with Planned Parenthood spewing their particular venom to the young people. Like the global warming mania, schools do not provide both sides of these issues but rather follow the 60s mantra, if it feels good do it. Rarely are the consequences of these behaviors even mentioned.

As to the theory that if a teen told their parents they were gay (or wanting to engage in premarital sex or drink or smoke or take drugs or any other risky behavior) that the parents would “kill them” is at least an indication the parents are involved in their lives. Frankly if my parents knew half the stuff I did in high school they would have killed me. This is not unique to young people who are confused about their sexuality.

Oh and the Obama Administration in its infinite wisdom defunded abstinence and chastity programs that actually were demonstrated to work…🤷

Tell me there is no agenda in public schools. I see the c**p my stepsons bring home

:rolleyes:
Well said, Lisa. I’ve been around some ‘characters’ myself but I didn’t go to the parties because I knew there’d be various things going on, not to mention the drugs. Not to mention some experimentation. It amazed me how some of these ‘free’ people were following the party line at the time with their various actions, and consequences? According to [fill in the blank], it’s all pleasure with zero consequences. It certainly looked tribal and cult-like at times. And that gay bar… I was just there to hear the bands.

And schools? My God. Formula: gay marriage is legal in your state now so little 5 year old Tommy automatically gets a copy of King and King, and his parents are not required to be notified about a kid’s book that shows two men can get married.

amazon.com/Beyond-Diversity-Day-Curriculum-Sexualities/dp/074252034X

And people are surprised about Russia?

Peace,
Ed
 
This is why for the first time in my life… I have to support the Russians on this… to ‘accept’ the ‘gay’ lifestyle is an outright sin… remember is love the sinner hate the sin… not embrace their sin.
Well said, Lisa. I’ve been around some ‘characters’ myself but I didn’t go to the parties because I knew there’d be various things going on, not to mention the drugs. Not to mention some experimentation. It amazed me how some of these ‘free’ people were following the party line at the time with their various actions, and consequences? According to [fill in the blank], it’s all pleasure with zero consequences. It certainly looked tribal and cult-like at times. And that gay bar… I was just there to hear the bands.

And schools? My God. Formula: gay marriage is legal in your state now so little 5 year old Tommy automatically gets a copy of King and King, and his parents are not required to be notified about a kid’s book that shows two men can get married.

amazon.com/Beyond-Diversity-Day-Curriculum-Sexualities/dp/074252034X

And people are surprised about Russia?

Peace,
Ed
 
As to the theory that if a teen told their parents they were gay (or wanting to engage in premarital sex or drink or smoke or take drugs or any other risky behavior) that the parents would “kill them” is at least an indication the parents are involved in their lives. Frankly if my parents knew half the stuff I did in high school they would have killed me. This is not unique to young people who are confused about their sexuality.
This isn’t true. I’ve never met someone who was like “I can’t talk to my parents about the thought of drinking.” With everything else in life, kids are taught “I know you may want to do ______, but talk to us if a situation arises so you can avoid it because acting on it is immoral.” If the kid does it anyway, THATS when they’re worried about their parents With homosexuality, many parents teach their kids that gays are “perverts” and that imply that even the very THOUGHT of homosexual conduct tarnishes the kid. This is a lie, in direct contrast to Church teaching, that is propagated by way too many Christian parents.

Ultimately, as long as parents keep pushing gay kids away from them, gay kids are going to be attracted to a movement that teaches them that they have equal dignity, that they are Good As You. And honestly, in my opinion, the gay propaganda movement does more good than harm. How many 5-year-olds are forced to read books against their mothers will? Maybe 50 in a year? How many 16 year-olds are exposed to the “It Gets Better” project and turn away from suicide? I would venture many more. I have no problem with gays promoting the gay lifestyle as long as parents give their kids the false choice between suicide and the gay lifestyle. ESPECIALLY parents who throw kids out of their homes for having SSAs. We should throw parents in jail for teaching kids that SSAs make them evil before even thinking about this Russian bill.

