Heterdox Teachings in Catholic Schools

[Traditional_Ang]

ByzCath:

Our brother named one or two reachers which were decidely heterodox, such as, “Jesus is not necesary for salvation.” He may not be qualified to strain at the minutae of why the Pope is Infallible or how the Blessed Virgin Mary was Assumed into Heaven, but I’m pretty sure that he can spot basic heresy.

ByzCath:

I do not doubt that many schools that label themselves as Catholic are doing so but I also know of many instances where people think something is heterdox when in reality it is not.

We don’t need a theologian or a professional apologist to see that someone teaching that Jesus wasn’t God in the Flesh, or that he wasn’t raised from the dead is teaching heresy. We just need to understand the Faith received from the Apostles.

It’s the job of ALL Catholics to teach that Faith, esp. Catholic Schools, at least that’s what Pope John Paul said in his encyclical “The heart of the Church” Ex Corde Ecclesiae.

Whether you like it or not, teachers of theology, apologists and those who’ve been educated and trained in the Teachings of the Church are supposed to know more than most Laypersons. That’s a fact of life.

ByzCath:

It is not the role of the school to teach the faith, that ultimately falls upon the parents as it is their job.

As you are only a brother of someone going there I do not see that you really have much you can do. You can try to make sure that your brother knows the Truth and you could write the administration at the school, the pastor of the affilated parish, and maybe even the bishop but you really have no standing.

According to Pope John Paul II, these people are supposed to be teaching Moral and Ethical Theology and the Practical working Theology most Catholics need to live moral lives and to resist the “Sins of the Flesh” that are so common in the teenagers and young adults.

It’s not the parents job to correct errors their kids are taught at school - It can’t and it shouldn’t be. Parents just don’t have the “Juice” to oppose errant religion and theology teachers who decide that the Church is wrong. Besides, they’re PAYING to have their kids taught the truth, not a pack of lies masquerading as the truth.

Kids learn best when their Parish Churches, families and schools are all giving them the same messages on all of lives major issues.

If there’s a problem with the school, the parents should know enough to be able to document the problem and see if other parents are expressing the same difficulties. Naturally, having someone to help them document the problems and what’s being said and where and when will help, but the parents are the ones with standing in this case.

I would also see if they can get signed statements from other students verifying what the religion teacher and other teachers are saying against the Teachings of the Church.

The parents (hopefully, they can get a few other families involved) would go to the adminstrator of the school, then to the parish priest, then to the Bishop, making sure that they document each and every meeting and what is said at each and every meeting.

This will take some work, and I can’t guarantee you any results. It’s almost easier to take the child out and to home school him or her.

Pray for them, either way, they have their work cut out for them.
And. Get them a copy of the Cathechism of the Catholic Church and whatever you can get them from Ignatius Press.

In Christ, Michael

 

[ChiRho79]

I attend the high school that Vanus Empty is talking about (Vanus Empty is a close friend of mine). I validate his claims, and I have heard some pretty heretical comments in my theology classes, which are taught by a nun of the Order of Saint Benedict. The local bishop isn’t that great. If you remember during the Terri Schiavo fiasco, he refused to make a moral judgment on the situation, and was reprimanded by the Pope and the Vatican for his lack of actions. He is not the greatest person in the world, but is alright. However, I don’t know if going to him would prove profitable.

And regarding Vanus Empty’s college, it, too, is quite liberal. The administration wanted to talk to him about his concerns, but after an in-depth analysis of the scenario, he discovered that all odds were against him (no joke, no one was supporting him, not the clergy, the administration, student government, etc), so he scrapped the meeting.

Can anything be done?

 

[Traditional_Ang]

ChiRho79:

I attend the high school that Vanus Empty is talking about (Vanus Empty is a close friend of mine). I validate his claims, and I have heard some pretty heretical comments in my theology classes, which are taught by a nun of the Order of Saint Benedict. The local bishop isn’t that great. If you remember during the Terri Schiavo fiasco, he refused to make a moral judgment on the situation, and was reprimanded by the Pope and the Vatican for his lack of actions. He is not the greatest person in the world, but is alright. However, I don’t know if going to him would prove profitable.

And regarding Vanus Empty’s college, it, too, is quite liberal. The administration wanted to talk to him about his concerns, but after an in-depth analysis of the scenario, he discovered that all odds were against him (no joke, no one was supporting him, not the clergy, the administration, student government, etc), so he scrapped the meeting.

