Glenn Beck’s Wife Attacked in NYC Park

[Beau_Ouiville]

I am talking about the trend to violence and intrusive methods used to support leftist causes.

I remember when a 68 year old grandmother on a book-signing tour was spat on in the face and conservatives backed the move. I’m against personal violence – your right to protest stops at the tip of my nose.

So why was it ok to spit on Jane Fonda?

Leftists back violence? Like bombings and shootings of protesters at abortion clinics? Or is it the ‘pro-life’ folks doing that?

 

[Aquinas62]

I remember when a 68 year old grandmother on a book-signing tour was spat on in the face and conservatives backed the move. I’m against personal violence – your right to protest stops at the tip of my nose.

So why was it ok to spit on Jane Fonda?

Leftists back violence? Like bombings and shootings of protesters at abortion clinics? Or is it the ‘pro-life’ folks doing that?

I won’t defend that behavior, I do understand the sentiment though.

The rumors I have heard about Jane Fonda, I have no comment on, as I don’t know the facts. I do know many fellow veterans who despise her for her role in the anti war movement

I ask you one thing… do you think those people convicted of A.C violence will be offered college teaching positions at prestigious universities?
Will they also be asked to ghost write books for politicians and launch political careers in their living rooms such as old ex Weathermen have?

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Hanoi Jane was filmed smiling and laughing as she sat at the controls of an anti-aircraft gun in Hanoi that was aimed at Americans.She is a traitoress who should have been tried for her crimes.
When I was acting in the 1992 film “Gettysburg” originally called "Killer Angels"most of the men I was with were Viet Nam vets.
One in particular was a pilot who had to mine Haiphong harbor.Every sortie he flew he did not expect to live through and to see this traitoress surrounded by her ladies in waiting while visiting her then husband Ted Turner on the set(he financed it and played a small part)caused him to burst into tears of rage.In solidarity a group about 200(mostly veterans) of us turned our backs to her with folded arms and stood in complete silence and would not resume filming until she was removed from the set.
Much more effective than spitting in someones face.The aid and comfort not to mention propaganda victory this leftist chameleon gave to the enemy was much more violent than spitting in someones face which is not only rude but assaultive.Her “spitter” should have received a fine-she should have received twenty years.

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Indeed. There was recently a right-wing militia group caught by the police that was I believe active in my own state (Ohio). There are of course Marxist and anarchist groups that occasionally wreak havoc. By and large. I think extremists have more in common with each other than either do with relatively moderate people on the left or the right.

Some may, if they choose to, see some rowdy New Yorkers spilling wine on Glenn Beck’s wife as an indicator of a trend leading to the next Great Purge, others may see the infalmmatory gun rhetoric in the Tea Party as an indicator of the next great fascist revolution. Personally, I think the right and left wings tend to rise and fall together, and the citizenry should vigilant against them both. When the fasists and communists were warring in the streets of Berlin, it was the centrists who made the stand to keep order in society. To no avail in the end of course.

These are not conservatives-they are maniac nutbar anarchists who believe that governments should not have the right to tax or license people at all.This is moral equivalency of the worst sort.It would be like me comparing Beria to Pelosi.Give your head a shake.

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Does anyone know if George Soros was somehow involved, or perhaps these were Woodrow Wilson supporters?!

Why bring up Soros another War Criminal?

 

[Lujack]

Why bring up Soros another War Criminal?

Are you buying into Glenn Beck’s ridiculous slander that Soros, a Jewish 14 year old in Nazi occupied Budapest, was a war criminal?

Also, you can make many claims against Jane Fonda, but “war criminal” is not one of them; “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”…maybe. War crimes? No.

 

[Raskolnikov]

These are not conservatives-they are maniac nutbar anarchists who believe that governments should not have the right to tax or license people at all.This is moral equivalency of the worst sort.It would be like me comparing Beria to Pelosi.Give your head a shake.

Moral equivalency between right-wing militia groups plotting violent crimes and liberals pouring wine on Mrs. Beck? No, I wouldn’t think of it.

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Moral equivalency between right-wing militia groups plotting violent crimes and liberals pouring wine on Mrs. Beck? No, I wouldn’t think of it.