But man if we tried to do that, I can imagine the reaction on here even though it would be in line with Church teaching. Think about that dichotomy.
 
This isn’t true. I’ve never met someone who was like “I can’t talk to my parents about the thought of drinking.” With everything else in life, kids are taught “I know you may want to do ______, but talk to us if a situation arises so you can avoid it because acting on it is immoral.” If the kid does it anyway, THATS when they’re worried about their parents With homosexuality, many parents teach their kids that gays are “perverts” and that imply that even the very THOUGHT of homosexual conduct tarnishes the kid. This is a lie, in direct contrast to Church teaching, that is propagated by way too many Christian parents.

Ultimately, as long as parents keep pushing gay kids away from them, gay kids are going to be attracted to a movement that teaches them that they have equal dignity, that they are Good As You. And honestly, in my opinion, the gay propaganda movement does more good than harm. How many 5-year-olds are forced to read books against their mothers will? Maybe 50 in a year? How many 16 year-olds are exposed to the “It Gets Better” project and turn away from suicide? I would venture many more. I have no problem with gays promoting the gay lifestyle as long as parents give their kids the false choice between suicide and the gay lifestyle. ESPECIALLY parents who throw kids out of their homes for having SSAs. We should throw parents in jail for teaching kids that SSAs make them evil before even thinking about this Russian bill.

But man if we tried to do that, I can imagine the reaction on here even though it would be in line with Church teaching. Think about that dichotomy.
You have a wonderful big heart but everything you say is based on speculation, supposition and assumptions. Trust me, kids do NOT talk to their parents about considering attending parties where drinking and drugging, if not sex is occurring. There are few kids who are under the illusion Mom and Dad are going to say “Well we know you will want to experiment so just be sure to call us if you’re stupid drunk and attempting to drive home…” Not a chance. Or how about “We know you want to have sex with Jimmy so instead of being in the back seat of the car why not bring Jimmy home before we return from work?” This is just not happening.

Here is reality, most parents do NOT spend ten seconds talking about gay people being perverts. Unless this agenda is shoved in their faces due to public school events or curricula, it’s just not on the average parent’s radar. Why should it be? What percentage of school children are struggling with SSA? How many more are struggling with other temptations; premarital sex, pregnancy, abortion, STDs, drinking, drugs, sniffing, cutting or other pathologies? Puberty is a time fraught with emotional ups and downs, experimentation, angst, drama and judgment issues. Parents of course need to set a tone that their children CAN talk to them about these issues and hopefully they do. But like so many homosexual apologists you seem to believe that homosexuality is not only more of an issue than other puberty related concerns but that somehow parents have chosen THIS issue as all important. It’s not and they don’t. It’s like the old story if you are a nail everything overhead looks like a hammer. You are so totally focused on your own issues that you extrapolate this to a much higher importance than any experience or study would indicate.

How many teens are traumatized by SSA vis a vis zits, weight, appearance, not having fashionable clothes, not being included with the “in group” bullying, pressure for grades and achievement…the list goes on and on. To say only 50 kids a year are forced to read gay propaganda books is utterly ridiculous. Are you aware that textbooks in California, one of the biggest markets in the country MUST include examples of persons with non-traditional sexual orientation? How many THOUSANDS of kids are impacted by this alone? And how many textbook printers are going to do a special run for California? This is invading the majority of schools either through curricula, textbooks, or staged events. There are gay propaganda groups brought into schools to promote gay lifestyles as equivalent to mom and dad raising their kids. And often parents are NOT informed nor must they give permission. Sometimes the kids are not allowed to opt out. That is tyranny of the minority and I strenuously object to it as do many Americans.

Same sex attraction is an issue but it is not universal nor of enough magnitude to justify propagandizing all children with the theory you might “save” a few here and there. You just don’t have the numbers. It’s your ox being gored so you are very committed and passionate about it. But please step back and look at the big picture. Not every confused child needs to be schooled in the homosexual agenda, nor is it the business of ANYONE but the child’s parents to discuss these issues unless there is clear evidence the child is somehow being abused or neglected.