Can anything be done?

ChiRho79:

if Vanus’ college is teaching heresy in the theology classes, then there is one procedure.

All Catholic Colleges have a Certificate to Teach Theology (Or Mandatum) - that is granted by the local Ordinary and by the Pope. Even an Ordinary who otherwise wouldn’t act will often do something to keep from looking bad. A Catholic College that’s lost it’s Mandatum isn’t a Catholic college.

This will be time consuming, and will not make either of you any friends, but if you can do this, the College will either have to toe the line and teach the Faith, or they may lose the Mandatum.

You are going to have to DOCUMENT every instance of False Teaching, including where, what class, when, by whom and what EXACTLY what was said and the Doctrines that were disputed.

You are going to need to create a COMPREHENSIVE FILE with every single incedent included in the file, along with ALL your communications with the Administration, the Clergy and the Student Government on this issue.

I would then go together to the meeting, asking if it’s OK to tape the meeting beforehand (that way, they can’t say, “We didn’t say that!”) and only meeting if they OK the taping.

Unless the meeting’s outcome is comepletely positive, copies of the Comprehensive File, and the meeting, must be sent to the Local Ordinary and the Pope and whatever agency in the Vatican deals with Catholic Universities,

One of them will know will to do. As I said, you’re not going to be very popular there when this is finished, except among the few orthodox students attending the scool.

I suggest transfering to Ave Maria University or some other orthodox institution instead. I think you’ll find out that it’s easier than fighting obstinate heretics.

And, Yes, I remember the Bishop who fled town so that he wouldn’t have to be there when Teresa Schiavo was dying after he had instructed his priests to stay away from her. That’s all I’ll say about the issue.

In Christ, Michael

 

[johnnykins]

Kirane:

Hasn’t the Catholic Church changed (or developed?) its teaching on this question so that for example, it is now taught that the Old Covenant is salvific for Jews and that they do not have to convert to Catholicism in order to be saved?

In short - no

 

[johnnykins]

Cardinal William H. Keeler of Baltimore said [some time ago] that a document made public August 12 represents the state of thought among the participants of a dialogue that has been going on for a number of years between the U.S. Catholic Church and the Jewish community in this country.

Cardinal Keeler, the U.S. Bishops’ Moderator for Catholic-Jewish relations, said that the document, entitled Reflections on Covenant and Mission, does not represent a formal position taken by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) or the Bishops’ Committee for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs (BCEIA). The purpose of publicly issuing the considerations which it contains is to encourage serious reflection on these matters by Jews and Catholics in the U.S.
bc.edu/bc_org/research/cjl/Documents/ncs_usccb120802.htm#press%20release
concerning the state,ent by the USCCB committee

of course, this is an example of confused and confusing publications by Bishops concerning the faith.

 

[iserve]

I don’t know about this diocese, but in many of them, there is a major contribution made by the hosting parish or all parishes to the running of the school. Could you possibly write a letter to the local Catholic newspaper or stage a poster campaign on “fundraising night”? These are very very effective, as many grass-roots organizers have found, Nothing speaks louder to Catholic officials like withholding those checks! I’ve seen it many times, and often, the check-writers have no idea until informed by the group. With no more support, these windbags quickly flee for greener pastures.

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kirane:

This is not a “search for truth” and this is not a “bias”. It is ridiculous to call it such. this is simply a statement that what the nun was preaching in school was similar to what was said in the document: “Reflections on Covenant and Mission.” Walter Cardinal Kasper, president of the Pontifical Commission for the Religious Relations with the Jews, is quoted by the document as saying that “the Church believes that Judaism . . . is salvific for [the Jews] because God is faithful to his promises.” Also according to the document: Jews do not need the saving act of Christ’s sacrifice because they “already dwell in a saving covenant with God."
In other words, it is not a case of an isolated school or an isolated nun teaching this. This was publicly declared by the President of a Pontifical Commission in a recent public document.
Also, this declaration and this document had nothing to do with me or with my biases, so why indulge in a personal attack on my biases? Why not spend a little effort on what the nun said in the school and what was said in the document by the President of a Pontifical Commission? All that the links show is that some Catholics dissent from what the President of a Pontifical Commission said, but to my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong, these Catholics dissenters opposing the official document with quotes from the President of the Pontifical Commission for Regligious relations with the Jews, have not been appointed to any Pontifical office or Pontifical Commission by the Vicar of Christ, the Pope of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

The document holds no authoritative weight and you would know that if you had searched further, but you didn’t because such liberal nonsense fulfilled your bias.