These are not right wing conservatives they are enemies of the State.Quit characterizing these people as anything but seriously deranged anarchists and the pinkos have their fair share of those.I saw them in action at the G20 summit in Toronto-strangely many arrested were Americans.Keep them at home willya?

Jane Fonda is as much a war criminal as Tokyo Rose(pardoned) and Lord Haw-Haw(hanged).
Soros IS a war criminal as well-he profited from dead Jews.

The Ottawa Sun‘s Ezra Levant, quoted by Kimball, puts it succinctly:

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore [his father] hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

Well, okay, you’re thinking — he was fourteen. Give the guy a break. And I must admit that I — a secular Jew like Soros — have occasionally speculated about how I would have behaved in similar circumstances. And, although in my fantasy I might be a noble resistance fighter, laying my life on the line against fascism the way Primo Levi and others have described it, I certainly have no way of knowing. I might have been a sleazy collaborator myself. But I do know this: if I had done something like that just to survive, it would have haunted me the rest of my days.

And here’s the really creepy part: not so George Soros. In a surprisingly overlooked interview with 60 Minutes‘ Steve Kroft, Soros denied guilt or second thoughts about his World War II activities.

From Levant again:

How does Soros feel about what he did as a teenager? Has it kept him up at night?

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.

“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

Somebody else would have done it. Sound familiar? It’s just the kind of excuse you might use when devaluing the British pound. A psychoanalyst might call it “splitting,” taking a part of your personality and splitting it off, as if there were two disconnected parts of you — the monster and the good citizen. The good citizen provides a mask, a disguise for the monster to do his work.

Am I calling Soros a disturbed person? In probability, yes. A man with two sides who is all the more dangerous for having both.

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[Pax_et_Bonum]

Moral hollowness at work
Billionaire George Soros has made a living wrecking the lives of others. Now he wants to mess with Canadians

By Ezra Levant,
QMI Agency
September 4, 2010

George Schwartz was born in Hungary in 1930 — not the luckiest time and place to be born a Jew.

George’s father Theodore tried to change the family’s fortunes by changing their name to something less Jewish-sounding. It didn’t help. And soon war came.

When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

George moved to London after the war and then to New York, where he became a stockbroker. He’s rich now. Forbes magazine says he’s the 35th richest man in the world. Maybe you’ve heard of him. He goes by the name his father invented: George Soros.

How does Soros feel about what he did as a teenager? Has it kept him up at night?

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.

“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

A Nazi would steal the Jews’ property anyways. So why not him?

That moral hollowness has shaped Soros’ life. He’s a rabid critic of capitalism, but in 1992 when he saw a chance, he speculated against the British pound, causing it to crash, devastating retirement savings for millions of Britons. Soros pocketed $1.1 billion for himself. If he didn’t do it, someone else would, right?

In 2002, Soros was convicted of insider trading in France, and fined millions of dollars. He admitted buying the shares, but denied it was a crime.

Last year, when he made $3.3 billion off the banking collapse, he called the world’s financial crisis “the culmination of my life’s work.”

This is a man who boasted he offered to help his mother commit suicide. Apparently he didn’t see enough death in Hungary.

Soros is a sociopath. But he’s a sociopath with $14 billion, and he likes to spend it on politics.

Moral hollowness at work
Billionaire George Soros has made a living wrecking the lives of others. Now he wants to mess with Canadians

By Ezra Levant,
QMI Agency
September 4, 2010

George Schwartz was born in Hungary in 1930 — not the luckiest time and place to be born a Jew.

George’s father Theodore tried to change the family’s fortunes by changing their name to something less Jewish-sounding. It didn’t help. And soon war came.

When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

bin/forum/BlahTheodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

Cont.

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

George moved to London after the war and then to New York, where he became a stockbroker. He’s rich now. Forbes magazine says he’s the 35th richest man in the world. Maybe you’ve heard of him. He goes by the name his father invented: George Soros.

How does Soros feel about what he did as a teenager? Has it kept him up at night?

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.

“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

A Nazi would steal the Jews’ property anyways. So why not him?

