Hello, A Satanist has joined you

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dolphinlove said:
The thing is, i dont think satan is going to give you a pat on the back IF you go to hell.
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I’m attempting to be analogous here.

What spiritual problem does experiencing pleasure from rape in a role-play situation signify?

If the interest (excitement, pleasure, etc) stems from an interest in self-destruction and submission we submit to domination. In opposition to this, experiencing joy as a result of kindness and compassion is an example of ascent to love.

So what am I attempting to say?

I don’t expect a pat on the back. This is not, and has never been, about some expectation of being rewarded. Being a “good little Satanist” doesn’t earn you anything at all.

Non Servium is not my creed.
 
hello Imyrl::after reading most of your posts i have come to the conclusion that you are not what you seem to be claiming,a statnist,…you are some one who is bitter with God for your own personal reasons…i am not going go into your problem with Him. It is suffice to say that the position you are taking now is not the postion that is deep inside you…you do really want to be with God,but your “injury” stands in the way and you refuse to let go,instead you cling to this so called uncaring front,which you are hiding the real you behind…
 
I’m not a young person seeking for attention, I’ve had way too much of it my entire life. One of the things I want is to lose attention, from the police, from the courts, from attorneys, from lawyers, but I can’t. It’s impossible and because of it I lost my childhood. I was forced to mature early, I had to make adult decisions when I was a minor. The only thing that kept me sane was my study of Religion, I read about all of them, some of them intently and some of them just a shallow read over. None the less, I searched, everyday.

And honestly it’s a little frustrating that some of you are insulting my choice, I don’t judge any of you so please, don’t judge me. We’re friends here, questions about my beliefs is perfectly fine and expected, but don’t state things you can never know about me.

Satanism promotes good health, promotes peace, promotes being friendly to those whom deserve it, and I think all of you deserve it. Some Satanists are completely insane, I’ll give you that. But there are some insane Christians, some insane Catholics, some insane everyone.

And yes, I’m neutral, being neutral is the best way to learn. When you’re not choosing sides you can take a much more informative approach. You’ll always want your side to be right, some theories about the afterlife are too depressing for us to handle, but they could always be correct.

LaVeyan wrote about an atheist religion, a philosophy too, that was impossible to fake. He was speaking to our human nature, the part that’s merciful but a little selfish, and we all are a little selfish. He hated the idea of restraints by religion, but instead restraints by moral belief. Do you see what I’m saying now? 🙂
 
Layman,

And there’s been 2000 years of seeing UFO’s, 2000 years of Theistic Satanists saying they saw Satan himself, 2000 years of Jesus in toast. It’s about what you’ve witnessed and if you have witnessed your own miracle, more power to you.

You can’t tell me what people I don’t even know have seen, what’s the validity in that? You take it as true because they believe what you believe, simple as that. But hey, I love it when people are religious, everyone who’s religious is always kind(mostly). And you seem like a very kind person, Layman.
 
Layman said:
Quote: I recall from memory the Devil is called ‘The Accuser’ in the old Testament. He wants to point to you and say to God "You want to set these above me?"
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WOW! That’s powerful! Thank you Layman!
That should get some gears turning in our minds.
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Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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My dear young friend, welcome to Catholic Forum!🙂

Oh to young again!

Well you profess to believe is the existance of satan, do you also believe that their is a god?

No, I’m not trying to convert you (YET), but you joined the Catholic Forum for discussion, so what is it you want to discuss if not religion?

So ask away:thumbsup:

But allow me to ask a none religious question.

Why are you able to think for yourself? Hmmmm:shrug:

I usually close by saying, “God bless you,” but I woun’t!

Looking forward to hearing whats on your mind.

PJM m.c.
 
Imryll,

I’ve read many of these posts. As a Catholic Christian, it is my duty to pray for the “lost sheep” and I also recognize, regardless of your beliefs, that you were “wonderfully and fearfully” made by God.

At the same time, I will not submit to the relativistic notion that “all religions are good”. Perhaps they are “interesting”, but they’re not all “good”.

