Gravitating towards the SSPX

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I am glad for you that these issues were resolved in whatever way they were. Perhaps that was part of God’s answer that your enquiry ‘got misplaced’ - as His Grace together with your own efforts He knew were sufficient. God helps those who help themselves.

And yes, divorce issues can be quite complex - like navigating a maze.
 
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I am glad for you that these issues were resolved in whatever way they were. Perhaps that was part of God’s answer that your enquiry ‘got misplaced’ - as His Grace together with your own efforts He knew were sufficient. God helps those who help themselves.

And yes, divorce issues can be quite complex - like navigating a maze.
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In retrospect, the Oratory might not have been the best place, so no harm done. IIRC, I contacted another similar religious entity, and they didn’t respond either. Father custody doesn’t win you a lot of love in today’s world. Don’t know, it doesn’t matter now, best to let it go.
 
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Aren’t the SSPX subject to their Superior General? Not a bishop (at least not at this time), but still a religious superior.
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Yes, the clergy of sspx are under district superiors, ultimately under the priest currently overall director. Clergy in FSSP are under religious superiors, but also in relationship with the bishop Ordinary where they live.
Laity in FSSP parishes are under the bishop, not FSSP superior.
 
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That really surprises me. The one Oratory I’ve had experience with was very traditional. They offered both the EF and the OF… and both forms were stunning. There was a true ars celebrandi. . The priests had an aurora of holiness and were wonderful confessors.
 
I would keep going to the Newman Center and quit going to the SSPX.

You cannot get Catholic teaching in its fullness from the SSPX. Their situation is irregular because they have declined to affirm teachings from Vatican 2, ie they are on record as not believing all that the Church teaches. You will get a truncated vision of the truth, which may be better than what you get elsewhere but is inherently “suspect.” That is not a path to true faith.

In addition, their irregularity means there is no firm connection between them and the local bishop, who has been placed there as your pastor. Not a big deal usually, but it means being left out of the life of the church at times.

Eucharist is a Greek word that describes giving thanks. Give thanks for what you receive at whatever mass you attend. Do not go the way of SSPX, who set standards for liturgy that do not match the Church’s standards and make you think you get less at some services than is really present there.
 
I have heard very good things about them! We have a local SSPX chapel year and a large one with 5 priests about 60 miles away. I have heard great things about all of the priests. Very solid and strong in their doctrines and messages.
 
Does anyone else think it is ironic that SSPX priests are being praised for their othodoxy and being strong in doctrine when they are still in an irregular status within the Church?

It doesn’t make sense, either you are with Rome, or you are not. :woman_shrugging:t4:
 
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Find a better diocesan priest or go to the FSSP and ICKSP, but if you can’t then stay put at that parish and make the best of it.
 
I’d recommend staying in full communion with the Church and skipping the SSPX
 
I agree with a lot of the other posters, OP. Stay away from the SSPX; as they are irregular. Stick with a simpler relationship with Rome and don’t make decisions based on subjective religiosity. It isn’t about what you feel at Mass; it’s about Who is present and following His Commands.
 
CilladeRoma said:
Does anyone else think it is ironic that SSPX priests are being praised for their othodoxy and being strong in doctrine when they are still in an irregular status within the Church?

It doesn’t make sense, either you are with Rome, or you are not.
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Sounds like some of the Anglo-Catholics I used to know. In short, they believe that the Church of England is the Catholic Church. Only in England, of course. Outside England the Catholic Church is the Catholic Church, so it’s not clear what the Anglican Communion is for. Contrary to their own Church’s teaching, they accept the jurisdiction of the Pope over the Church of England (the Pope himself is strangely unaware that he has this jurisdiction). They accept all Catholic doctrine and use the Catholic liturgy. The only points on which they disagree with the Catholic Church are the Church’s statements that the Church of England has no apostolic succession, no holy orders, and no sacraments. On those points the Catholic Church is conveniently wrong. They also find it hard to explain why there is something calling itself “the Catholic Church in England and Wales”, which has bishops, archbishops, and even a cardinal or two.
 
The SSPX is not schismatic. Their canonical situation is irregular but they are still in communion with Rome.

Every SSPX priest prays for Pope Francis and the local Ordinary (i.e. archbishop/bishop) at Holy Mass wherever they serve. Pope Francis gave SSPX priests ordinary jurisdiction in 2016 and it is still in force.

If i couldn’t go to Divine Liturgy I’d go to the SSPX.
 
Gab123 said:
All of Jesus’ warnings and severe exhortations were reserved for the religious, who were meticulously religious, spent all their time in the temple talking about God, giving alms to the poor and criticizing and condemning others
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Not quite all of His warnings were about religiosity. He also became very angry and threw out all who were disrespecting and showing irreverence in the Temple.

He never said do not follow the traditions but rather to have love for others also.

Catholics have followed the Church, attended the TLM and shown love to others for all these years, no reason why we still can’t.
 
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