 

[Kirane]

johnnykins:

of course, this is an example of confused and confusing publications by Bishops concerning the faith.

I think that this illustrates my point that it is not the fault of a single nun in a single school.

 

[Kirane]

Vanus Empty:

One major erroneous teaching is that one of the nuns is saying that Jesus is not necessary for salvation, and that all you have to be is a good person. THAT IS FALSE! And I’m sure you would agree. .

I am not sure that I would agree with that. As I pointed out already, the Catholic Answers is making a big fuss about a document: “Reflections on Covenant and Mission.” . Now it is said that the document “holds no authoritative weight” and that it “does not represent a formal position.” Still, according to the links provided, CA has been making quite a fuss over a document that holds no authoritative weight. We can go back to 1953 and a book by Father Fahey to see that Catholics believed at that time also that a Jew who rejects Christ can still be saved:
Fr. Denis Fahey, The Kingship of Christ and the Conversion of the Jewish Nation (1953), p. 52 “The Jews, as a nation, are objectively aiming at giving society a direction which is in complete opposition to the order God wants. It is possible that a member of the Jewish Nation, who rejects Our Lord, may have the supernatural life which God wishes to see in every soul, and so be good with the goodness God wants, but objectively, the direction he is seeking to give to the world is opposed to God and to that life, and therefore is not good. If a Jew who rejects our Lord is good in the way God demands, it is in spite of the movement in which he and his nation is engaged.”,

 

[Kirane]

JSmitty2005:

The document holds no authoritative weight and you would know that if you had searched further, but you didn’t because such liberal nonsense fulfilled your bias.

I searched a bit more and found the following quotes which I think illustrate my point that it is not only one Catholic nun in one Catholic school who is professing such ideas:
Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, 4/30/04:

“Dear Buddhist Friends: 1. I am writing to you again this year to express my heartfelt greetings on the occasion of your festival of Vesakh. I pray that each and every one of you may have a joyful and peaceful feast. Vesakh offers an opportunity for us Christians to visit our Buddhist friends and neighbors to exchange greetings, and this helps to strengthen the bonds of friendship already established and to create new ones. It is my wish that such cordial links may continue to grow generation after generation, sharing with each other our joys and hopes, our sorrows and preoccupations…”
And
“Dear Hindu Friends,

”1. This year again, I am pleased to greet you and share with you a short message on the occasion of Diwali, the feast which you celebrate according to your venerable religious tradition. I know that among many Hindu festivals which are celebrated by you throughout the year this one, in particular, has a special place and deep relevance for you and your families. Diwali is a time for families to get together, and celebrate in a meaningful way the rites prescribed by the ancient dharma… I have always been impressed by the fact that on the occasion of Diwali there are some Hindus who make every effort to bring about reconciliation within families and between neighbors, friends and acquaintances. Could not Catholics and Hindus extend these efforts to bring about wider reconciliation and a more lasting peace in our towns and villages… Do not your various Hindu traditions (sampradaya) eloquently speak not only of God’s love for us and our love for God but also of the love that human beings must have for one another?… The occasion of the festival of Diwali provides us with ample food for thought when the Hindu tradition informs us of how light overcomes darkness, how the victory of good is achieved over evil and how hatred gives way to love through forgiveness. Dear Hindu friends, may you, your families, friends and even the strangers in your midst experience joy, peace, serenity, and light on the feast of Diwali, as symbolized by the innumerable flames, the Deepavali.” - Sent by Archbishop Michael L. Fitzgerald (10-14-2003), President of the Vatican Council for Interreligious Dialogue
And:
Pope John Paul II, May 6, 1984: “…the world looks to Korea with particular interest. For the Korean people throughout history have sought, in the great ethical and religious visions of Buddhism and Confucianism, the path to renewal of self… May I address a particular greeting to the members of the Buddhist tradition as they prepare to celebrate the festivity of the Coming of the Lord Buddha? May your rejoicing be complete and your joy fulfilled.” (L’Osservatore Romano, May 14, 1984, p. 7.)