Worship of Satan is NOT good. Worship of yourself is NOT good. Your conscience should tell you that.

The Bible, in Col 3:17 says: “And whatever you do, in word or in deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him”.

The Bible is the Word of God. It will remain so whether you believe it or not. The Truth will not yield to individual beliefs and certainly not Laveyan Satanism, or whatever else.

We are not to conform God to ourselves, but we are to conform ourselves to God.

So, I will not condemn you as a person, but I will condemn your actions as a Laveyan Satanist. To give any creedance(belief) “in word or in deed” to anyone other than the Blessed Trinity is to choose Hell.

As a follower of Christ, again I say I will pray for you so that He will send His Holy Spirit to save your soul.

Jesus, Mary, I love you. Save Souls!

Col317
 
I do not believe in Satan, I understand it’s a long thread with over 10 pages, so I just want to clear that up. No one wants to read that many posts in one sitting :P.
 
“I do not believe in satan”

Then why the heck do you call yourself a Satanists? I think it’s just a attention getter, you must want some attention somewhere and to come up on a Catholic forum…“Hello a satanists has joined you”…you just want to put a shock factor out there…

I think it’s a load of bologna.

Oh, welcome to the forum. 😃 And I do believe in satan, I’ve seen him way too often in work in people’s lives…demons are real.
 
Arnoagns said:
Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns
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This sounds like a classic case of rebellion to me. Lots of teenagers feel like their parents try to control every aspect of their lives, so they decide to do something really outrageous to try and distinguish themselves from their parents, such as getting a girlfriend/boyfriend that is on the opposite end of the scale of who parents want to see their child dating (just to name one thing kids do). I guess you chose religion.

Please understand that this is just my opinion.
 
I’m a skateboarder, but I do not ride skateboards. I just enjoy the title.
 
Imryl and Arnoagns,

Thanks for your replies.

Perhaps I missed something, or perhaps you’ve changed and are no longer a “Satanist”.

Could you please help me understand what it is you do believe?

Peace,

Col317
 
Imryl,

There are a lot of posts and I’d rather not spend my time that way when you could simply provide that information yourself. I’m not trying to be rude, but a simple statement of belief would suffice.

Perhaps you could be so kind as to send me a link and or describe your faith in a couple sentences? If, on the other hand, you have an individualized faith that requires several clarifications or exceptions from a popular description as found on a website… perhaps you could say, for example, “I’m a ____” except that I believe 1), 2), and 3)…

Col317
 
Imryl,

OK, I jumped back and found this:

*Someone Else: May I ask how it is you consider yourself a Satanist, but enjoy reading solidly Catholic books?

Imryl: … I consider myself a Satanist because there are words that typically describe the belief in and reverence of demons. Satanism. Diabolism. Demonolatry. (From a completely Christian point of view you can throw in “lost” and “deceived” as well.)*

So… you’re a Satanist with a “belief in and reverence of demons”.

I think my previous post, which describes that as “NOT good” still is a fitting response. Likewise, I will pray for you.

Col317
 
Quote: *“And honestly it’s a little frustrating that some of you are insulting my choice …” *

You’re on a Catholic forum. What do you expect?

Indifferentism is a heresy where one says that all religions are equally good.

If this is true, of course, then none of them are. This is the modernist, Satanic project: To speak about ‘all religions coming together as one’ while making darn sure The Word Of God is nicely muted and distorted.

Quote: “You can’t tell me what people I don’t even know have seen, what’s the validity in that? You take it as true because they believe what you believe, simple as that.”

I also believe Borneo exists, 'though I’ve never been there. I’ve read reports, and I’m happy to go along with them. 'Though in truth, my belief is Jesus is stronger than my belief in the existence of Borneo, because I’ve had a small experience of His power. I’ve never been to Borneo.

I read occult books for about 22 years, acted the great rebel, even got labeled a Satanic homosexual(!) by my countrymen. I thank God I never seriously practiced what I read. Even so, it left a taint in me I’d rather was gone.

