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estesbob said:
I seriously doubt that you’re going to find many Republicans, thoughtful or otherwise, watching MSNBC. I am sure of the half-dozen or so people who actually watch Morning Joe that some of them consider theou mselves thoughtful Republicans but they most certainly not speak. for the rest of us
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I think you might be surprised, judging from his guests. Personally, I’m not defending him, rather passing along what he and his guests were discussing.
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
Whenever I listen to Gingrich, he seems to me to be an ignorant man’s idea of an educated man. He himself may be quite clever, but the persona he has taken on does not seem to have the full weight of his intellectual honesty behind it.
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I wish I could describe the irony of this post. 🙂
 
rlg94086 said:
:rotfl: Thanks for the morning chuckle. Well done. 👍 :clapping:
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I hope you realize that by claiming the post is ironic, you are claiming that my post is intended to sound educated to an ignorant audience, i.e. you guys.
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
Whenever I listen to Gingrich, he seems to me to be an ignorant man’s idea of an educated man. He himself may be quite clever, but the persona he has taken on does not seem to have the full weight of his intellectual honesty behind it.
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TheTrueCentrist said:
I hope you realize that by claiming the post is ironic, you are claiming that my post is intended to sound educated to an ignorant audience, i.e. you guys.
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Nope. I believe the irony he was pointing out was that of someone who thinks he’s quite clever but has a persona without the “full weight of his intellectual honesty behind it” claiming the same of someone else.

Similarly, he was pointing out that there may be ignorant people out there who think you are an educated man.

Perhaps there was some truth in his humor?
 
I don’t get it! Why would ANYONE vote for that nutcase. Newt Gingrich represents all that is WORST in politicians. On his best days he rates as an imbecile. The only reason that this loser has crawled out from under his rock is that the PTB are terrified that Ron Paul could get the nomination and undo all the corruption that has been foisted on the American people by the last 5 or so presidents.
 
Pro_Bono said:
I think you might be surprised, judging from his guests. Personally, I’m not defending him, rather passing along what he and his guests were discussing.
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To be honest I don’t even know who he is-I have never watched him, heardhim speak or read anything he has written. I googled morning Joe and saw it was a show on MSNBC and found it rather humorous that anybody would connect the term " thoughtful Republican" with somebody who has a show on MSNBC.
 
Julianna said:
:okpeople:News Flash! If you are running for public office in the age of high tech, everything you have ever done will sooner or later be made public. Whether it’s as mild as smoking a joint at age 16 under the bleachers or as serious as infidelity (one of my pet peeves), money scams, you will be FOUND OUT. :onpatrol:Buy a clue.🤷
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Ok, well, why isn’t the race a 2 man race between Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum then?
Rick Santorum doesn’t have any personal baggage to my knowledge. And, in the high tech age we use the term “personal baggage”, but the Biblical term for it would be whether or not someone is “blameless” or not. As it talks about Priests and Deacons being blameless in 1 Timothy 3.

I just wanted to say that, because irregardless of my support for Newt Gingrich. If you asked me which candidate I personally identified with the most it would be Rick Santorum. The man is a staunch and devout CRADLE Catholic, who to all my knowledge is just as blameless in his personal life as Mitt Romney is. In fact, I think on a Piers Morgan interview he had two situations in his life where he and his wife were told they should get an abortion. One of the children was born stillborn, and the other one was born and is alive to this day. So, just like the Palin family, the Santorums have also shown that they don’t just talk the pro-life talk, they walk the pro-life walk.

But, look where that got him… nowhere. It doesn’t matter if a politican is an honest and decent man. Most people in America aren’t honest and decent people. Am I wrong? More Americans can relate with Newt Gingrich’s divorces than with Mitt Romney or Rick Santorum being married only to one woman (correct me if I’m wrong).

I close my general complaints with two quotes from the Founding Fathers:
  1. “Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society” - George Washington.
  2. “Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people” -John Adams.
Our first and second Presidents respectively. So there you are, being blameless does not give you political traction. Look at Rick Santorum. And, for the general reasons described in this post I myself a while ago forswore that I would ever get involved in politics.
 
The RNC wants Gingrich to be attacked but wants hands-off Obama.

lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=654117

[Are these the same people who sandbagged McCain and Palin?]

This is a blog, so it can’t be used as the justification for its own thread:

news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/yahoo-exclusive-republicans-disclose-private-call-too-dangerous-175828684.html

Yahoo apparently got on the conference call by “mistake”. So, it became a Yahool exclusive:

excerpt:

Republicans on a private Republican National Committee conference call with allies warned Tuesday that party surrogates should refrain from personal attacks against President Barack Obama, because such a strategy is too hazardous for the GOP.
“We’re hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks” personally against President Obama, Nicholas Thompson, the vice president of Tarrance Group, a Republican polling firm, said on the call. “There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.”

Recent polling data indicates that while the president still suffers significantly low job approval ratings, voters still give “high approval” to Obama personally, Thompson said.
Voters “don’t think he’s an evil man who’s out to change the United States” for the worse–even though many of the same survey respondents agree that his policies have harmed the country, Thompson said. The upshot, Thompson stressed, is that Republicans should “exercise some caution” when talking about the president personally.

On the call–which Yahoo News was invited to attend because of a mistake by someone on the staff of the Republican National Committee–Ari Fleischer, the former press secretary for George W. Bush, encouraged Republicans to turn around the Democratic attacks lobbed at the GOP presidential candidates (Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, for starters) for “flip-flopping.”

“I don’t like playing defense,” Fleischer said. He suggested the listeners to Tuesday’s call label the president as a flip-flopper on the following issues: opposing tax increases for those making under $250,000; opposing the Bush tax cuts; opposing raising the debt limit; and opposing a health care mandate.

