Has women in the work force helped or hurt the family?

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trinichiqn said:
I know of men who are stay at home dads. Mom works and they take care of the kids. One lady used to work with me and the guy brought their infant daughter so they could have lunch together a few times a week. SAHD do exist and for the families that have they work. Another co-worker her husband takes the kids to school, attends all the PTAs, the teachers know him, not her and it works for their family.
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Thank you. How do you think the general public would respond to men in large numbers taking over such duties?
 
Katie966 said:
I agree with Serap, who noted awhile back that it seems you have an agenda. So I’m just going to ask you- what do YOU think? How would you answer all these questions?

I don’t think your hypothetical situation is all that realistic. If the wife preferred not to stay home, there are two possibilities- either the husband wants to stay home, or doesn’t. If he does, what makes you think that a wife wouldn’t consider him staying home as an option?

In response to your first question, most men would not want to stay home anyway. But if he and his wife both did, they would either work out a compromise (both working part time) or one of them would stay home. And yes, I think if a woman wants to stay home and it’s financially possible, she should be the one to do it. Not only does it make sense if they have multiple children, but there is a biological connection a woman has to her child that a man does not. And even in the case of adoption, a mother’s role isn’t exactly the same as a father’s. Aside from some exceptions, generally women are the more nurturing ones, whether they have a career or not.

I think you are looking for people to give you simple answers to a very complex situation, and it just isn’t possible. As several others have pointed out, each family’s circumstances are different, and in a good marriage what is best for the family as a whole is more important than individual preferences.
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Ditto to this response.
 
irishpatrick said:
Thank you. How do you think the general public would respond to men in large numbers taking over such duties?
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If “large numbers” of men made this choice, wouldn’t that imply that its accepted by the “general public”…:confused:
 
Serap said:
Ditto to this response.
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How would you feel if your husband wanted you to go to work so he could stay home and take care of your family? Even if that is not what you both chose in the beginning, what if he changed his mind and wanted to reverse that? How would feel and would you let him do that?
 
irishpatrick said:
All I am doing is asking questions. We have now seen many permanent changes in our culture, and it is always appropriate to ask if those changes were for the good or bad, or if they had no impact. I am simply curious…nothing more to it than that. 🙂
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Then why are women always targeted for the downfall of society? men always seem to get a free pass in all of this 🤷
 
Em_in_FL said:
If “large numbers” of men made this choice, wouldn’t that imply that its accepted by the “general public”…:confused:
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No…many people might not like it, but they also might not be able to change it either. Conversely, perhaps a majority would not care.
 
Serap said:
Then why are women always targeted for the downfall of society? men always seem to get a free pass in all of this 🤷
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Not from me. I think men have done far more harm then women and I blame the fall on Adam, not on Eve.

I also think men are largely behind the way things are today as well, and mostly for greed reasons…seeking money. Few people notice that two-income families today seem to have a harder time than single income families did 30 years ago. The reason is greed.
 
irishpatrick said:
How would you feel if your husband wanted you to go to work so he could stay home and take care of your family? Even if that is not what you both chose in the beginning, what if he changed his mind and wanted to reverse that? How would feel and would you let him do that?
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A good marriage would discuss the pros/cons and come to a win-win situation for the entire family.
 
irishpatrick said:
So, would you say that our culture has improved, gotten worse, or had no (name removed by moderator)act as a result of women entering the workfoce at easily 90% or higher rates?

That really is my basic question. Have things gotten worse, better or remained the same?
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IMO have remained the same. Society has always had it’s faults…

It just appears to be worse b/c the media blasts everything that happens in our faces. We now also capture statistics and other information that we didn’t capture before.
 
irishpatrick said:
I agree, impossible to say that failing families are the result of this one thing. However, it is not at all impossible to take a general view of this development and conclude that it has either been good, bad, or no impact to our culture. Chances are you will agree that there has to have been some impact.

Are our kids more moral today, than when they were cared for directly by a parent in the home? Were we a better people or worse or no impact?
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The sexual revolution in the 60’s and 70’s happened while women were in the home.
 
irishpatrick said:
All I am doing is asking questions. We have now seen many permanent changes in our culture, and it is always appropriate to ask if those changes were for the good or bad, or if they had no impact. I am simply curious…nothing more to it than that. 🙂
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I don’t think it’s wrong or bad to ask questions. I just think you are asking the *wrong *questions.

Women have always worked, from the dawn of man and certainly all through Church history.

The question isn’t about *whether *or not women work, but the changes in society from agricultural and guild based to industrial-- which has changed the *type *of work women do and *where *they do their work as it has also changed where *men *do their work.

I would also suggest that public education is a huge cultural shift less than 200 years old, which has fundamentally changed the relationship of parent and child, how and what children learn, where children spend the majority of their time, and with whom.
 
Em_in_FL said:
Not in the least. Each family is unique. One family may decide that decision is right, another may not. Whatever is good for that particular family should be implemented.
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I asked how you would feel if your husband wanted to flip things…
 
1ke said:
I don’t think it’s wrong or bad to ask questions. I just think you are asking the *wrong *questions.

Women have always worked, from the dawn of man and certainly all through Church history.

The question isn’t about *whether *or not women work, but the changes in society from agricultural and guild based to industrial-- which has changed the *type *of work women do and *where *they do their work as it has also changed where *men *do their work.

I would also suggest that public education is a huge cultural shift less than 200 years old, which has fundamentally changed the relationship of parent and child, how and what children learn, where children spend the majority of their time, and with whom.
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Fair enough…yet I think it is reasonably obvious that I am speaking about women working outside the home in professions and fulltime jobs, most of which were heavily filled by men but are now quite often filled by women. There has been a literal sea change in this area. There has to have been an impact to the good or the bad.
 
Serap said:
The sexual revolution in the 60’s and 70’s happened while women were in the home.
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Yes, quite true…but was it a good thing or bad thing? Is all the free love and sex a good thing for us collectively or a bad thing?
 
irishpatrick said:
How would you feel if your husband wanted you to go to work so he could stay home and take care of your family? Even if that is not what you both chose in the beginning, what if he changed his mind and wanted to reverse that? How would feel and would you let him do that?
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If we could pay our bills, I would support it. It’s our choice as a married couple. It’s not what society is doing per se. It’s what is best for our family.
 
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