Lisa
 
This isn’t true. I’ve never met someone who was like “I can’t talk to my parents about the thought of drinking.” With everything else in life, kids are taught “I know you may want to do ______, but talk to us if a situation arises so you can avoid it because acting on it is immoral.” If the kid does it anyway, THATS when they’re worried about their parents With homosexuality, many parents teach their kids that gays are “perverts” and that imply that even the very THOUGHT of homosexual conduct tarnishes the kid. This is a lie, in direct contrast to Church teaching, that is propagated by way too many Christian parents.

Ultimately, as long as parents keep pushing gay kids away from them, gay kids are going to be attracted to a movement that teaches them that they have equal dignity, that they are Good As You. And honestly, in my opinion, the gay propaganda movement does more good than harm. How many 5-year-olds are forced to read books against their mothers will? Maybe 50 in a year? How many 16 year-olds are exposed to the “It Gets Better” project and turn away from suicide? I would venture many more. I have no problem with gays promoting the gay lifestyle as long as parents give their kids the false choice between suicide and the gay lifestyle. ESPECIALLY parents who throw kids out of their homes for having SSAs. We should throw parents in jail for teaching kids that SSAs make them evil before even thinking about this Russian bill.

But man if we tried to do that, I can imagine the reaction on here even though it would be in line with Church teaching. Think about that dichotomy.
I’m skeptical. Do you have any scholarly references to support your statements? I’ve seen way too many “they hate me because I’m gay so I’ll just kill myself” statements without supporting evidence.

Peace,
Ed
 
One more thing:

“I’ve only met one person in my entire life who had a parent that espoused proper Catholic teaching who did any homosexual behavior in their life, and she’s straight and merely tried it out once. I would actually propose the idea that the entire reason most gay people act on their inclinations is their parents.”

Perhaps you can explain the number of gay people who claim they were born that way or say ‘God made me like this.’

Peace,
Ed
 
Good evening Slavonic,
You stated in you’re post:

“It’s not a lifestyle, but a life like anyone else’s.”

It’s a life void of right reason. A life lived contrary to Natural Law, and a conscience willfully depraved in order to justify evil. All under the guise of “freedom.” True freedom has been replaced with license. Almost everywhere, salvation is being equated with “self-growth” or feelings of" O.K.-ness." They have allowed themselves to lapse into a subjectivist frame of mind believing that no idea or action is of any more value than any other idea or action. If you get into a discussion with him/her, you quickly find that he/she has no idea of higher or lower, better or worse. He/she is set on the the “equality” and “acceptance” of all ideas and will give equal weight to any and all ideas. The thing that they can’t grasp is the idea of specialness. Everything reduces to the same level. We especially do them violence when we reinforce these unreasonable ideas and action’s, because as St. Albert The Great states: for those who become addicted to them are seldom freed from that vice; they are as contagious as disease, passing quickly from one person to another." We must not become enablers.

It used to be everyone was entitled to their own opinion (no matter how foolish), but not their own facts. But that’s not the case anymore. Facts matter not at all. Truth is what I say is right, and {nothing} anyone else says could possibly be true. It’s not only that I feel it to be true but that I FEEL it to be true. There’s not only an emotional quality, but there’s a selfish quality. Once upon a time, words had weight. Now they float. In the past, people understood equality as something basic that we all share before God and the law. Now it means that almost everyone feels anointed to have his or her views taken seriously, no matter how unfettered by fact, logic, civility, or common sense. Unfortunately, experience teaches the opposite. Some ideas are bad. Some opinions are foolish. Some feelings are vindictive. And some people lie.