 

[Traditional_Ang]

Kirane:

In response to your posts quoting Cadinal Casper and the document Reflections on Covenant and Mission :

The Cardinal Ratzinger Fan Club - Jewish-Christian Relations; Mixed signals from the Vatican

*As might be expected, the document was imbued by the press with a greater degree of authority than it actually possessed by many in the press, construed and portrayed as a formal declaration of the Bishops of the USCCB. In the days and months Catholics witnessed a variety of responses and discussions – some more calm, sober and reflective than others. The National Catholic Register held a symposium on the question “Should Catholic Evangelization Target Jews?” (Oct. 6-12, 2002), with predominantly critical responses to the document. Cardinal Avery Dulles responded as well in the pages of America (Oct. 14, 2002).

So great were the critical responses and overall confusion generated by Covenant and Mission that Cardinal Keeler was moved to issue a hasty clarification to the press that RCM represented “the state of thought among the participants of a dialogue”, which was not to be taken as a formal statement by the USCCB or the Bishops’ Committee for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs (BCEIA), but whose intended purpose was to “encourage serious reflection on these matters by Jews and Catholics in the U.S.”*

ratzingerfanclub.com/covenant_and_mission.html

The basis for this was NOSTRA AETATE and ongoing dialogue between The National Council of Synagogues and The Bishops Committee for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, USCCB

NOSTRA AETATE
vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

Not only did Cardinal Casper’s article drew criticism from the hierarchy of the Church,…:

Covenant and Mission
Cardinal Avery Dulles
sfarchdiocese.org/dulles.html

Should Catholic Evangelization Target Jews?
A National Catholic Register Symposium
web.archive.org/web/20031208182218/http://www.ncregister.com/Register_News/093002jew.htm

…It can hardly be considered development when our Lord Jesus said these:

Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

• Jesus then said to those Jews who believed in him, “If you remain in my word, you will truly be my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32*

*Jesus answered and said to him, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above.”

Jesus answered, "Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. What is born of flesh is flesh and what is born of spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I told you, ‘You must be born from above.’

The wind blows where it wills, and you can hear the sound it makes, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes; so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Whoever believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 3:3, 5-8, 18*

*So Jesus said again, "Amen, amen, I say to you, I am the gate for the sheep. All who came [before me] are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be saved, and will come in and go out and find pasture. John 10:7-9 *

I am the good shepherd. A good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep… I am the good shepherd, and I know mine and mine know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I will lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. These also I must lead, and they will hear my voice, and there will be one flock, one shepherd. John 10:11, 14-16

Under another Screenname, I posted the names of several hundred Jewish Victims of Palestinian Violence and Terrorism on a ME Forum. Several of those people were truly righteous people, and I knew a man who died recently who was a model of decency, but Jesus said we have to be more righteous than the righteous to get into heaven.

The only way we can do this is to be washed in the Waters of Baptism and to partake of the Sacraments of the Church. In His Mercy and Love, G-d may decide to accept the Old Covenant in leiu of the New, but do we really want to rely on that? Esp. since the Sacrifices that were the basis of that Covenant haven’t been performed for 1980 years, and even Jewish Legend says G-d left the Temple and took His keys back?

And, why would the Church deny herself such a fertile ground of Theologians and Priests?

In Christ, Michael

 

[Kirane]

Traditional Ang:

The only way we can do this is to be washed in the Waters of Baptism and to partake of the Sacraments of the Church.

How then do you understand the book of Father Fahey:
Fr. Denis Fahey, The Kingship of Christ and the Conversion of the Jewish Nation (1953), p. 52 “The Jews, as a nation, are objectively aiming at giving society a direction which is in complete opposition to the order God wants. It is possible that a member of the Jewish Nation, who rejects Our Lord, may have the supernatural life which God wishes to see in every soul, and so be good with the goodness God wants, but objectively, the direction he is seeking to give to the world is opposed to God and to that life, and therefore is not good. If a Jew who rejects our Lord is good in the way God demands, it is in spite of the movement in which he and his nation is engaged.”,

 

[Traditional_Ang]

Kirane, JSmitty2005, VanusEmpty, johnnykins:

As I’ve said, I’ve posted the names of a lot of decent people who were murdered because they were Jewish people trying to live in the ME, and then I prayed for their souls. In some cases (as in the case of one girl who was murdered by the Palestinian boyfriend she was living with), I probably was the only person who mourned their deaths and prayed for them.