That moral hollowness has shaped Soros’ life. He’s a rabid critic of capitalism, but in 1992 when he saw a chance, he speculated against the British pound, causing it to crash, devastating retirement savings for millions of Britons. Soros pocketed $1.1 billion for himself. If he didn’t do it, someone else would, right?

In 2002, Soros was convicted of insider trading in France, and fined millions of dollars. He admitted buying the shares, but denied it was a crime.

Last year, when he made $3.3 billion off the banking collapse, he called the world’s financial crisis “the culmination of my life’s work.”

This is a man who boasted he offered to help his mother commit suicide. Apparently he didn’t see enough death in Hungary.

Soros is a sociopath. But he’s a sociopath with $14 billion, and he likes to spend it on politics.

Moral hollowness at work
Billionaire George Soros has made a living wrecking the lives of others. Now he wants to mess with Canadians

By Ezra Levant,
QMI Agency
September 4, 2010

George Schwartz was born in Hungary in 1930 — not the luckiest time and place to be born a Jew.

George’s father Theodore tried to change the family’s fortunes by changing their name to something less Jewish-sounding. It didn’t help. And soon war came.

When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

George moved to London after the war and then to New York, where he became a stockbroker. He’s rich now. Forbes magazine says he’s the 35th richest man in the world. Maybe you’ve heard of him. He goes by the name his father invented: George Soros.

How does Soros feel about what he did as a teenager? Has it kept him up at night?

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.

“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

A Nazi would steal the Jews’ property anyways. So why not him?

That moral hollowness has shaped Soros’ life. He’s a rabid critic of capitalism, but in 1992 when he saw a chance, he speculated against the British pound, causing it to crash, devastating retirement savings for millions of Britons. Soros pocketed $1.1 billion for himself. If he didn’t do it, someone else would, right?

In 2002, Soros was convicted of insider trading in France, and fined millions of dollars. He admitted buying the shares, but denied it was a crime.

Last year, when he made $3.3 billion off the banking collapse, he called the world’s financial crisis “the culmination of my life’s work.”

This is a man who boasted he offered to help his mother commit suicide. Apparently he didn’t see enough death in Hungary.

Soros is a sociopath. But he’s a sociopath with $14 billion, and he likes to spend it on politics.
pugetsoundradio.com/cgi-.pl?m-1283644414/

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Jane Fonda-War Criminal

"I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a “black box” in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda’s ‘war criminals.’

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as “humane and lenient.” Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me."

To add insult to injury, when American POWs finally began to return home (some of them having been held captive for up to nine years) and describe the tortures they had endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Jane Fonda quickly told the country that they should “not hail the POWs as heroes, because they are hypocrites and liars.” Fonda said the idea that the POWs she had met in Vietnam had been tortured was “laughable,” claiming: “These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed.” The POWs who said they had been tortured were “exaggerating, probably for their own self-interest,” she asserted. She told audiences that “Never in the history of the United States have POWs come home looking like football players. These football players are no more heroes than Custer was. They’re military careerists and professional killers” who are “trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to law.”

Were Jane Fonda’s actions treason, or were they the exercise of a private citizen’s right to freedom of speech? At the time, the legal aspects of this question were moot: President Nixon was engaged in trying to wind down American involvement in Vietnam and had to face another election in a few months, so politically he had far more to lose than to gain by making a martyr out of a prominent anti-war activist. (No requirement in either the Constitution or federal law states that the U.S. must be engaged in a declared war – or any war at all – before charges of treason can be brought against an individual.)

On the one hand, Jane Fonda provided no tangible military assistance to the North Vietnamese: she divulged no military secrets, she gave them no money or material, and she did not interfere with the operations of the American forces. Her actions, offensive as they were to many, were primarily of propaganda value only. On the other hand, Iva Ikuko Toguri (also known as “Tokyo Rose”) was convicted of treason for making propaganda broadcasts on behalf of the Japanese during World War II (although she claimed her betrayal was forced and was eventually pardoned many years later by President Gerald Ford), and Fonda’s efforts could fall under the definition of “giving aid and comfort to the enemy.” It is also undeniable that some American soldiers came to harm as a direct result of Fonda’s actions, an outcome she should reasonably have anticipated.

