Have any Non-Catholics here read the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

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DCD said:
If anything strikes your fancy let me know I have a good library. Is there anything specific that you want to look into within The Catholic Church?

Pax,
David
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Well, I am not a philosopher but I like to listen to catholic philosophical oppinions. I did read Faith and Reason by John Paul II. That was a masterful letter. I had a Jewish friend read it and he was more than impressed with the Pope. The letter was eclectic, and I think eclecticism makes a lot of sense…
 
SingleMomMonica said:
If any Non-Catholic has read the Catechism of the Catholic Church please answer 2 questions.
  1. please tell us if you read it in it’s entirety or have read parts (if in part, which part(s))?
  2. and please say what you liked and disliked about its teachings
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I have read much of it. I do not believe that it is paralleled with truth and I do believe that much of it is in contrast to Holy Scripture. I do not like the teachings of a heretical institution.
 
Napsack said:
I have read much of it. I do not believe that it is paralleled with truth and I do believe that much of it is in contrast to Holy Scripture. I do not like the teachings of a heretical institution.
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Which parts or paragraphs do you think are in error?

Pax,
David
 
Napsack said:
The primacy of Rome and the Bishop of Rome. The dogmas and theology regarding Mary.
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Mary is not as big a problem as the primacy of Rome I bet.🙂 In fact if you love Christ then Mary will not be a problem at all.

Peace,
David
 
masuwerte said:
… It’s a good resource for learning the Catholic Church’s official teachings. Of course, if I agreed with everything I’d want to be Catholic.
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Far too many may not realize that the translation of that second sentence is “If I agreed with Christ, I woud be Catholic.”
 
Napsack said:
The primacy of Rome and the Bishop of Rome. The dogmas and theology regarding Mary.
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I find it ironic that people will read the Scriptures and then proceed to tell the Catholic Church what they mean… that the Catholic Church is in error.

Catholics wrote Scriptures in the context of Catholicism. When you remove the context of Catholicism from the Scriptures, you no longer understand them.
 
MDK said:
I find it ironic that people will read the Scriptures and then proceed to tell the Catholic Church what they mean… that the Catholic Church is in error.

Catholics wrote Scriptures in the context of Catholicism. When you remove the context of Catholicism from the Scriptures, you no longer understand them.
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They want to drink the juice and pretend the orange had nothing to do with it.😉
 
DCD said:
Mary is not as big a problem as the primacy of Rome I bet.🙂 In fact if you love Christ then Mary will not be a problem at all.

Peace,
David
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Mary is no problem. The titles given to Mary by Catholic theology is the problem.
 
MDK said:
I find it ironic that people will read the Scriptures and then proceed to tell the Catholic Church what they mean… that the Catholic Church is in error.

Catholics wrote Scriptures in the context of Catholicism.
Really? So you can prove that then?
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SingleMomMonica said:
I’m very surprised that you found it poorly written as all of the Bishops by the guidance of the Holy Spirit who wrote the Catechism of the Catholic Church each had on average of 10 or more years of Post High School education! Any other Catholic Catechism written is required to be based off of it per the Magisterium of the Church.

I’m not familiar with the Catechism written by John Hardon you mention, but as long as he was given permission by the Magisterium to write it and wrote it based off of the Catechism of the Catholic Church it should be nearly as good!
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Maybe you can help me. I can’t find out how many years of post-highschool that Jesus had.
 
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Napsack:
“I would not believe in the Gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not influence me to do so.”
Against the letter of Mani, 5,6, 397 A.D.

“We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church which is Catholic, and which is called Catholic not only by her members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they would not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard.”
The True Religion, 7,12, 397 A.D.

“The Catholic Church is the work of Divine Providence, achieved through the prophecies of the prophets, through the Incarnation and the teaching of Christ, through the journeys of the Apostles, through the suffering, the crosses, the blood and the death of the martyrs, through the admirable lives of the saints. When, then, we see so much help on God’s part, so much progress and so much fruit, shall we hesitate to bury ourselves in the bosom of that Church? For starting from the Apostolic Chair down through successions of bishops, even unto the open confession of all mankind, it has possessed the crown of teaching authority.”
The Advantage of Believing, 391 A.D.

Here are a few quotes to ponder.

Pax,
David
 
SingleMomMonica said:
If any Non-Catholic has read the Catechism of the Catholic Church please answer 2 questions.
  1. please tell us if you read it in it’s entirety or have read parts (if in part, which part(s))?
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I’ve purchased a copy but I’ve read only parts. Moreover, my reading has been and continues to be sporadic.
SingleMomMonica said:
  1. and please say what you liked and disliked about its teachings
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I haven’t found anything within it that I dislike. It explains Catholic doctrine and as I’m currently inquiring into Catholicism it’s just what I needed (to quote The Cars). I like the clarity and I’m impressed with the comprehensiveness.

I suppose it would be fair to say that the Catholic Church leads the field in Christendom with regard to making its teachings known. If Orthodoxy is in fact the best kept secret in America, as one its bishops has apparently declared, perhaps that wouldn’t be the case if the Orthodox Church followed the example of the Catholic Church and published a Catechism of the Orthodox Church making details of Orthodox belief available not only to Americans but also to anybody and everybody all across the mortal coil. But for Protestants no similar publication is remotely possible. The arguing would begin and end with how to word the title. There would be objections from some about using the term “Protestant Church” on the grounds that Protestantism isn’t a church but a movement. There would be objections from others on the grounds that the word “Protestant” doesn’t adequately cover the diversity of beliefs that have evolved since the Reformation. And there would definitely be major objections from the Evangelical camp if the word “Bible” were not included. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, if nothing else, reflects the visible unity of the Catholic Church.

Despite not having read all of the Catechism of the Catholic Church – it’s a fairly hefty read – I will say that I very much identified with Number 25 at the end of the Prologue, scil:

Above All–Charity
25. To conclude this Prologue, it is fitting to recall this pastoral principle stated by the Roman Catechism: The whole concern of doctrine and its teaching must be directed to the love that never ends. Whether something is proposed for belief, for hope or for action, the love of our Lord must always be made accessible, so that everyone can see that all the works of perfect Christian virtue spring from love and have no other objective than to arrive at love.

What Christian could disagree with that?

Ecumenically,
Mick
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SyCarl said:
I have the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I think that it is obvious that, as a Protestant, I do not agree with many things it says. However, when discussing matters about Church teachings I feel it only right to get my information from the source rather than from non-Catholics or Catholics who may not fully know the Church’s teachings.
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God bless you SyCarl! It is people like you that get me to come to this forum.

Peace, Graubo
 
  1. please tell us if you read it in it’s entirety or have read parts (if in part, which part(s))?
    sure.
  2. and please say what you liked and disliked about its teachings
well as to style, as others have said, it doesn’t make for riveting reading if you’re trying to read from front to back, but I don’t think it was constructed with that view in mind so much.

As far as teachings go… you really want me to sit here and think of every single teaching of the CC that i like and every teaching that I dislike, which ones I think are likely true and which ones I question…?? That’s a rather broad question don’t you think?
 
DCD said:
Which one there are many?🙂
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Co-mediatrix
Co-redemptrix
Queen of Heaven

The proclamations of Mary made by the magisterium:

None shall enter except through thee (Mary).
Doing that which cannot be done only by diety.
 
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