Given Rick Santorum’s lengthly history of supporting Planned Parenthood, radical pro-abortion candidates and voting several times to fund abortion legislation in his state, my question is why Catholics would consider voting for this guy at all?
NARL disagrees with you:
I know that Gingrich willl claim/plead that he is now a grandfather and 'I have reformed'. but the way he has conducted himself during the debates shows that he still is capable of obscuring the issue by throwing hand grenades, especially at the media. A clever, wily debater, true. A man capable of providing ethical leadership to our nation and setting a decent example to our youth, no!
I would like to vote for a Republican, but will NEVER vote for Gingrich. I have come to believe that he suffers from some sort of delusionary self-image that includes serious personal instability.
God bless and guide America!Ron Paul’s devotion to his interpretation of the Constitution would endanger the unborn under a Paul Presidency. He ardently believes that the Fed’s have no place in ensuring that the right to life for the unborn. If a state like California voted to permit unresricted abortion then he would say their blood be upon their hands like Pontius Pilate.
If Roe were overturned, then it would be a states’ rights issue, and yes, California could have unrestricted abortion, just as Oklahoma and others could ban it entirely. What’s the problem with getting the Feds out of it?
Bill Clintons well documented reputation was swept under the carpet by the media during his primary debates/ elections.
But if Gingrich is repentant like he seems to be, and has been forgiven, then I don’t think his past mistakes should be held against him.
not sure about that. If a bank robber went to confession and was absolved, forgiven by God, ought his mistake be held against him and might the state still have reason to incarcerate the fellow?
I’m sure NARAL would have approved of Mr. Santorum’s record of supporting tax funds being allocated towards Planned Parenthood. Their problem is, presumably, that he hasn’t consistently voted in such a manner.
Voting “pro-choice” 1 time out of 73 is enough for him to lose my vote. One may NEVER do an evil to bring about a “good” and Mr. Santorum apparently thinks that it is OK to vote pro-choice if there is some greater “good” at stake.
Why can’t Newt Gingrich go forward in good faith? Catholics should rejoice over his conversion. The rest is up to his conscience and God.
So you are not voting in this election?
I agree. I’m glad he became a Catholic, but that doesn’t wash away his record. We can’t be blind to the things he’s done.
If 50 % of all abortions could be totally outlawed tomorrow, you’d oppose the politicians who voted for that just because they didn’t do 100%? Hmmm.
That’s not a comparable example. Rick Santorum voted for a spending bill that authorized tax dollars to be allocated to Planned Parenthood as part of a larger economic spending plan. He did not vote for a bill that would have outlawed 50% of abortions.
I am not voting for Rick Santorum in this election and I was making an argument for why I don’t believe his voting record is one that Catholics should support.
I look at it more from a management hiring process. I’m a manager at a large auto dealership. We can hire people who have a conviction on their record, but it depends on the nature of their conviction. Past drug arrest, but they’ve cleaned up their act? Maybe. Past conviction for fraud? Probably not. Past convicts may falter again, but we are more concerned about the danger to the company and our customers than the fact that they’ve been convicted.
This is basically how I see it as well. Forgiveness and trust are two different things. The former can be instantaneous, but the latter takes time to build (or rebuild). In the above example, the assumption that God has forgiven their offense does not mean that I should trust them with a position of responsibility and authority. It boils down to how their offense relates to the current situation, and whether they can be trusted, based on past performance and whatever steps they’ve taken to improve themselves.
Well, this isn’t a Romney thread, but I have yet to be shown where he flip-flopped. He flipped (i.e. became more pro-life). This is a good thing. He has a good record to back it up, as explained by the Massachusetts Right to Life folks.