Girl Scouts under scrutiny from Catholic bishops

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“Girl Scouts USA’s social agenda under scrutiny from Catholic Bishops”

(I should at least suggest a non-double-entendre alternative headline.)

PS: radical or ultra-radical could be inserted for clarity. 🙂
 
I for one am glad they are examining the GSA. There are so many rumors about this PP connection, I look forward to what they say.

I wonder if the title was intentional.
 
pnewton said:
I for one am glad they are examining the GSA. There are so many rumors about this PP connection, I look forward to what they say.
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I agree. My 12yo is in Girl Scouts, and we haven’t seen anything contrary to Church teaching, but I’ve heard the same rumors. If there is something more to worry about, I would like to know before my girl continues through Junior High and High School.
 
Jeffrey said:
The Girl Scouts give to planned parenthood. Really planned murder.
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Please provide a source. I am not trying to be obtuse, but I have never seen this often repeated rumor backed up with any evidence.
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1201669.htm
In response GSUSA has strongly stated it “does not have a relationship or partnership with Planned Parenthood and does not plan to create one”
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I think it is good this is getting attention, but I think the jury is still out on any formal link. I think some of the Girl Scout national leadership needs to break any informal ties they have to PP and it is good the Bishops’ Committee is looking into it.
 
The_Rock said:
Please provide a source. I am not trying to be obtuse, but I have never seen this often repeated rumor backed up with any evidence.
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This thread came up before. You will find plenty of blog links attacking the girl scouts, but that is the nature of the internet. You can also go to the GSA website and find that they say there is no relationship with PP. There are internet sites for both sides.
Q: Does GSUSA have a relationship with Planned Parenthood?
**A: **No, Girl Scouts of the USA does not have a relationship or partnership with Planned Parenthood.
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girlscouts.org/program/gs_central/mpmf/faqs.asp

girlscouts.org/news/news_releases/2012/ewtn_series.asp

I think what one will find is that Girl Scouts locally will be a reflection of the parents that are involved.
 
US Catholic Bishops: A day late and a dollar short. What else is new.

I guess I should be thankful that they are finally looking into this matter.
 
I am the Girl Scout leader for my daughter’s troop. I don’t teach them anything anti or non-Catholic. If anything, I bring my values to the group (but not overly so since not all the girls in the troop are Christian, let alone Catholic).

So far this year we’ve earned badges for cooking, sports (playing fair it’s called), home science (making ice cream, doing experiments with static electricity, etc.), bugs, dancing, and painting. We had a policeman stop by and talk to the girls about safety and stranger danger, etc. We are going horseback riding as a troop this summer. I planned all of this.

The Girl Scouts doesn’t tell me to teach anything… I have guidelines and rules (but it’s mostly stuff you’d see anywhere–like not discriminating because of race, two adults should be with the girls at all times, certain first aid training or camping training is needed for field trips, etc). And all the money the parents donate to the troop goes to the troop–I know since I am the one that handles the finances.

My take on it is it’s a secular organization and should stay that way. I don’t see anything anti-Catholic and the GSUSA denies involvement with Planned Parenthood (and I believe in innocent until proven guilty). My guess is, a lot of the association with Planned Parenthood stems from individual troops associating with them (since we have pretty much freedom to plan our meetings and such). My understanding is that basically, some troops independently used Planned Parenthood’s sex education program and that started this whole mess.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
I think its rather obvious that it would not live up to the standards of the Bishops. Conducting an inquiry into whether or not a non-Catholic organization is Catholic enough seems to be a farcical endeavor to me.
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Except they are sponsored by 100s of Parishes. The question is should the Church have any affiliation with this organization-- a valid concern for the magestrium
 
estesbob said:
Except they are sponsored by 100s of Parishes. The question is should the Church have any affiliation with this organization-- a valid concern for the magestrium
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Of course, it’s up to the Bishops, but I would think that they would want to keep the GS in the parishes. Like I said, I have total control over what the girls in my troop do and what we spend money on. I would think a Parish supporting a troop could set up some rules and guidance–especially if the leaders, families, and the girls are all Catholic. I would suspect that removing them from the Parishes would mean the Church would have less influence. Sure, some girls would quit Scouts, but others would just join troops at other Churches or schools–out of the reach of Catholic guidance.
 