26thmarines.org/janefonda.html

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

April 29, 2005, 8:04 a.m.
Jane Fonda in Wonderland
Non-apology not accepted.

By Dexter Lehtinen

You may have heard that Jane Fonda apologized to Vietnam veterans in her current book. That’s incorrect. She expressed “regret” for one photograph, but remains proud of her Radio Hanoi broadcasts, her efforts to achieve a Communist victory, and her attacks on American servicemen as war criminals. She never uses the word “apology.”

Fonda’s latest foray into her past — with her pseudo-apology for having been photographed while sitting on a Communist North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun, along with her continued vigorous defense of all other aspects of her trip to North Vietnam and her support for the North Vietnamese and Cambodian Communist wars — reminds us that apologies can be very tricky things. An unqualified apology offered with sincere regret for the full scope of the wrong by someone who recognizes the harm inflicted on others can help in reconciliation. But a “pseudo-apology,” offered with limitations by someone who still defends the bulk of the wrong, only serves to aggravate the injury.

Everyone knows the negative effects of the common pseudo-apology, the refrain of which goes, “I’m sorry if I offended you.” Pseudo-apologies attempt to subtly shift the blame to the injured party, who apparently misunderstood the good intentions of the offender.

So it is with Jane Fonda’s book. In My Life So Far, “Hanoi Jane” expresses “regret” for one thing — being photographed with an anti-aircraft gun. “I do not regret that I went. My only regret about the trip was that I was photographed in a North Vietnamese antiaircraft gun site.” Fonda amplifies: “That two minute lapse of sanity will haunt me until I die.” She is “innocent of what the photo implies,” but “the photo exists, delivering its message, regardless of what I was really doing or feeling." She makes it abundantly clear, without apology or regret, that what she was “really doing” was aiding the Communist enemy (who “touch our hearts”), and that what she was “really feeling” was that U.S. aviators were war criminals.

The photograph is not Fonda’s primary transgression. Of course, the photo itself became the everlasting graphic proof of her outrageous behavior. So in a way Fonda is right — in practice, it is the photograph that reminds generations of who Jane Fonda really is. In her “regret,” limited to the photograph alone, Vietnam veterans see Fonda’s endeavoring to ameliorate the harm to herself with virtually no regard to the harm she caused to others.

Hanoi Jane’s wrongs go far beyond the photograph. First, of course, are the facts that she joined the enemy gun crew at all and made two visits to North Vietnam. Second, Fonda’s self-initiated broadcasts on Radio Hanoi accused Americans of being war criminals. It was these broadcasts from the enemy’s capital (not the gun photo) that gave her the lasting handle “Hanoi Jane” in emulation of “Tokyo Rose,” an American who broadcast Japanese propaganda in World War II. In her self-proclaimed FTA ("F*** the Army”) rallies, she claimed that personal atrocities “were a way of life for many of our military”.

Third, Fonda exploited American POWs for Communist gain, asserting that the POWs were being treated humanely following a Communist-controlled visit. In fact, the remarkable POWs who showed any resistance to the Fonda visit were beaten severely and she betrayed the POWs by falsely claiming that they expressed “disgust” and “shame” over what they had done. When the returning POWs reported their torture, showing their broken bodies as proof, Fonda called them "hypocrites and liars.” She claims in her book that she was “framed.”

Fourth, Fonda ignored the non-Communist Vietnamese and Cambodians who resisted the Vietnamese Communists and the Cambodian Khmer Rouge, showing no concern for their fate. Fonda continued to support the Communists against indigenous non-Communists even after American withdrawal. She was not “anti-war”; she was “pro-war” — for a Communist victory. She was not even “anti-atrocity” per se, remaining silent on Communist executions of Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians (such as the 3,000 slaughtered with their hands tied in Hue in 1968, or the final tragedy following Communist victories in 1975).

Fonda’s hopes for a Communist victory in South Vietnam and Cambodia were fulfilled. But her hopes for fame as an instrument of Communist achievements have been dashed on the rocks of reality — the truth about Communist malevolence and disregard for human dignity; the truth about the commitment by most American soldiers to honorable behavior; the truth about the torture and murder of American POWs. Now her efforts to promote commercial gain through a limited pseudo-apology, which is simultaneously withdrawn by a less visible (yet explicit) defense of her transgressions, will fail on the same rocks of reality.