I noted in an earlier post how The Founders, and in particular how Noah Webster intentionally altered the language to deceive, and change perception to break away from the truth. George Orwell also recognized the decay of language, and how it’s intentionally used to obscure or defend the indefensible. Words have power because they have meaning. Words shape our thinking, which shapes our actions. Dishonest dialogue with its misuse of words leads to dangerous behavior and bad laws. When the meaning of a word is subverted, it acts like a virus. It infects other words and ideas. It spreads the habit of distorting the Truth, to serve an agenda and change cultures. And the Culture of Death which includes sodomy are well versed in these tactics. In a different age, we called this lying.

Anyone who pays attention understands they never give dialogue on solid ground; they know too well that in a discussion of principles and morals they will meet irretrievable defeat. They prefer tactics of recrimination and, under the sting of a just flagellation, whiningly accusing you of lack of charity. This is also the ground which certain Catholics, tainted with Liberalism, are in the habit of taking. Faithful Catholics, on this point as on all others have right reason. They have only its shadow.

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Part 2:
Hello SMGS127,

“The problem is that you believe this rosy view of what Catholics believe.”

The Church has spoken consistently and clearly through the Popes, Church Fathers, Doctors and Saints. Run over the list of ecclesiastical writers- you will then see how the Apostles treated this subject, how the Fathers, and The Church herself in her official language has admonished them. There is then no sin against charity in calling evil EVIL. If the propagation of good and the necessity of combating evil require the employment of terms somewhat harsh against error and its supporters, this usage is certainly not against charity. In order to convince the people, we must speak to their heart and their imagination, which can only be touched by ardent and impassioned language. To be impassioned is not to be reprehensible when our heat is the holy ardor of Truth. They have provided us a litany of writing’s that we have an obligation to read and share, not the feel good lies of this movement, society, biased media, and psychologist. Here is but a sample of the mountain of documents that we must immerse ourselves in, for one day we will answer for what we have done and what we have FAILED to do.

Saint Thomas Aquinas, writing about sins against nature, explains: “However, they are called passions of ignominy because they are not worthy of being named, according to that passage in Ephesians (5:12): ‘For the things that are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of.’ For if the sins of the flesh are commonly censurable because they lead man to that which is bestial in him, much more so is the sin against nature, by which man debases himself lower than even his animal nature.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Super Epistulas Sancti Pauli Ad Romanum I, 26, pp. 27f)

Saint John Chrysostom denounces homosexual acts as being contrary to nature. Commenting on the Epistle to the Romans (1: 26-27), he says that the pleasures of sodomy are an unpardonable offense to nature and are doubly destructive, since they threaten the species by deviating the sexual organs away from their primary procreative end and they sow disharmony between men and women, who no longer are inclined by physical desire to live together in peace.
The brilliant Patriarch of Constantinople employs most severe words for the vice we are analyzing. Saint John Chrysostom makes this strong argument: “All passions are dishonorable, for the soul is even more prejudiced and degraded by sin than is the body by disease; but the worst of all passions is lust between men… The sins against nature are more difficult and less rewarding, since true pleasure is only the one according to nature. But when God abandons a man, everything is turned upside down! Therefore, not only are their passions [of the homosexuals] satanic, but their lives are diabolic… So I say to you that these are even worse than murderers, and that it would be better to die than to live in such dishonor. A murderer only separates the soul from the body, whereas these destroy the soul inside the body… There is nothing, absolutely nothing more mad or damaging than this perversity.” (St. John Chrysostom, In Epistulam ad Romanos IV, in J. McNeill, op. cit., pp. 89-90). Page 1

Our Lord speaking to Saint Catherine of Siena, a religious mystic of the 14th century, relays words of Our Lord Jesus Christ about the vice against nature, which contaminated part of the clergy in her time. Referring to sacred ministers, He says: “They not only fail from resisting this frailty [of fallen human nature] … but do even worse as they commit the cursed sin against nature. Like the blind and stupid, having dimmed the light of their understanding, they do not recognize the disease and misery in which they find themselves. For this not only causes Me nausea, but displeases even the demons themselves, whom these miserable creatures have chosen as their lords. For Me, this sin against nature is so abominable that, for it alone, five cities were submersed, by virtue of the judgment of My Divine Justice, which could no longer bear them… It is disagreeable to the demons, not because evil displeases them and they find pleasure in good, but because their nature is angelic and thus is repulsed upon seeing such an enormous sin being committed. It is true that it is the demon who hits the sinner with the poisoned arrow of lust, but when a man carries out such a sinful act, the demon leaves.” (St. Catherine of Siena, El diálogo, in Obras de Santa Catarina de Siena (Madrid: BAC, 1991), p. 292)

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Part 3

SMGS127

“Honestly, I think that the gay “propaganda” movement actually doesn’t do that much.”

