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My you Catholics are good at putting words in people’s mouths. When have I ever denied these words of Jesus? Please point out the post or apologize for this ridiculous accusation.
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Do you eat Jesus Body and drink His blood?
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Yes.
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Where?
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No, I’m not; the question has been answered by Christ through His Church. We do not hear their prayers - neither do we hear Christ’s - but we are assured by the authority of His Church that it is so. What is your authority to say otherwise? (And it’s “madam”, btw.
)No one here, let alone the Church as a whole, has said she is. Christ does teach through His Church, though, that she and all incorporated into Him within the Beatific Vision can know the needs of the brothers and sisters who request their prayers on their behalf. Why does God allowing Mary or any of the Saints to know the requests that have been made through their intercession required that they be “omni”?
God has created us to be, first, in a union with Him through the Incarnate Son, but, secondly - and through our union with Him - in a union with all who are in Him in a communion of Divine Love. To deny Mary’s and the Saints’ participation in God’s calling us to this union is a denial of the essence of of what Communion with God is about in the first place.
However, perfection has not yet come in its final eschatological reality; until that time those who faithfully await that day can - and do - enjoy the intercessory aid of those in Christ whom He has brought to the Vision of Him where faith is no longer needed. We know from Scripture that the angels watch over man (including the Son of Man: Mt. 4:11 & Lk. 22:43); therefore, they are aware of man’s needs (not on their own power, of course, but by the power they are given by God). Since the angels are to be subject to us, why would the power of men and women in glory now be less than that of these angelic servants of God?
Those who do not allow Jesus to permit others to share in His glory, in His divinity. He is not a miser in His glory. What kind of child ignores his siblings who have gathered in the house of their father for the Family Banquet? - especially when the Father is not a miser hoarding His gifts to Himself? The greatness and munificence of the Father is glorified by the greatness and munificence of His children - dispensing all from HIS Treasury
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DixiesFinest
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This suddenly got more interesting…
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Lapell
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All right,ckempton, I’ll accept this. But games on word about someone’s personal spiritual experiences are rather hurtful, even when it’s meant to be a “general” statement, remember that. I’m afraid some Protestants are good at that: the brains at the expense of the heart where the Lord wants to personally meet you… through ways chosen by Him! Don’t agress the people here because they don’t use exactly the same vocabulary with the same exact meanings as yours… As for YOUR personal prayer life, I don’t mind whatever way you choose but be careful how you talk to the rest of US about how we should live our spiritual life… there are many mansions in the house of our Father in Heaven… O.K.?
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distracted
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grandfather;3967779:
He is now with Someone who is… God gives his power to whomever he will… and he wants his Church to have power… so it does…
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That is not wht St. John 6:27- says…
and if you had ever read that passage, you would know that…
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ChristianKnight
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I came here to ask questions, I have been told most of my life as a Baptist, that Catholics are not evil, but brothers in christ. I would ask to some of you, I will not mention names cause thats rude, to stop being rude, I do not think I have been rude, if I have I ask for you to tell me, and I will tell you I am sorry.
Are their any websites, that I can learn more about these topics:
The pope
Wine and Bread
Also, question, so if a Bishop/pope says something is right/wrong, or true/false, it is, because Jesus speaks through them? If I am wrong, please just tell me I am and explain.
Are their any websites, that I can learn more about these topics:
The pope
Wine and Bread
Also, question, so if a Bishop/pope says something is right/wrong, or true/false, it is, because Jesus speaks through them? If I am wrong, please just tell me I am and explain.
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Rolltide
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First, try reading my other thread on the Real Presence, posts 8-16:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=3854198#post3854198
Here are some really good professional sites:
Our own Catholic Answers website… go to the homepage and look at the library on the left side:
catholic.com
Scripture Catholic - A Biblical defense of the faith:
http//www.scripturecatholic.com
Catholic Bridge - A site for evangelicals investigating the Catholic Church:
davidmacd.com/catholic/
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Luke 1:28 – 30 DRB
28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail,** full of grace**, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
Full of God’s grace Mary is.
Question. Do you really think that your “computer toy” (which you may think is so powerful) can compare with what she may have in heaven? To be able to know anyone who calls to her? To count millions in an instant? I’m wondering…
John 19:25-27 DRB
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son.
27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.
Was St. John orphaned?
Mary IS also our mother- not just St John. If she asks us to pray the holy rosary then she will, no doubt, be able to hear anyone who does- each one of us, millions of us.
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ChristianKnight
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Well, I think it’d much easier on something of an IM, msn is what I got, but I got aim and yahoo too, if thats not possible, umk.
btw: I was told by a friend, that the rock is not peter but christ. hmm?
btw: Most of the people have been very, very helpful, and for that I thank you
btw: I was told by a friend, that the rock is not peter but christ. hmm?
btw: Most of the people have been very, very helpful, and for that I thank you
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Bishops can be wrong. Heresies are named after bishops.
The pope can be wrong when he gives a personal opinion or in a policy. He can not be wrong when he teaches from the seat (cathedra) of Peter. Popes rarely do that. When the bishops and the pope come togeter in a formal (ecumenical) Church council and define a doctrine or dogma, they can not be wrong. The Holy Spirit protects their teaching. Jesus said to His apostles that He would be with them until the end of time and lead them into all truth. The things the Church believes as article of faith can not be
false, because God guarantees, as recorded in the Bible, God promises we will know truth. If the Church believes false doctrine God’s promises are false. “Whatever you bind on earth I will bind in heaven”, is what Jesus said to them, in the Bible.
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Well, I think it’d much easier on something of an IM, msn is what I got, but I got aim and yahoo too, if thats not possible, umk.You can exchange PMs with anyone on CAF so long as it’s all polite and stays on topic and not excessive. Doesn’t have to be the same email server as the other person.
btw: I was told by a friend, that the rock is not peter but christ. hmm?
No, he was going on the two-words-for-rock idea, but actually Jesus spoke Aramaic, which has just one word for rock, and the Greek the passage is in has just one as well. Peter is the Latin translation of that word. The two-words-for-rock story comes from a different form of Greek and doesn’t apply to how either Jesus or the people reading the Gospels in Greek would speak back then.
btw: Most of the people have been very, very helpful, and for that I thank you
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ChristianKnight
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The reason I said Im, is cause its much faster to talk through, and its how I chat with other “protestants”
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