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Try a Desert Eagle…
 
Not really. I’m far from being a big guy and I can conceal one easily. They’re one of the thinnest hand guns and width is much more an issue than barrel length
 
IWB holster at about the 4:30 position. Not my picture but same idea. A good gun belt is necessary. Cheap belts will stretch and sag.

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BoomBoomMancini said:
My earlier :roll_eyes: comment about concealed carry enthusiasts doesn’t really apply to people who have a credible fear of someone randomly attacking them.
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How many neighborhood robberies or rapes must there be, before you think the bar has been met and say a single women is allowed to have credible fear of a random attack?
 
Cmon, this is a lazy attempt at a loaded question. It’s no different than gun-control advocates disingenuously asking how many mass shootings we’re going to have before we ban 30 round magazines.

Besides I’m not disputing the legality of concealed carry. It’s just that in my experience the people who are really into it tend to a little off. I’m also not saying there is literally never a case where it makes sense. But most of the concealed carriers I’ve met I have no articulable reasons
 
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What is a knight without I his sword?

I own a couple guns and I carry often. I have also been asked by my priest to carry at Mass before.

I think everyone who wants to and is legally able to carry should. However I don’t think anyone should be shamed for not carrying. It is a very personal decision on whether you feel called, willing, and able to effectively respond to a threat to yourself or others. The last thing you want to do is make a violent encounter worse by your lack of training and experience. If you carry then train often, preferably with a judgmental shooting simulator if available. In addition make sure you know that law of how to legally carry and exactly when you can legally use deadly force.
 
You need a bigger gun to balance it off. Otherwise, you’ll walk funny. 😎
 
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Double 1911 😯:frowning_face_with_open_mouth:😧😲
 
Up there with the Calico or a .500 s&w magnum in terms of impracticality and absurdity.

I love it 😍😍
 
Yeah most military types have an aversion to it. My brother won’t even carry his glock with one chambered.

I’ve been to a few training courses where they had us practice with simulation rounds where we started off in condition 2 with glocks (mag inserted no round in the chamber).

An assailant would rush us, and we had to try and draw and chamber a round before he got to us.

If he was any closer than 30 feet it was near impossible. That’s why I always carry with a round in the chamber. But my bedside gun I keep an empty chamber.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
Besides I’m not disputing the legality of concealed carry. It’s just that in my experience the people who are really into it tend to a little off. I’m also not saying there is literally never a case where it makes sense. But most of the concealed carriers I’ve met I have no articulable reasons
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I suspect that just the ‘odd ones’ are noticeable. The one’s I know are every day people and don’t advertise what they are doing. If I didn’t know them well, I wouldn’t know they practice concealed carry.

The ‘odd ones’ are actually trying to get noticed.
 
Theo520 said:
I suspect that just the ‘odd ones’ are noticeable. The one’s I know are every day people and don’t advertise what they are doing. If I didn’t know them well, I wouldn’t know they practice concealed carry.

The ‘odd ones’ are actually trying to get noticed.
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That’s part of it certainly, but I don’t mean just that they are showier about the gun itself. It’s more like the people who make guns the centerpiece of their life, obsessively plan for tactical situations in the grocery store, and are barely concealing their desire for someone to mess with them so they can shoot them. I’m not saying this describes 100% of the population, but if you’ve been to a gun range you know exactly the type I’m talking about.
 
Spyridon said:
The AR-15 has proven to be a high risk weapon and there’s no reason the general public needs access to it.

And spare me with the “scary looking guns” nonsense. I’m a gun enthusiast, a committed 2nd amendment advocate, and have a marksmanship award from my military time.
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as a gun enthusiast, you should know the benefits of the ar platform.

to say there is no reason to own one is not true. i believe you have participated in various threads where the benefits were explained. it is a great gun for the disabled. it can be modified to suit their needs, including the bump stock.

if you don’t believe the benefits outweigh how the weapon has been used by perps, that is a different matter and valid opinion.

