Gun ownership in this day and age

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Having a weapon is not a sin. Using that weapon to take a life is. Except in the case of self defense.
In the United States, there are too many people here who should not own guns, who do. Emotionally or mentally disturbed people, who want to use a gun for something other than self defense or hunting.
All see bumper stickers that say, “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”
People kill people. But guns just make it easier.
 
YourNameHere said:
Having a weapon is not a sin. Using that weapon to take a life is. Except in the case of self defense.
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We need to remember that the use of force for self-defense must be in proportion to the threat. I do not get the feeling that most people who advocate having a gun for self-defense often consider this.
 
We can instruct people on how to use a weapon.
We cannot instruct them on how to react to a people who may come at them with harmful intent forcing them to discharge a weapon in a matter of seconds.
 
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Am I committing a sin purchasing a gun for that purpose without a licence?
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I have the strange ideas that the ability to defend oneself from evildoers is a moral good, that no government may legitimately deprive an otherwise law-abiding citizen of the right to own the tools of self-defense, and that no one is bound to obey unjust laws. So no, it is not necessarily a sin to purchase a gun without a license.
 
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We cannot instruct them on how to react to a people who may come at them with harmful intent forcing them to discharge a weapon in a matter of seconds.
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Sure we can. The instruction is “shoot at their center of mass until the threat no longer exists”.
 
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I cannot carry in schools or government buildings. Other than that I don’t care if an establishment prohibits guns. If I’m carrying concealed it’s none of their business.The worst they can do is kick me out.
 
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Emotionally or mentally disturbed people, who want to use a gun for something other than self defense or hunting.
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The whole “mental illness” argument opens up an entirely new can of worms. First of all, the Constitution applies to everyone; not just those of sound mind. Do we deny First Amendment rights to people with mental illness? No. Do we deny Peaceful Assembly rights to people with mental illness? No. Do we deny the right to vote to people with mental illness? No. The right to defend oneself is no different.

Second, the term “mental illness” paints with a very wide brush. OK, maybe we don’t want firearms in the hands of hardcore psychopathic sociopaths. But what about people at the opposite end of the Mental Illness spectrum; those with an easily-treatable mild depression? Are they to be denied the right to firearms as well?

And what kind of a scale to we use? How crazy is crazy enough to be denied firearms? What criteria is used to decide? And who makes these decisions?

The truth be told, more people walking around armed would mean less gun crime; not more. Ever notice that no one goes into a bar where off-duty police officers hang out and try to rob the place? No, because the would-be robber would know he’d never get away with it. It’s best to stick to a “safer” place like a gun-free zone.

In 1981, the city of Morton Grove, IL passed an ordinance* against the possession of handguns ostensibly to make the city “safer.” But violent crime numbers went up. In 1982, in response to the Morton Grove ordinance, the city of Kennesaw, GA passed an ordinance requiring the head of every household to own and maintain a gun. That cities crime rate went down.

Guns make the world safer. Period.

Oh, and one last thought: Of all the rights secured to the people in the US Constitution, why is the right to keep and bear arms the only one you need the government’s permission to exercise?

*In 2008, Morton Grove repealed the handgun ban in light of the DC vs, Heller decision.
 
In San Francisco you can have a gun in your home but it has to be locked up at all times. 😂
 
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tafan2 said:
We need to remember that the use of force for self-defense must be in proportion to the threat. I do not get the feeling that most people who advocate having a gun for self-defense often consider this.
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I’ve been shooting since I was eight years old, and that was drilled into me from the beginning. I suggest that you take a concealed weapons training course.
 
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Easier said that done. It is different shooting at a target and shooting at a human being.
 
Setting aside legalities, is it wise to bring in a weapon in spite of a spouse’s objections?

This brings us back to the original topic.
 
I think your average person would find it morally difficult pointing a loaded weapon at another person.
 
Hardly immoral to defend yourself with deadly force against a perp intent on murder or great bodily harm.
 
“And he started crying, like a little baby.” 😂 Wait until perp gets to GenPop!
 
This woman retreated as far as she could with her kids. The perp kept coming. Then she unloaded on him.

 
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Much more moral to allow someone else to commit a violent crime against you, your children, or some other innocents, right?
 
“Gun control” is a red herring. Jesus did not disbar Peter from carrying a sword - even at the last supper/first Eucharist.

Where do evil thoughts originate? We have good advice on that. The question to ask is why we have a society increasingly filled with murderers?

That is what needs to be addressed.

“Common sense gun control” you say? Here it is:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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It is the only guarantee of the first amendment - and all of the others. It is protection from man’s inclination to tyranny.
 
The second amendment as a tool preventing government tyranny became irrelevant when the modern battle tank became invented.

Where on a Abrams Main Battle Tank can a bunch of middle aged dudes with AR15s shoot to disable it?

Nowhere.
 
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