The Lifesite News article I supplied in my last post speaks for itself some will dismiss it and explain it away. But the faithful who are one with Holy Mother Church, know we have a duty to instruct the ignorant in season and out of season. I don’t care how many times I’m labeled as a bigot, homophobe, or militant. That is the work of Satan, the father of lies speaking through these troubled souls. And they will become lost souls damned to the fires of hell if we do nothing. And if I do nothing I will be without excuse, when I stand before Our Lord.

freerepublic.com/focus/news/828217/posts

I have added the link above because I recall reading a book by William Kilpatrick on subjectivism and the three habits of mind. He states: “It is not unusual to meet people who in the course of a conversation will traverse topics ranging from shopping and taxes to incest and oral sex without batting an eyelash or changing their Tone of voice. Nor will the presence of children or teenagers have any effect on what they say. Along with the ability to discriminate one topic from another they have lost the ability to discriminate between conversation appropriate for adults and conversation appropriate for youth.” Now read paragraph three notice the striking similarity. Some of the reporting in the RollingStone article above appears to be suspect, and they are known for their sensationalism. I have supplied another link that gives credence to the subject matter.

fgfbooks.com/Manion/2013/Manion130723.html

"Bug Chasers and Gift Givers? I can’t even wrap my mind around this EVIL!!! If we continue to make excuses for this disordered behavior and scapegoat Catholics, Baptists and everyone else under the sun we do them no favors. We need to change the belief before we can change the behavior.

SMGS127:
"Most of the people I met either had laissez faire parents or (the majority of the time) had parents that were so ruthlessly harsh that they scared their childen. My friend works at a summer camp and doesn’t advertise her sexuality, but of course the other counselors talk about it and the 8th graders at camp overhear. She’ll have, every year, one or two kids come up to her and talk about how upset they are that they’re gay, and that they want to talk to her about it because their “parents will kill them.”

“Now let me ask you something. Is that the fault of my lesbian friend, or is that the fault of the parents of these children who provide such an antagonistic home for their children that they can’t be open about their struggles? The most intolerant, antagonistic, don’t-disagree-with-me gay people I’ve ever met had parents who treated them like absolute dirt as kids for their SSAs. Their hearts are hardened to our message not through any gay ‘propaganda’ but through the horrible parenting job of their parents.”

You are basing your assumptions on the testimony of 8th graders. I know many teenagers who think their world is coming to an end because their “intolerant parents” make them take out the trash. Or “my mom and dad won’t allow me to get a cell phone.” You admittedly struggle with SSA, but base you’re conclusions on the word of teens who claim to have “SSA”, and blame everything on the parents without ever meeting mom or dad? Do I understand you correctly? If I don’t then please correct me. But if I do, should anyone be undermining the parents authority based on hearsay especially if we already come to the table with a bias?

You are in my prayers with you’re fight against SSA, please pray for me to stay away from sin and many flaws.

Ultimately we don’t know the intent of Putin. If it turns out to be a witch hunt then we have a duty to act. But we do know the intent of those who engage in sodomy, active pedophiles, GIFT GIVERS and BUG CHASERS. Nations have a duty before God to protect society. And when the State fails, and even promotes the sin of Sodom we as Christians have a duty before God to act. God is the arbiter of Law which has been entrusted to men to obey.

