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qui_est_ce
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Who am I? I’m a father that had no say as to whether my child would be aborted or not. Who are you,or who is anybody for that matter, to decide my child can be killed without my say in the matter?
Gingrich: GOP ‘Incapable Of Competing’ Against Hillary Clinton In 2016
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Ridgerunner
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One would not know whether private and religious agencies “don’t cut it” without trying it. It has been a long, long time since societal aid was voluntary, and yet we see its remnants all around in major cities…structures that put our own shabby institutional structures to shame. Just because government has appropriated so much of individual resources does not mean people wouldn’t use them well if allowed to keep them.
There is “massive flood of funds to assist these mothers…”. It’s huge, and goes on for generation after generation. And yet, what has it really done for anyone other than create sloth, crime and a “perpetual underclass?” Again, it would be instructive to research the charitable birthing and adoption institutions of old. One thing they did not do was create and encourage a permanent dependent class. One thing they did do was encourage non-selfish regard for “unwanted” children.
And if you want to encourage marriage and child-bearing, why not bring the tax deduction up to where it was in Truman’s time? Adjusted for inflation, it would now be about $20,000 per child. But we don’t think we can return to that because the government would not have nearly as much money to maintain a permanent underclass as we do now. And while we’re at it, why demean marriage by calling every sexual relationship “marriage”?
Trains? So the we’re to escape the 1980s by returning to the 1880s when it comes to transportation? Why is that a good thing to do? Should we also ban antibiotics?
And I agree with the poster who said that work is not some “protestant” thing. One could do well to read up on Opus Dei. Work is what we are built to do.
The “burbs” can waste education money every bit as well as can inner city schools, and pretty much do. Can we truly say that money, itself, is the determinant of good vs bad education? I recall the “magnet schools” mandated by a federal judge in the KC area. They absolutely lavished money on inner-city schools; far more per pupil than suburban schools. And it was a dismal failure despite years and years of it.
I don’t know that Scandinavia is a model for anything. They are selling their futures for present ease. Look up their birth rates. Those bespeak no belief in the future, and none in mankind.
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ringil
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And we see the, unfortunate implausibility, with a Pro-Life Party we could both believe in.
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irishpatrick
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Well, I will say that killing the unborn is an evil and horrific practice that MUST end. If we cannot agree with that, we have nothing to build on.
Once upon a time a great many people felt that slavery was an evil and horrific practice. We see now, from the distance of history, that those who fought on the side of keeping slavery legal, were 100% in the wrong and were on the wrong side of morality and history. One day, the same will be said about legal abortion, yet it saddens me to consider how many more innocent lives will be slaughtered before those on the left finally sees the error of their way with this issue (as they finally did with slavery). It is a strange disconnect for a party to say it is the party of the poor and disenfranchised, while touting how strongly it will fight to keep legal the evil practice of abortion (those innocent lives killed are the most disenfranchised humans in history).
Does the USA deserve to exist as a nation if we continue to so-called legally kill innocent unborn by the thousands every single day?
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Catholic1954
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Good Luck with that. Obama is looking to repeal the 22nd amendment and make himself president for life.
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epan
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huh?
I don’t think that is how American politics works. Families try to build political dynasties, like the Kennedy’s, Bush’s… and maybe the Clintons.
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benjammin
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Oh Puh-Leeze. Even Democrats would have a fit. Unless World War 3 happens there is no way he will do that, even if World War 3 occurs. Of course my GOP brethren who tend to be nutters probably think he’s planning it, just like he was born in Kenya and is a Muslim
Honestly, he’s a bad president, but that doesn’t mean you have to completely make him the Antichrist. Carter was a bad president, and he certainly wasn’t the antichrist. In fact he did better out of the presidency
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Jeanne_S
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Why bother to have more than one party if essentially all that separates the two is in name only?.It may take several election cycles to turn the tide to a more conservative mindset.My feeling is that true conservatives need to stand up in solidarity for the sake of our children and grand kids.It’s not too late for them.I really don’t believe that true conservatives are going to put up with this namby pamby approach anymore.Itvdidn’tvwork and to think it will work next time around is insane!