estesbob said:
Except they are sponsored by 100s of Parishes. The question is should the Church have any affiliation with this organization-- a valid concern for the magestrium
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Yes. Our Catholic girls should be under the wing of the Church as Scouts. Catholic women guiding that youth are the best antidote against secular influence in the organization. My daughter was a Girl Scout at St. Stan’s in Brooklyn, and it was a fine, fine experience for her - though a fattening one for me after so many cookies. 😃
 
mellowcalico said:
My take on it is it’s a secular organization and should stay that way. I don’t see anything anti-Catholic and the GSUSA denies involvement with Planned Parenthood (and I believe in innocent until proven guilty). My guess is, a lot of the association with Planned Parenthood stems from individual troops associating with them (since we have pretty much freedom to plan our meetings and such). My understanding is that basically, some troops independently used Planned Parenthood’s sex education program and that started this whole mess.
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That’s not why I quit as a leader or why my daughter is no longer a GS. Its what is happening at the national level with the CEO and her affiliations with pro-abortion speakers and organizations. I could no longer justify being a part of an organization that continues to form professional relationships with the abortion industry. I could no longer turn a blind eye to what is happening by saying its not happening on the local level. I no longer wanted to be a part of their food chain if they were going to continue the associations with so many troubling pro-choice organizations and professionals.
 
PatriceA said:
That’s not why I quit as a leader or why my daughter is no longer a GS. Its what is happening at the national level with the CEO and her affiliations with pro-abortion speakers and organizations. I could no longer justify being a part of an organization that continues to form professional relationships with the abortion industry. I could no longer turn a blind eye to what is happening by saying its not happening on the local level. I no longer wanted to be a part of their food chain if they were going to continue the associations with so many troubling pro-choice organizations and professionals.
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Both sides spoken for - the ones against them like yourself, and those who are for them, like me and apparently Mellow cat and possibly EstesBob. 🙂
 
pnewton said:
This thread came up before. You will find plenty of blog links attacking the girl scouts, but that is the nature of the internet. You can also go to the GSA website and find that they say there is no relationship with PP.
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When the CEO of GSUSA goes on national television and openly admits to God and the whole world that they have partnered with PP to bring sex education to young girls, I don’t know what further proof you would want. Would you like me to post the link…again?
 
Tigg said:
When the CEO of GSUSA goes on national television and openly admits to God and the whole world that they have partnered with PP to bring sex education to young girls, I don’t know what further proof you would want. Would you like me to post the link…again?
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If it doesn’t affect what the Local Councils, especially the Catholic ones, are doing, let her shoot her mouth off. My daughter benefited from the organization even if, for all I know, the president of the Girls Scouts was a sleep-around. 🤷
 
mellowcalico said:
Of course, it’s up to the Bishops, but I would think that they would want to keep the GS in the parishes. Like I said, I have total control over what the girls in my troop do and what we spend money on. I would think a Parish supporting a troop could set up some rules and guidance–especially if the leaders, families, and the girls are all Catholic. I would suspect that removing them from the Parishes would mean the Church would have less influence. Sure, some girls would quit Scouts, but others would just join troops at other Churches or schools–out of the reach of Catholic guidance.
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Well, I certainly wouldn’t want my daughter out of reach of Catholic guidance and you fail to address the fact that the girls belong to a national organization and it is that level that is the voice and image of the entire organization. I’d say their principles are pretty clear being as they invited a pro-abortion speaker to their natioanl convention the end of last year. I have that link as well if you care to read for yourself.

And I heard from another mother that 30% of cookie sales do not stay within the local community. I’d really like to find out if this is factual. I will not go to their website for obvious reasons - I don’t trust them.
 
Several years ago, I moved my girls into an American Heritiage Girls Troop.

They are modeled on, and affiliated with the BSA.

I just got fed up with all the pro-abort speakers being asked to speak at the National Convention, and the new Journey books, with their positive portrayals of pro-abort women, a positive review of the anti-Catholic play “Simply Maria” etc… pretty much confirmed my decision.

I guess what is driving this current issue is that NFCYM and Girl Scouts reached an agreement to get the books reprinted, remove the referencs to the anti-Catholic play and the links to Planned Parenthood sponsored websites out of the Journey books. Problem solved, right?

And then the GSUSA went an puttled that stunt with the Marie Clare. So the GSUSA saw no problem in posting on their CEO’s blog site that went straight to the Marie Clare homepage (effectively Cosmo for teens). Girls got treated to articles on such topics as how to arrange a Menage a Trois, and how " anal is the new oral." :eek:

I would much rather have my girls is a fully Christian, fully pro-life organization. GSUSA is not it.
 
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