Pax,
Tarpeian
 
I identify very heavily with my SSAs. It’s not because I believe I should act on them, but rather because they are the single biggest struggle I will go through in my entire life, and they are a lifetime struggle. In addition, by identifying with my SSAs, I am able to help kids (and by kids I mean high schoolers and college kids) who struggle with SSAs to realize that their sexual orientation isn’t the end-all-be-all of life. It also keeps me up-to-date on these kids, many of whom have horrible parenting.
Yet there’s a difference between identifying as a chaste SSA and identifying as an unchaste LGBT. Imagine, for instance, a high-school dropout who turned his life around. If he were to identify himself as just a dropout, and endorse parades that celebrated dropping out with no mention of correcting the situation, this would not only be absurd, but would send a negative message to his community. The only reasonable way to identify with a temptation is to identify with fighting it, not to celebrate the temptation itself, and especially not to celebrate giving in to it.
This is the pattern with any successful endeavor. Does an athlete identify with losing or does he focus on winning? Does a CEO identify with losses or does he try to make his company profitable? Does Saint Paul identify himself as having killed Christians, or does he severely condemn his past actions?
If I was gay, I would think hip-hop hates me
Have you read the YouTube comments lately?
Newsflash: hip-hop isn’t a shining example of moral virtue.
Underneath it’s all the same love
About time that we raised up"
It’s not the same. One is inherently disordered, the other isn’t. But, again, this is hip-hop morality.
You mean Internet, where every browser has parental control settings and you can keep your child off the administrator account?
This theory has two problems. The first is that the children can access the internet during school. The second is that the default controls are fairly easy to bypass.
 
I agree. The media, Hollywood and the American government have been bullying and brainwashing the general public that homosexual behavior is good and more and more people are drinking the koolaid.
So do I. More power to them.
 
Yet there’s a difference between identifying as a chaste SSA and identifying as an unchaste LGBT. Imagine, for instance, a high-school dropout who turned his life around. If he were to identify himself as just a dropout, and endorse parades that celebrated dropping out with no mention of correcting the situation, this would not only be absurd, but would send a negative message to his community. The only reasonable way to identify with a temptation is to identify with fighting it, not to celebrate the temptation itself, and especially not to celebrate giving in to it.
This is the pattern with any successful endeavor. Does an athlete identify with losing or does he focus on winning? Does a CEO identify with losses or does he try to make his company profitable? Does Saint Paul identify himself as having killed Christians, or does he severely condemn his past actions?
Why is it dichotomous? Why can’t you identify with losing to drive yourself to win? I also didn’t mean to say that gay pride events are optimal, just that currently they are doing a good that parents are dropping the ball on. Why should we work on banning the good before working on getting parents to cover that area? I certainly would demand a mandatory 10 year jail sentence for parents who throw out their unwanted gay kids before I’d pass any law regarding “propaganda.”
Newsflash: hip-hop isn’t a shining example of moral virtue.
True…but it’s a song lyric, and not all hip hop is bad. Plus, he’s making the point that hip hop is popular and constantly talks about gays as sub-human. Why don’t Catholics complain about how gays are treated by the media? Why do gays have to rely on those who promote the behavior to do so?
It’s not the same. One is inherently disordered, the other isn’t. But, again, this is hip-hop morality.
You’re not reading his lyric correctly. He’s saying that underneath all the fear, we all have the same love for each other, so why are gays hated on so much and treated with such vitriol?
This theory has two problems. The first is that the children can access the internet during school. The second is that the default controls are fairly easy to bypass.
My Catholic school put a blanket policy in place for graduate students that was virtually unbreakable. Internet parental controls can be the same, but you have to actually put in effort, not just let your child run free.

And again, you can choose what school your kid goes to. If you don’t want them exposed, put more effort into your kid going to private or home school.

Also I apologize but I can’t respond to everything today. I’m out of Internet for a week, so I can’t respond as well on a phone.
 
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Tarpeian:
You are in my prayers with you’re fight against SSA, please pray for me to stay away from sin and many flaws
Just wanted to say of course :). I’ll respond to your other posts in a week or so, if that’s okay with moderators.
 
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