it is just not true there is no reason to own on.
Spyridon said:
Handguns are not as deadly as assault style rifles.
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tell that to the students of virginia tech. the perp killed 32 students and injured 17 more. the only defense is self-carry; like it or not. he used a .22 and 9mm handgun.
Bluebright said:
Other place where you aren’t brought up with guns such as UK are going to vote differently (possibly) just because police don’t even carry guns (except a minority of them)
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yes, the knife is the weapon of choice and london just passed new york in the murder rate.
Spyridon said:
And please, spare me of any “rubber band” comments.
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would you prefer the belt-loop version? rapid fire is easily achieved by various methods; believe it or not.
PetraG said:
only 36% of people in the US either own a gun or are aware that they live with someone who does. It is becoming a situation where those who do own a gun tend to own more than one, often far more than one.
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PetraG said:
only 36% of people in the US either own a gun or are aware that they live with someone who does. It is becoming a situation where those who do own a gun tend to own more than one, often far more than one.
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this is based on a poll, many gun owners will not admit to disclosing ownership to a poll taker.
Seagull said:
Jesus - didn’t defend himself -

Those who pick up the sword - DIE by the sword -
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Jesus didn’t defend himself for a different reason. Jesus did tell his followers to arm themselves. his comment in the garden was a rebut to an act of aggression and not a self-defense use. if you disagree, why would Jesus instruct his followers to buy a sword: if it wasn’t meant to be used? why include it in the gospel if it wasn’t meant to be followed? the writers could have just included the die by the sword statement.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
That’s part of it certainly, but I don’t mean just that they are showier about the gun itself. It’s more like the people who make guns the centerpiece of their life, obsessively plan for tactical situations in the grocery store, and are barely concealing their desire for someone to mess with them so they can shoot them. I’m not saying this describes 100% of the population, but if you’ve been to a gun range you know exactly the type I’m talking about.
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That is a good description of an ‘odd one’ and they do make their passion known to all.
However, they still do seem to be law abiding citizens.

Most who concealed carry have planned for it just like they’ve prepared for a car emergency by putting a first aid kit, food and a blanket in their trunk. They just ‘do it’ and don’t telegraph it to all. The smarter ones know that it defeats the purpose of concealed carry by letting people known, and may make them a target. The majority just try to blend in, not stand out as a zealot
 
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upant said:
if you disagree, why would Jesus instruct his followers to buy a sword: if it wasn’t meant to be used?
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Look at the passage:
He said to them, “When I sent you forth without a money bag or a sack or sandals, were you in need of anything?” “No, nothing,” they replied.
He said to them, “But now one who has a money bag should take it, and likewise a sack, and one who does not have a sword should sell his cloak and buy one.
For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, namely, ‘He was counted among the wicked’; and indeed what is written about me is coming to fulfillment.”
Then they said, “Lord, look, there are two swords here.” But he replied, “It is enough!” (Luke 22:35-38)

If he said everyone who doesn’t have a sword should buy one, the disciples produced only two, and he said “enough,” how could he have literally meant that everyone ought to have a sword? Two swords would not have been nearly enough for such a big group, if he had been talking about everyone literally arming themselves.

If, however, he meant that the disciples should not expect to be received kindly (because they would be counted among the wicked) but that they ought to look to do battle instead of protecting themselves (it being more important to have a “sword” instead of a “cloak”), then the passage makes sense: he meant what he said one way, but the disciples understood him incorrectly.

Our Lord spoke metaphorically so often and was wrongly taken literally so often that it is hardly a stretch to interpret this as one more example of the same. Besides, the disciples did not arm themselves with swords after Pentecost. As St. Paul put it, they instead prepared for the battle against evil:

Finally, draw your strength from the Lord and from his mighty power. Put on the armor of God so that you may be able to stand firm against the tactics of the devil. For our struggle is not with flesh and blood but with the principalities, with the powers, with the world rulers of this present darkness, with the evil spirits in the heavens. Therefore, put on the armor of God, that you may be able to resist on the evil day and, having done everything, to hold your ground. So stand fast with your loins girded in truth, clothed with righteousness as a breastplate, and your feet shod in readiness for the gospel of peace. In all circumstances, hold faith as a shield, to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. (Eph. 6:10-17)
 
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