In the past nine months or so, since I got back to the real Old Religion, traditional Roman Catholicism, and took The Commandments seriously, and read a bit of The Philokalia, I feel like a man recovering from the 'flu; I didn’t realise how ill I was, but I am starting to ‘feel myself again’ i.e. a good deal better.

If you’re a real Satanist, you may find the that the following occurs: You get what you want, but the people around you suffer. e.g. you do a ritual to get money and Aunty Mary dies, leaving it to you in her will.

Not based on my personal experience, thank God. Just something I’ve read, in more than one book.

It’s like the old kid’s stories about dealing with genies, or D’jinn: You make a wish, they carry it out, but they find a way to make you sorry.
 
Please, people! :mad: Quit trying to convert the guy!

LaVeyan Satanism is an ***independent ***religion that has as much to do with Christianity as Hinduism! It is agnostic, if not, atheist; Satan is not a living entity or quasi-deity! He is a symbol!

In hopes of making LaVeyan Satanism easier to understand for you: It is a *synonym *for “Human Nature”. Therefore, has almost *nothing *to do with Christianity!
 
What the heck kind of talk is that? Human nature has nothing to do with Christianity? And here I thought that the Church has written extensively on the nature of the human condition for the past 2000 years…and that we as Christians follow Jesus Christ, who has a human nature as well as a divine nature, united in hypostatic union. No, my friend, Christianity has everything to do with human nature, and what centuries of philosophers have defined as “human nature” has often relied upon an explicitly theistic (and many times explicitly Christian) understanding of the world.

Also, why all the yelling at people for “trying to convert this guy” when the OP came to what is quite obviously a Catholic forum of his own God-given free will? I don’t recall anyone luring him here with candy, or a puppy, or anything else. It is his own curiousity, and good for him! Maybe he will learn something about Catholicism during his time here, so long as he does not expect us to water down our traditions and teachings so that no one “insults” his choice. Choices are not sacrosanct, though the One who gives us the ability to make them surely is! It is Satanism that denies this fact, regardless of whether or not it is considered to be “Satan-worshipping” or “Self-worshipping”, so therefore it is Satanism that is my enemy and the enemy of every other believing Christian. You have the choice to get on the side of God and His Truth or go to hell. (Literally; not joking in the slightest here.)

I will continue to post in this or any other thread so long as I feel that the truth must be accounted for. It is not out of disrespect for this particular poster or anyone, but out of respect for God and His Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church. Satan is all that we are taught he is. We don’t follow this LeVey person, but Christ, who protects us from sins such as relativism and indifference.
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
Please, people! :mad: Quit trying to convert the guy!

LaVeyan Satanism is an ***independent ***religion that has as much to do with Christianity as Hinduism! It is agnostic, if not, atheist; Satan is not a living entity or quasi-deity! He is a symbol!

In hopes of making LaVeyan Satanism easier to understand for you: It is a *synonym *for “Human Nature”. Therefore, has almost *nothing *to do with Christianity!
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We would all be terribly lacking in charity if no one on a Catholic forum did anything to try and move a soul to Jesus.
 
dzheremi said:
What the heck kind of talk is that? Human nature has nothing to do with Christianity? And here I thought that the Church has written extensively on the nature of the human condition for the past 2000 years…and that we as Christians follow Jesus Christ, who has a human nature as well as a divine nature, united in hypostatic union. No, my friend, Christianity has everything to do with human nature, and what centuries of philosophers have defined as “human nature” has often relied upon an explicitly theistic (and many times explicitly Christian) understanding of the world.
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“Human nature” as in being individuals, being independent, being creative, critical thinking people, even following instinct… basically, “Man as another animal, most vicious of them all.”

Christianity calls for the opposite. Being civilized as a society; being kind no matter what; refraining from being the equivalent of anything from the Animal Kingdom.

I know… it’s a mess. :o I find it funny, though; so many of these faiths/lifestyles/philosophies can sometimes help define others. 😃 God, I love religion. ❤️
 
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