Gay's OK (In Illinois)

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Hey folks!!! Remember the song, “They will know we are Christians by our love”? What kind of example are we showing here?
 
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Katie,

If you had half as much compassion for orthodox, stalwart Catholics as you do for public, unrepentent grave sinners who try to lead others off the road to salvation, I would take you more seriously.
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You and Lance-boy vs. me and my sons. No weapons. Name the time. :mad:
 
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Katie,

If you had half as much compassion for orthodox, stalwart Catholics as you do for public, unrepentent grave sinners who try to lead others off the road to salvation, I would take you more seriously.
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Thanks Fix, I needed that after dealing with katherine2.
 
Katherine,

This is a place for people to post personal opinons, I do so that regularly, as do you. My opinions are not in-line with yours----so what? The world ain’t gonna come crashing down because two strangers do not agree. Nor is my life going to be touched because you think I am an insulting person. Frankly I have no clue why you think I insulted you, yet I do apologize if you feel slighted by my words.

You said that the bill contains a Church provision, but I heard an Illinois State Representative (yesterday morning) say that the bill does NOT have a Church exemption. You posted part of a bill and I have no way of knowing if that bill is the same in question, nor do I know the context of what you posted. If one of the Illinois State representatives is a liar, then that is something I would like to know. Whether or not there is such an exemption in the signed bill is a very important issue.

So, again, do you have a link to the actual bill–I have not been able to find the bill online?
 
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TPJCatholic:
f you adhere to all of the things that I stated in the previous message, then I do not know why you would call yourself progressive. On the other hand, if there are teachings of the faith that you do not follow, then that would explain why you would call yourself progressive.

You see, the Roman Catholic faith is NOT progressive at all…it is simply the full truth and we as Catholics are expected to accept and follow every bit of it.
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I think you will find that the Catholic Church is neither conservative nor progressive. It is primarily a way of bringing the salvation of Jesus Christ the Saviour to all human persons willing to accept Him.

Insofar as the Church is a Social body, which of course Ecclesia necessarily is, it has a political aspect but it is not and cannot ever be regarded primarily as a political organisation.

It is my belief based on personal experience that it is possible to be Catholic and conservative or Catholic and liberal or Catholic and socialist. I appreciate that the use of the “S” word may upset Americans of a nervous disposition. Get over it, millions of Catholics around the world beyond the boundaries of your country don’t have the slightest problem in reconciling socialism and Catholicism.

Just for the record I think of myself as green and Catholic, not necessarily in that order
 
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TPJCatholic:
Katherine,

This is a place for people to post personal opinons, I do so that regularly, as do you. My opinions are not in-line with yours----so what? The world ain’t gonna come crashing down because two strangers do not agree. Nor is my life going to be touched because you think I am an insulting person. Frankly I have no clue why you think I insulted you, yet I do apologize if you feel slighted by my words.
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I appreciate your concern. I am very upset with throwing the word progressive around like is mean faithlessness. I’m not going to defend everything done in the name of progressive Catholicism, in fact I’m willing to criticize some things done in its name. But I think there is a long and honorable tradition within the Church.

I was a national officer of the National Catholic Committee for Interracial Justice back in the 1950s. I got called a lot of nasty things back then. I believed I was acting on my Catholic faith back then – though a lot of my fellow Catholics didn’t see things my way.
So, again, do you have a link to the actual bill–I have not been able to find the bill online?
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You know, I found it. I would think a bright young man like you could.
 
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Matt25:
I think you will find that the Catholic Church is neither conservative nor progressive. It is primarily a way of bringing the salvation of Jesus Christ the Saviour to all human persons willing to accept Him.

Insofar as the Church is a Social body, which of course Ecclesia necessarily is, it has a political aspect but it is not and cannot ever be regarded primarily as a political organisation.

It is my belief based on personal experience that it is possible to be Catholic and conservative or Catholic and liberal or Catholic and socialist. I appreciate that the use of the “S” word may upset Americans of a nervous disposition. Get over it, millions of Catholics around the world beyond the boundaries of your country don’t have the slightest problem in reconciling socialism and Catholicism.

Just for the record I think of myself as green and Catholic, not necessarily in that order
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And I thought we would never agree on anything. You are right on target on this. It is just when liberals or socialist tell us conservatives we are not being Catholic we tend to ‘get our shorts in a knot’.
 
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katherine2:
You know, I found it. I would think a bright young man like you could.
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Katherine, cut the insults, and post a link to the blasted bill already. I’ve been trying to search on the Illinois government site, and the bill is not easily found. So if you actually want to engage others in a discussion about this topic, provide a link so that we can all read the bill’s language for ourselves. Otherwise stop wasting our time.
 
Katherine,

Interesting. So, one of the main planks of being a progressive Catholic is do be downright rude? I extended an apology to you, yet you refuse to provide a bill that you “claim” contains an exemption for Churches (which if that is true that one of my reps is a bold face liar).

Very interesting and informative. I now realize that there is little reason to have discussions with you. I do thank you for the various chats we have had.

I truly pray that God blesses you and guides all your paths. 🙂
 
Read Luke 17:3, I have no time for your assinine comments. Keep’m to yourself.

Luke 17:3 - Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
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Jermosh:
But you are a sinner as well. Even the rightous fall 7 times a day. So your going to rebuke yourself?
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Luke 17:3 - Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

The homos aren’t repenting…so I’m rebuking them…see the difference? Or do I have to spell it out for you?
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Jermosh:
But you are a sinner as well. Even the rightous fall 7 times a day. So your going to rebuke yourself?
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You are supposed to be charitible w/o acceptin the sin/lifestyle of the homos. To do so would be a sin in itsself.
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Matt25:
Actually I have read the Bible. I don’t recall any part of the Gospel where Our Lord used words like whore, thief or pervert to describe the “public sinners” he ministered to. He reserved his sternest words for the outwardly religious types of his day who felt that the highest calling of God was to condemn others rather than serve them.

That being so is the word “homo” a loving and charitable way to refer to homosexual persons?
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Almeria:
Katherine, cut the insults, and post a link to the blasted bill already. I’ve been trying to search on the Illinois government site, and the bill is not easily found. So if you actually want to engage others in a discussion about this topic, provide a link so that we can all read the bill’s language for ourselves. Otherwise stop wasting our time.
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the bill was carried over from the previou session. You have to go back to the 2003-2004 session to find the bill.

Do you really think I have the ability to make up all that legal text and citations? I’m an old lady living alone.

Does all of this mean that folks are now okay with gay rights legislation so long as churches are exempt?
 
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Very true, if even half of the homo supporters had as much compassion for Church and the Bible, instead of defending sin, and in Katherine’s case…want to resort to violence, the world would be a much better place. Not to mention there would be no UN.
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Katie,

If you had half as much compassion for orthodox, stalwart Catholics as you do for public, unrepentent grave sinners who try to lead others off the road to salvation, I would take you more seriously.
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Interesting. So, one of the main planks of being a progressive Catholic is do be downright rude?​

Unfortunately, that is a hallmark of the gay “rights” agenda. It’s not about rights it’s about censoring and ridiculing those who view gay sex as a sin.
 
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