“When it comes to flip flopping, Barack Obama is the king of flip flopping,” Fleischer said. “You can offer that to anybody,” he suggested.

Thompson noted that Obama may be boxed in by similarly strong personal approval numbers for Republican lawmakers as he ponders attacking the GOP House majority during the 2012 campaign.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
The RNC wants Gingrich to be attacked but wants hands-off Obama.

lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=654117

[Are these the same people who sandbagged McCain and Palin?]

This is a blog, so it can’t be used as the justification for its own thread:

news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/yahoo-exclusive-republicans-disclose-private-call-too-dangerous-175828684.html

Yahoo apparently got on the conference call by “mistake”. So, it became a Yahool exclusive:

excerpt:

Republicans on a private Republican National Committee conference call with allies warned Tuesday that party surrogates should refrain from personal attacks against President Barack Obama, because such a strategy is too hazardous for the GOP.
“We’re hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks” personally against President Obama, Nicholas Thompson, the vice president of Tarrance Group, a Republican polling firm, said on the call. “There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.”

Recent polling data indicates that while the president still suffers significantly low job approval ratings, voters still give “high approval” to Obama personally, Thompson said.
Voters “don’t think he’s an evil man who’s out to change the United States” for the worse–even though many of the same survey respondents agree that his policies have harmed the country, Thompson said. The upshot, Thompson stressed, is that Republicans should “exercise some caution” when talking about the president personally.

On the call–which Yahoo News was invited to attend because of a mistake by someone on the staff of the Republican National Committee–Ari Fleischer, the former press secretary for George W. Bush, encouraged Republicans to turn around the Democratic attacks lobbed at the GOP presidential candidates (Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, for starters) for “flip-flopping.”

“I don’t like playing defense,” Fleischer said. He suggested the listeners to Tuesday’s call label the president as a flip-flopper on the following issues: opposing tax increases for those making under $250,000; opposing the Bush tax cuts; opposing raising the debt limit; and opposing a health care mandate.

“When it comes to flip flopping, Barack Obama is the king of flip flopping,” Fleischer said. “You can offer that to anybody,” he suggested.

Thompson noted that Obama may be boxed in by similarly strong personal approval numbers for Republican lawmakers as he ponders attacking the GOP House majority during the 2012 campaign.
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:confused: I guess I’m missing the part where it says or implies that “the RNC wants Gingrich to be attacked.” 🤷
 
Monte_RCMS said:
The RNC wants Gingrich to be attacked but wants hands-off Obama.

lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=654117

[Are these the same people who sandbagged McCain and Palin?]

This is a blog, so it can’t be used as the justification for its own thread:

news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/yahoo-exclusive-republicans-disclose-private-call-too-dangerous-175828684.html

Yahoo apparently got on the conference call by “mistake”. So, it became a Yahool exclusive:

excerpt:

Republicans on a private Republican National Committee conference call with allies warned Tuesday that party surrogates should refrain from personal attacks against President Barack Obama, because such a strategy is too hazardous for the GOP.
“We’re hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks” personally against President Obama, Nicholas Thompson, the vice president of Tarrance Group, a Republican polling firm, said on the call. “There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.”

Recent polling data indicates that while the president still suffers significantly low job approval ratings, voters still give “high approval” to Obama personally, Thompson said.
Voters “don’t think he’s an evil man who’s out to change the United States” for the worse–even though many of the same survey respondents agree that his policies have harmed the country, Thompson said. The upshot, Thompson stressed, is that Republicans should “exercise some caution” when talking about the president personally.

On the call–which Yahoo News was invited to attend because of a mistake by someone on the staff of the Republican National Committee–Ari Fleischer, the former press secretary for George W. Bush, encouraged Republicans to turn around the Democratic attacks lobbed at the GOP presidential candidates (Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, for starters) for “flip-flopping.”

“I don’t like playing defense,” Fleischer said. He suggested the listeners to Tuesday’s call label the president as a flip-flopper on the following issues: opposing tax increases for those making under $250,000; opposing the Bush tax cuts; opposing raising the debt limit; and opposing a health care mandate.

“When it comes to flip flopping, Barack Obama is the king of flip flopping,” Fleischer said. “You can offer that to anybody,” he suggested.

Thompson noted that Obama may be boxed in by similarly strong personal approval numbers for Republican lawmakers as he ponders attacking the GOP House majority during the 2012 campaign.
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We’ll have to listen to hear these talking points. If that’s what the pundits start saying we’ll know from whom they are getting their marching orders.
 
estesbob said:
To be honest I don’t even know who he is-I have never watched him, heardhim speak or read anything he has written. I googled morning Joe and saw it was a show on MSNBC and found it rather humorous that anybody would connect the term " thoughtful Republican" with somebody who has a show on MSNBC.
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You are not missing anything. I like to watch political shows and there’s nothing on that early. I usually talk back to the TV a few times and then turn on the radio. Joe brings up the fact that he was a congressman just about every day. I think he was one term.
 
Pro_Bono said:
You are not missing anything. I like to watch political shows and there’s nothing on that early. I usually talk back to the TV a few times and then turn on the radio. Joe brings up the fact that he was a congressman just about every day. I think he was one term.
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I agree you’re not missing anything by not watching. But Joe was a Republican congressman representing a very conservative NW FL panhandle district for 3 full terms, resigning during his 4th term. I believe his reason was to spend more time with his family. He served with the now surging Gingrich.
 
CMatt25 said:
Joe was a Republican congressman representing a very conservative NW FL panhandle district for 3 full terms, resigning during his 4th term. I believe his reason was to spend more time with his family. He served with the now surging Gingrich.
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Thanks, I think he had a bit of scandal to contend with also. He left office to 'spend more time with his family".
 
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