Genesis of social justice

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THOSE WHO EARN THE LEAST , work harder .landlords and moneylenders do not work. others work while they, the landlords and moneylenders live the good life.
ROFLMBO!!! Those who earn the least work the least. You think that just because someone expends more physical energy that somehow that means that they work the hardest? That is simplistic logic. If such were true, then that means that my son-in-law works very hard, because he expends googles of time playing games, but does nothing to earn a living. “Lazy idiot” is what I call him.
 
INNITIAL INVESTMENT. now you are talking, I have spent 12yrs helping victims of landlords and moneylenders, during that time I have photographed real estate advertising, it really is incredible that nothing is done. one advert that stands out,

$10 deposit on a $350.000 apartment. providing the buyer already owns property, the sign also had details of how the property would be paid off,
tenant 85% taxman 10% and the buyer 5%.
There is no social justice in this . I do know of a religious organization that ensures its members can buy property as a investment , without having any security . other members of the organization stand as guarantor, so without having any money they can pay a deposit and then use a tenant to pay for all the financial obligations of the person who legal owns the property, LEGAL because the majority of polititians and lawyers are landlords and moneylenders, so can we change what has been happening for 2000yrs, yes we can,

There are no fairies , just greedy parasites.
$350. (which I presume is per month) seems like a very cheep rent.
 
THERE IS NO LUCK INVOLVED just blind greed,

Borrow money from a moneylender knowing the tenant will be paying most of the bills,
tenant pays the moneylenders interest.
tenant pays-- landlords insurance. rates ,taxes.repairs etc, how can this be fair,

Add to that the rent increases, that force the value of property upwards ensuring the greedy landlords equity in the property could amount to 400% over a short time, where is the justice in this greedy activity,
If it were that easy the would be renter could just buy the property directly.
 
Christ said “forgive them father they know not what they do”

invest wisely. landlord definition----- make sure you get a tenant who has a good job so they can pay for your investment,

Do a Google Search type in" greedy landlord" you will find at least 80.000sites and the stories being told by people thrown out onto the street because a greedy landlord wanted more, where is the social justice in collecting rent/interest…
are any of those “80” sites verified or just whiners complaining that rent went up?
 
Maybe if we actually looked at the data it might not be so obvious. There are many places where wealth comes from, sometimes people become wealthy from hard work, sometimes they have wealthy parents or have connections, sometimes people just get lucky. Now, the real question is: what proportion comes from which source? You want to assume you know something, yet you don’t want to back it up with data?
Here is data: 100% of all of the adults I know who are not poor are that way through hard work.
 
Here is data: 100% of all of the adults I know who are not poor are that way through hard work.
Which of course, is a very bad source of data. When we try to generalize from a convenience sample we often run into trouble because our convenience samples are not representative of the population as a whole.
 
Which of course, is a very bad source of data. When we try to generalize from a convenience sample we often run into trouble because our convenience samples are not representative of the population as a whole.
Wages being the primary source of income seems to be a universal assumption with all of the break outs I have found only list wage and salary income. However I did find this intersting site for the top .01 percent of earners
visualizingeconomics.com/2007/04/16/sources-of-income-for-top-001-percent-excluding-capital-gains/
in that link they say even this top group which would be the most heavily loaded with rental and interest income even have 49% of income coming from wages. Plus 36% for those who start and grow businesses which is a lot of work.
 
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Here is data: 100% of all of the adults I know who are not poor are that way through hard work.
Which of course, is a very bad source of data. When we try to generalize from a convenience sample we often run into trouble because our convenience samples are not representative of the population as a whole.
LOL That is NOT a “generalization from a convenience sample.” That’s the facts of life. You work, you make money. You make money, you eat. You eat, you stay alive. It works 100% of the time for EVERYONE WHO DOES IT.
 
LOL That is NOT a “generalization from a convenience sample.” That’s the facts of life. You work, you make money. You make money, you eat. You eat, you stay alive. It works 100% of the time for EVERYONE WHO DOES IT.
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LOL That is NOT a “generalization from a convenience sample.” That’s the facts of life. You work, you make money. You make money, you eat. You eat, you stay alive. It works 100% of the time for EVERYONE WHO DOES IT.
There were some pretty hard working people in North Korea who still starved to death. But, that was not the original question, the original question was not whether working hard is enough to sustain people. The original question was where do people get the wealth they need to invest in property. The claim was that it all came from hard work. My response was that in addition to hard work there are other sources of wealth. Inheritances, gifts and loans from relatives, borrowing a lot of money and getting lucky, etc. When someone claimed that all wealth comes from hard work, I asked for data to support such a claim and the data that I got was of very poor quality.
 
There were some pretty hard working people in North Korea who still starved to death. But, that was not the original question, the original question was not whether working hard is enough to sustain people. The original question was where do people get the wealth they need to invest in property. The claim was that it all came from hard work. My response was that in addition to hard work there are other sources of wealth. Inheritances, gifts and loans from relatives, borrowing a lot of money and getting lucky, etc. When someone claimed that all wealth comes from hard work, I asked for data to support such a claim and the data that I got was of very poor quality.
Who said ALL? I said most.
 
Who said ALL? I said most.
Even most requires some data to establish that it is true. For example, the best way to be in the top 20% of the income distribution is to be born there. When you go to Ivy league schools the students there are not poor kids who work hard, they are for the most part kids of the upper class. Even a lazy Ivy league graduate will usually do fairly well in the job market.
 
Even most requires some data to establish that it is true. For example, the best way to be in the top 20% of the income distribution is to be born there. When you go to Ivy league schools the students there are not poor kids who work hard, they are for the most part kids of the upper class. Even a lazy Ivy league graduate will usually do fairly well in the job market.
Just because someone has a genetic inclination to be a good worker, does not negate the fact they still have to work.

Also, being a hard worker does not make someone a good worker. A good worker also has to be conciencious, proactive, and willing to take personal responsibility. Any one can be a good worker if they try regardless of how much success their parrents have had or have not had.
 
I know people who earn over $100,000 per year who exhibit none of these characteristics.
So are you paying them? If so, fire them or cut their wages. If someone else is paying them, then the people paying obviously see value in their work.
 
So are you paying them? If so, fire them or cut their wages. If someone else is paying them, then the people paying obviously see value in their work.
Unfortunately, this particular person works for the government, and actually he is valuable to his boss, only because he keeps things quiet. He keeps things quiet by his laziness. For example, I have a guy in my department who doesn’t show up for work when he is supposed to. I tell this lazy bureaucrat that my guy is not showing up for work, and his only response is: I am not fighting that battle.
 
Unfortunately, this particular person works for the government, and actually he is valuable to his boss, only because he keeps things quiet. He keeps things quiet by his laziness. For example, I have a guy in my department who doesn’t show up for work when he is supposed to. I tell this lazy bureaucrat that my guy is not showing up for work, and his only response is: I am not fighting that battle.
HMM, works for the government…The same government you would like to see have control over my medical care???
 
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