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MtnDwellar
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Fr Ripperger is a validly ordained priest commissioned to the ministry of exorcism. He knows as much about the demonic as a plumber knows about septics.
Saying Fr Ripperger was talking nonsense doesn’t make it nonsense. Please explain what was nonsensical?
My argument is that we should rely upon our own experts. That is hardly a railroad track of my own making. It’s usually called logic.
Saying Fr Ripperger was talking nonsense doesn’t make it nonsense. Please explain what was nonsensical?
My argument is that we should rely upon our own experts. That is hardly a railroad track of my own making. It’s usually called logic.
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exnihilo
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Fiction alone isn’t sin. But the content could be. Erotic fiction would be sinful. I don’t think we can completely dismiss the idea that fiction presenting witchcraft could be a sin.
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elsabean
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Go listen to him and get back to me. He’s so def stuck in Vatican 1 it’s crazy. It’s almost heretical. And I know it counts as nothing to you but his Parish is quite an island and they pride themselves on that. And that is fine for them but their positions are old and pre Vatican 2.
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exnihilo
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I have listened to him. I find a lot of what he says helpful. That doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong. But if you’ve listened to him then be specific in what views he has that you claim are extreme. Substantiate your claim of scrupulousness.
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MtnDwellar
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Where is his parish?
I’d like to go!
I’d like to go!
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Don_Ruggero
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Since you have put it this way:
- Father Ripperger is presently trying, yet again, to find a place of incardination because he keeps being asked to leave where he has been. My sympathies lay with the prelates who have tried to help him, without success. Rather than focusing on fantasy novels, I pray the current Bishop trying to help Father will be able to assist him in finally finding stability in his priesthood and a measure of normalcy in his ministry. Whatever fascination laity may have, that is a sign of a serious problem when looked at dispassionately by the clergy.
- Father Amorth said many remarkable and bizarre things in his advanced years…and I leave my statement there for charity’s sake.
- Father Euteneuer has had very serious issues to deal with, involving sexual misconduct, and I would not be looking for guidance in that direction.
- Don Fortea has the advantage of his education, with which I am acquainted. The last I had heard, the Bishop had removed his mandate regarding exorcisms. As a European, I know him mostly for his own rather fantastic novels.
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exnihilo
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How would you know that and how would that not be gossip both for those who told you this and you for repeating it?
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Don_Ruggero
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I have typed what is public knowledge and I have done it as a warning. What is private knowledge that I posses, I am not sharing.
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exnihilo
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Can you provide a source for this public information that he has been repeatedly asked to leave his positions? I am not aware on any such public source.
Tis_Bearself
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“Encounters”? There is a Yoga class on every street corner and the kid’s mom probably does it twice a week for exercise. Which in the USA is basically what it is, this decade’s “Aerobics” or “Calisthenics”. Hardly “secret knowledge” when the point is to work out for a half hour twisting your body into shapes to reduce stress and trim your waistline.
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Spyridon
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Nonsense, Barney the Purple Dinosaur is clearly the most evil, he is satan incarnate.
Lambchop is satanic too.
These attitudes seriously drive people away from Christ, people think we’re a bunch of hysterical, wing nut religious fundamentalists who see devils behind every tree and reject science.
These attitudes, ironically, are in fact inspired by the devil himself.
Lambchop is satanic too.
These attitudes seriously drive people away from Christ, people think we’re a bunch of hysterical, wing nut religious fundamentalists who see devils behind every tree and reject science.
These attitudes, ironically, are in fact inspired by the devil himself.
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Don_Ruggero
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Evidently you are not aware of it.
No, after your last posts to me in previous threads, I can think of no reason to use what time I give to this forum to find links for you to articles in English when I can choose to help someone else.
A search engine can help you find them…if you enter the right search terms.
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MtnDwellar
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Why was Fr Ripperger asked to leave. Does the reason have anything to do with his credibility on matters of the demonic? If not, then it’s irrelevant in this thread. I don’t think his Bishop, or Fr Ripperger focus on fantasy novels. His teachings on the demonic are credible.
It seems that you have already moved beyond charitable and into detraction. Father Amorth was a remarkable man and, Yes, he had a bizarre life. What else would be expected from someone who battles directly with the forces of evil?
Again, Father Euteneuer had issues. Everyone has issues. I don’t think his issues discredit his teaching about the demonic.
Is your point to discredit our exorcists? Why does what you heard impair his teaching about Harry Potter?
If the discussion was whether or not HP influences children to fantasize about magic, then the subject may better be addressed by the theological community. The discussion is about HP leading to extraordinary demonic influences. Let’s leave that to the experts.
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Spyridon
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I TOTALLY agree.
Those books pose much more of a danger by enticing sins of the flesh than innocuous Harry Potter books ever have with there fanciful “spells.”
Misdirected zeal, in a major way.
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alice24
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And both were write by, as it seems to me, unsatisfied mormon housewives with crude sexual and moral standards.
Nothing I want to read.
Tis_Bearself
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Is it really necessary to elevate a kid’s fantasy book series to this level of analysis? When I was a kid, I read quite a few children’s books dealing with kids who had or claimed to have some kind of supernatural or unusual powers. They were a trend in the 1970s. Some of these books were even made into children’s TV shows. And of course there were all the old classics such as King Arthur, Grimm’s Fairy Tales, Alice in Wonderland. And cartoons on Saturday morning with witches for characters, such as Sabrina the Teenage Witch who also had her own comic book. I don’t remember any kerfuffle over any of these books or shows. Shoot, we used to play games in the backyards with pretend “magic spells” like what we read in the books or saw on TV. Again, it was a game. Pretend. Fantasy. None of us little 9-year-olds almost all from Catholic families went home thinking we were really a witch or that we had to reject Jesus or any of that.
I fail to see how Harry Potter is worth so much deep thought just because it sold a lot of copies.
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exnihilo
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No I am not aware of it. If it is true I’d like to know.
What posts have I made that make you not want to help me? Even if you don’t want to help me you could certainly help others who view this thread by posting an authoritative source for this claim. It would be important for anyone to know that Fr. Ripperger has been publicly chastised by a Church authority.
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Catholicwife32
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The Narnia books weren’t aimed at children?
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alice24
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As it was in my 90´s childhood. Mary poppins is still great for me, but it seems even for her some here would organise a with trial.
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