Gillette ad furor

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No, it is a term for a certain segment of men, for some reason it is growing in popularity. I don’t understand it, but, it is appealing to some men.
 
TheLittleLady said:
No, it is a term for a certain segment of men, for some reason it is growing in popularity. I don’t understand it, but, it is appealing to some men.
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‘Toxic Masculinity’ is a term being pushed by social justice advocates.
Don’t confuse some men objecting to it with those men liking it.
 
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As Social Justice is a doctrine of the Church, I will proudly pick up that label and wear it with honor.
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There are many types of SJ advocates.
Some throw rocks and fire bombs, wearing all black.
They are not in sync with Church doctrine on Social Justice
 
It happens a lot more than you think.

I myself have been groped and grabbed.

Count yourself lucky if it’s never happened to you.

Don’t even get me started on upskirting.
 
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Fair enough. As for all those who didn’t vote, either they had no opinion, or liked the video, or didn’t like it. Some may not have even realized they could vote, as simple as that is to do. No matter, though. Of those who voted at all, nearly 2/3 voted it down. The video is outrageous. I don’t need to be preached to by Gillette. If their business suffers, maybe they’ll learn some humility.
 
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o matter, though. Of those who voted at all, nearly 2/3 voted it down. The video is outrageous. I don’t need to be preached to by Gillette.
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I found it interesting that the people that responded to the video on Facebook tended to respond in a different way.

On Facebook the video has 9.4 million views. The distribution of those that responded with one of the emojis looks like this:
👍❤️😠😂😲:cry:
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On another note, it’s not the place of women to tell men what men should or should not find offensive.
 
That’s a start. Now you can count up all the posts on all the FB members’ pages, and all the comments on all those posts, and all the responses to those comments, etc. And please don’t forget all the FB groups, special interest pages, etc.
Then, of course, there’s Twitter, etc.
Please do let us know what you find! 😉
 
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On Facebook the video has 9.4 million views. The distribution of those that responded with one of the emojis looks like this:
👍❤️😠😂😲:cry:
100K93K10K1.9K779194
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LOL, I assume you knew Facebook doesn’t have a ‘dislike’ or ‘thumbs down’ button, yet you still present it as valid data.
 
Mona Charen:
There were a couple of undercurrents in the Gillette ad that suggested feminist influence — the term “toxic masculinity” should itself be toxic — but overall the ad is pretty tame, even valuable. I have no idea if it’s the best way to sell razors, but as social commentary, it’s not offensive. “The Best Men Can Be” begins by showing men looking the other way as boys fight, shrugging “boys will be boys.” It shows men laughing at a comedy portraying a lout pantomiming a lunge at a woman’s behind. It shows kids teasing a boy for being a “freak” or a “sissy.” These are followed by more-uplifting images of men breaking up fights, interfering with men who are harassing women, and being loving fathers to daughters. We hear a quote from former NFL star Terry Crews, saying “Men need to hold other men accountable.” These images didn’t strike me as a reproof of masculinity per se but rather as a critique of bullying, boorishness, and sexual misconduct.
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As I’ve written many times, the Me Too movement may conceive of itself as a protest of “traditional masculinity,” but that’s only because memories are short. It’s actually a protest against the libertine culture the sexual revolution ushered in. Some men are behaving really badly — harassing women, bullying each other, and failing in their family responsibilities. Some women are too, though the Me Too movement doesn’t acknowledge that aspect of things. But these behaviors are not “traditional.” They’ve always existed, of course, but they went mainstream with the counterculture, which is now the culture. In any case, everyone, left and right, who values decent behavior should be able to agree that encouraging men to be non-violent, polite, and respectful is not anti-male. It’s just civilized.
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www.nationalreview.com

Gillette’s Ad Is More Conservative Than Critics Think | National Review

The razor company’s newest ad has been savagely received on the right, but its message is more conservative than the critics acknowledge.
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I guess they won’t be, considering the ad never referenced guns at all.
 
This is true. I can’t stop guys from feeling offended over a request to treat women decently. I’ll just discourage my daughter from ever marrying one. Fortunately, I showed her the ad, and she loves it. 😀

I do find is mildly amusing to watch so many macho men get all triggered and snowflakey over a single ad . . .
 
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As I’ve written many times, the Me Too movement may conceive of itself as a protest of “traditional masculinity,” but that’s only because memories are short. It’s actually a protest against the libertine culture the sexual revolution ushered in.
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The ad was confused in clearly identifying it’s target. Yes it targets some norms that flowed out of the sexual revolution but it also referenced Toxic Masculinity, which is normally portrayed to cover a much broader set of traditional male behaviors. With some tweaking, it could have been a great non-controversial PSA against bullying and for respect.
 
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Masculinity can get extremely toxic. The ad shows how.

And yes, there’s such a thing as “toxic femininity.” I see it in women who believe it’s “feminine” and “womanly” to allow their husbands to treat them like dirt.

Gender roles don’t have to be toxic.
 
And what if a man says that if a woman is offended by catcalling, that proves that same woman needs to hear catcalling? Or that she’s just being too hypersensitive to catcalling?
 
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Right. As if the whole “toxic masculinity” crusade by leftist feminists is “a single ad.”
 
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