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ProVobis
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Whatever that means. I see him as a realist.
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ProVobis
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The Law of Distribution says you’re right.
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ProVobis
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Being UK-born, a Polish immigrant and a physics major, I don’t quite see it that way, despite the fact that I voted for Nixon.
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Luigi_Daniele
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Doesn’t make it any less true, though.
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ProVobis
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Not only does it not deserve to exist but it will not exist if it aborts itself out of existence.
But this goes without saying.
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Luigi_Daniele
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It needs saying, my friend. A lot.
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LisaA
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I agree the claim that “if abortion is outlawed we will be innundated with babies whose mothers will require welfare” is a total canard. It assumes that a) the majority of women getting abortions are on welfare and b) there will be as many unplanned pregnancies as there are now.
Since I date back to the pre-Roe days, although my state allowed abortion it was not considered the first option as it is now. Due to the national legalization through Roe, the massive growth of abortion providers like Planned Parenthood, and the pushing of abortion in media and the schools, it has become just another method of birth control. It is not ‘safe, legal and rare’ but that bit of baloney has been used to justify what is actually true…it is too easy, too inexpensive and guilt free to get an abortion. So the numbers have increased dramatically since Roe although at the same time, better methods of birth control have also occurred (and no I am not pushing ABC just demonstrating the hypocrisy of the abortion promoters).
Remember the baloney about “this way all children will be wanted children” and “child abuse will disappear” blather of the past used to justify abortion? Did it occur to anyone that if we can carelessly kill unborn babies, why would those an hour older who made it out of the birth canal be suddenly deemed precious treasures? Heartlessness toward the helpless and weak, whether we are talking about abortion, abuse of children, even abuse of animals soon manifests itself in other pathologies.
Unfortunately the Democrat party has somehow erroneously been labeled the party of the poor and disenfranchised when it has been the party pushing legalized murder through abortion and euthanasia.
The consistent life ethic of the Church, her concepts of both solidarity AND subsidiarity are a truly compassionate approach to problems of society. I do think this kind of message plays well in many groups, not just with the grumpy old white males…
As to potential candidates, I’m a real fan of Mark Rubio and not because he’s Hispanic but because he is a fantastic communicator, he’s young, energetic and has the ability to appeal to both hearts and minds. Ryan is in the same category as Rubio although he’s not quite as dynamic. I have high hopes for them although virtually no faith in the ability of the American people after what they did to our country with the election of Obama. All I can say about that man is God help us.
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ProVobis
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We could have used more of that talk in the 60’s and 70’s when it might have made a difference.
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ProVobis
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What’s true is it was Reagan, Eisenhower, Johnson, and Nixon who brought about all this climate of pro-abortion in the first place. Yes, I know it was 40 years ago but the truth is the truth.Doesn’t make it any less true, though.
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Luigi_Daniele
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Reagan certainly did as governor. He regretted his actions and said so many times for the rest of his life.
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LisaA
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No it was the Supreme Court and the ridiculous “pnumbra” argument. Have you ever read Roe? It is filled with strange concepts about old wives’ tales like “quickening” as the time life begins. Also realize that Roe in allowing abortion, focused on the theory that these abortions would be done very early on in the pregnancy. Further remember that science and the knowledge of life in the womb was primative as compared to our current knowledge and technology.
Admittedly Reagan, Nixon etc did not work to overturn these laws but it was a different time when abortion was no simply another method of birth control. Do you really think that had anyone forseen Partial Birth Abortions or the MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of abortions that would take place post Roe, that it would have been decided the same way? SCOTUS blew it in more ways than one. Put the blame where it belongs.
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ProVobis
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Yeh, he wrote a money-selling book and finagled pro-life money for his side. Nancy was admittedly pro-choice so I don’t see anything inspiring about his “change of heart” presidency.
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