Jane Fonda has always lived in a kind of Wonderland — where American POWs are liars and Communist tyrants are honorable men. Now she says that “the U.S. loss represented our nation’s chance for redemption” and that the Communist victory “symbolizes hope for the planet.” Her latest foray into the Vietnam War only shows that, unlike Alice, Jane Fonda has yet to emerge from Wonderland.

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[Pax_et_Bonum]

Jane Fonda sitting on an anti-aircraft gun mount

On November 21, 1970 Jane Fonda told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, “If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist.” At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.

On August 22 1972, during an unauthorized visit to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda made a Broadcast over Radio Hanoi to American servicemen involved in the Indochina war.

On April 30 of 1999, ABC aired “A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women with Barbara Walters” honoring Hanoi Jane and others.

Read Michael D. Benge’s letter and Jane Fonda’s own words broadcast over Radio Hanoi below; then decide for your self if she deserves the honor.

Shame on Jane

By Michael Benge

To whom it may concern:

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a “black box” in Hanoi.

My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane Fonda’s “war criminals.” When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as “humane and lenient.”

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment. [Emphasis added]

Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature “100 Years of Great Women.” Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And, shame, shame on the Disney Company.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released [in 1973]. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as “100 Years of Great Women.” After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the antiwar movement. I said that I held Joan Baez’s husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest.

If the other antiwar protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn’t be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.

Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars.

After her heroes the North Vietnamese communists took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame!

Respectfully,

Michael D. Benge

Jane Fonda sitting on an anti-aircraft gun mount

On November 21, 1970 Jane Fonda told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, “If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist.” At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.

On August 22 1972, during an unauthorized visit to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda made a Broadcast over Radio Hanoi to American servicemen involved in the Indochina war.

On April 30 of 1999, ABC aired “A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women with Barbara Walters” honoring Hanoi Jane and others.

Read Michael D. Benge’s letter and Jane Fonda’s own words broadcast over Radio Hanoi below; then decide for your self if she deserves the honor.

cont.

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Shame on Jane

By Michael Benge

To whom it may concern:

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a “black box” in Hanoi.

My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane Fonda’s “war criminals.” When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as “humane and lenient.”

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment. [Emphasis added]

Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature “100 Years of Great Women.” Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And, shame, shame on the Disney Company.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released [in 1973]. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as “100 Years of Great Women.” After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the antiwar movement. I said that I held Joan Baez’s husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest.

If the other antiwar protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn’t be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.

Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars.

After her heroes the North Vietnamese communists took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame!

Respectfully,

Michael D. Benge

Jane Fonda sitting on an anti-aircraft gun mount

On November 21, 1970 Jane Fonda told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, “If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist.” At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.

On August 22 1972, during an unauthorized visit to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda made a Broadcast over Radio Hanoi to American servicemen involved in the Indochina war.

On April 30 of 1999, ABC aired “A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women with Barbara Walters” honoring Hanoi Jane and others.

Read Michael D. Benge’s letter and Jane Fonda’s own words broadcast over Radio Hanoi below; then decide for your self if she deserves the honor.

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[Pax_et_Bonum]

Shame on Jane

By Michael Benge

To whom it may concern:

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a “black box” in Hanoi.

My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane Fonda’s “war criminals.” When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as “humane and lenient.”

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment. [Emphasis added]

Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature “100 Years of Great Women.” Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And, shame, shame on the Disney Company.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released [in 1973]. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as “100 Years of Great Women.” After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the antiwar movement. I said that I held Joan Baez’s husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest.

If the other antiwar protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn’t be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.

Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars.

After her heroes the North Vietnamese communists took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame!

Respectfully,

Michael D. Benge

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[Pax_et_Bonum]

Don’t believe me ?Check Snopes.There are plenty of lies and rumours about her that were not true.Everything I have written about War Criminals Soros and Fonda is true,Gotta love the left.

