I did not say **Godless **Evolution.
Look at that face, How can some one say that God doesn’t exist?
Well, if Richard is saying that God is not needed to explain the physical mechanism by which things evolve, then he is correct. If he is arguing, however, that evolution is a sufficient explanation for the teleological order that is evident in the universe and biological systems in particular, then he is obviously mistaken.I did not say **Godless **Evolution.
I said godless evolution. I was obviously referring to the notion of atheist evolutionists such as Richard Dawkins that evolution does not require a god to explain anything.
That view is not only outdated; it is doomed to be flushed down the toilet of history.
Genesis 2: 15-17 is evidence that Adam knew what death was. Adam was not as dumb as some CAF participants proclaim.
Since God created everything, everything needs God to explain it.
The “existence” of physical processes in general requires God as an explanation. But the interaction of physical objects does not require God as an explanation. For example we know how rainbows are formed. That’s a physical process. We do not need to say that God is the direct cause by which a rainbow is formed. Rainbows are caused by secondary natural causes.
It is interesting you picked a rainbow given that it is an illusion requiring an observer, who sees something or constructs some mechanism that will record something that is not there. Yes, something physical is going on, but the human mind causes the rainbow.
Its irrelevant. Natural causes exist and there is no point invoking God as the cause if a natural cause is possible.
I would classify the mind is a natural phenomenon as well, but it is a manifestation of mankind’s being a spirit-body unity which is relational and, as such, an image of the Source of its existence. If one wants to remain superficial and just talk about droplets of water and light, don’t invoke rainbows.
Indeed, only God is “supernatural”.
The evolution of the eye should be random.
There is a huge difference in your example of ‘random’. Your 52 cards have already been made, blind evolution would have to randomly manufacture the 1829 steps before they can be selected. An intelligent person would have to shuffle the cards, and keep score of the ten of hearts selected.
Change happens when there is pressure to change, like the examples you gave of climate change, or new chemicals in the environment. This would need to happen roughly 1829 times.
Every time I have read the paper, it just confirms the need for God
That works for me.
Random mutation does not pick out the same card ten times, it would need to pick out all 52 cards in some kind of an order. The better example might be to write down on paper; all the cards in a random order. Then shuffle and deal the cards, what are the odds of all the cards being dealt to match the written list?
What you post is an indication that you don’t understand the basics of evolution. To do what you suggested is easy to calculate. Pick a random sequence of cards and if you want to know the odds of a specific order being selected, it’s factorial 52. Written as 52! It’s a reasonably large number:
Now you are nitpicking.
Now you are nitpicking.
I didn’t say God is the direct cause of rainbows.
However, God is the direct cause of the universe. The principle of evolution could not have come into existence without God having created a universe in which evolution was possible. We know God could have created a universe in which it was not possible. So the godless evolution of which I spoke earlier still holds … it is meaningless and downright dumb.
Evolution means progressive development. There is no obvious reason why it need have occurred at all. There could have been eternal chaos in which no form of order ever appeared. Something must have occurred to initiate the process because there are countless possibilities of inanimate existence as opposed to the very strict limitations of a single living cell, let alone its transformation into a rational being! It would be the greatest miracle one can imagine - performed by a mindless Goddess, Chance, who doesn’t know what she is doing nor ever will…Note to all you deeply serious participants on this thread.
And apparently, the basic rule of the Science of Human Evolution.
It is interesting that when the word supernatural is introduced, it is hard to find someone who understands the approach of the Catholic Church.
Verily, it can be difficult to teach old dogs new tricks.