 

[Darryl1958]

I remember when a 68 year old grandmother on a book-signing tour was spat on in the face and conservatives backed the move. I’m against personal violence – your right to protest stops at the tip of my nose.

So why was it ok to spit on Jane Fonda?

Leftists back violence? Like bombings and shootings of protesters at abortion clinics? Or is it the ‘pro-life’ folks doing that?

I thought that* all* Catholics here were pro-life?
Is it your opinion too that pro-life is strictly a cause of the conservative movement then, and an anathema to all that the left wing holds dear?
Your attitude which points that out speaks volumes in an of itself as to just where the Catholic left stands vis-vis the pro-life movement in general. It is a right wing kind of thing that left wing Catholics just don’t identify with at all, ergo feels no responsibility for.

Fair enough. Clarity in and of itself is a good thing.

I personally don’t think that violence against abortion clinics is much of a trend though.What maybe 8 people have been killed in this since 1973?
And to my knowledge none of these terrorist murderers have been offered any form of pardon form any sitting president, nor been offered any jobs in order for them to bring the children of the next generation over to their cause. it is something that is not encoruaged or smiled upon in any way.

Capital punishment against this kind of single issue terrorism is probably in order though, I think, so as to ensure that it does not become a trend. There likely is a special place in hell reserved to these muderous thugs who have done so much damage in smearing the good name of pro-life through associating it with their terrorism and murder.

Capital punishment would be in order. Or maybe a drone attack might do the trick too? I don’t know. I am open to the idea for sure.

I have no use for these murdering scum either. I wouldn’t want any of the left here to thing I am any less of a hard-ash on the issue as they themselves must be.

 

[Darryl1958]

Spit in the face aside, Jane has done quite well through the capitalist system. 40 million divorce settlement isn’t like the billion or so that her ex has access too, but all and all, the left has treated her well for her treason.
No protests or shame of being associated with her from them. Not to the point where the movers and shakers among them didn’t consider her prime marrying material.

She has since turned Christian has she not?

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Abortion Protester Is Killed in Michigan

By EMMA GRAVES FITZSIMMONS
Published: September 11, 2009
A man who had long opposed abortion and was known nationally among anti-abortion protesters was shot to death Friday morning while staging a protest outside a Michigan high school, the authorities said.

Harlan James Drake
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Times Topics: Abortion

Leaders of anti-abortion groups said they knew of no other instance in which a person protesting against abortion had been killed. In May, Dr. George R. Tiller, an abortion provider in Kansas, was shot to death in a crime that renewed debate over the use of violence in the abortion battle.

The protester, identified as James Pouillon, 63, was one of two people, the authorities said, who were shot dead Friday by the same man in Owosso, a city of fewer than 15,000 people about 10 miles west of Flint, Mich. The other victim, a local businessman, was not connected to the anti-abortion movement, the authorities said.

A suspect was arrested and charged in both killings.

Troy Newman, the president of the national anti-abortion group Operation Rescue, which had condemned Dr. Tiller’s death, said he was saddened by the death Mr. Pouillon, whom he had known for more than 15 years.

“There is very little, if any, common ground between pro-abortion and pro-life people,” Mr. Newman said. “One thing we had in common after Dr. Tiller’s death, there was a unilateral cry against violence.

nytimes.com/2009/09/12/us/12slay.html

 

[Pax_et_Bonum]

Police: Shooting suspect offended by anti-abortion material
ABORTION

September 11, 2009

Activist Jim Pouillon was shot and killed Friday while protesting outside Owosso High School.
Authorities have charged an Owosso, Michigan, man with two counts of first-degree premeditated murder in the Friday shooting deaths of an anti-abortion activist and another man, a prosecutor’s office said.

Authorities say the suspect, Harlan James Drake, was offended by anti-abortion material that the activist had displayed across from the school all week.

Drake, 33, is accused of shooting anti-abortion activist Jim Pouillon, 63, and Michael Fuoss, 61, who were killed in separate locations Friday morning, the prosecutor’s office in Shiawassee County said.
articles.cnn.com/2009-09-11/justice/michigan.shooting_1_anti-abortion-harlan-james-drake-shooting-deaths?_s=PM:CRIME