There are two subjects to discuss: One is whether or not Jews who refuse to accept the Messiah can be saved. The other is how we treat Jewish people and their rights, esp. the rights to Self-Determination and Freedom of Religion.

If we could have everlasting life and get to heaven by being good people, then there would be no reason for God to become Man and to suffer and die as a a man for our sins and those of the whole world. Simply put, If you and I could have gotten to heaven by being good people, Jesus wouldn’t have had to suffer and die as He did.

The Church has taught for 1,900 years:

*For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven:by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures;*

The Nicene Creed from the Catholic Missal
sacred-texts.com/chr/nicene.htm

I can hope that G-d in His infinite mercy has allowed the people into His Kingdom whose names I posted, but I can have no certainty outside of the Church and the Sacraments. Many of these people were truly righteous and died trying to save others - I would like nothing better than to see them in the Kingdom.

Those who take the position that we should not preach the Gospel to Jewish people forget that most of them are “Secular” or “Cultural” Jews who do not practice or observe their religion, and do not go to Synagogue except under compulsion. and There is controversy among the Rabbis as to who is a Jew and who isn’t, and what one has to do to be a Jew as defined by the Covenant.

So, Who decides who’s observant and who isn’t? And, What’s the standard? If it’s the one set by our Lord, they’re in just as much trouble as we are - they don’t have the animal sacrifices and haven’t for 1980 years.

If the Old Covenant’s still valid, why hasn’t G-d allowed the Temple to be rebuilt and the sacrifices to be resumed? And, Why are so few Jewish people “Observant”? And, Why can’t the Rabbis agree about who is and isn’t a Jew?

It’s far more upsetting to me that those who would deny the Gospel to Jewish people sometimes are among the leaders in justifying or “explaining” the deliberate slaughter of Jewish men, women and children by Palestinian terrorists or in the forefront of those condemning Israel for everything from building the anti-terrorism fence to save lives to stopping UN ambulances which have been caught transporting terrorists and their bombs and weapons.

At the height of the Al Aqsa Intifada, Born Again Christians were almost the only tourists to Israel, as Israel was forsaken even by the Diaspora. It seems most of the Liberal Christians, Catholics and Orthodox my friends in Israel dealt with supported the Palestinians.

I haven’t seen anything to contradict that at CA.

I don’t have very many friends here. most of my friends, including the Orthodox Rabbi who brought me back to the faith, live in Israel. So, for me, How we treat Jewish people is more important than whether we decide the Old Covenant is still in effect. Whether we demand the same rights for Jewish people as we do for ourselves and for Arabs and Palestinians, and whether we condemn those who slaughter innocent women and children is more important than whether “Dialogue” is effected by someone handing out pamphlets. I think it’s more important to speak out against the constant murderous Judeophobea that’s so prevalent in the ME and in Islam, and to demand that Muslims do the same, than it is to worry about the effect of The Passion of the Christ on some nutcase.

I know this post is WAY OFF TOPIC, so I really do hope it’s the lost one on that sub-topic.

In Christ, Michael

 

[Traditional_Ang]

Kirane:

I was dragged in the Church doors 2-1/2 years ago by an Orthodox Rabbi and the Church Cat. I try to do the best I can using the Scriptures, the Early Church Fathers and the Councils of the Church. I haven’t read the book by Fr. Fahey.

All I know is that our Lord made some pretty unequivocal statements about how one could get into the Kingdom of G-d and what constituted “Righteousness”. By G-d’s standards, I don’t stand a chance apart from the Cross of Christ.

Cardinal Newman said I was supposed to use my educated conscience and to think and question. That’s what I’ve done. if you choose not to accept it, please find a flaw in the logic.

Do you know how important Temple Sacrifice was to the Old Covenant? Did you know that Jews claim that, near the end of the siege of Jerusalem in 67 A.D., the doors of the Temple opened by themselves and that a Wind rushed OUT? Did you know that the High Priest gave his keys back to G-d, asking, “Do you want your keys back?” How do you explain that, not only has the Temple never been rebuilt, but Animal Sacrifices have never been reinstituted?

Do you know that the SAGES wrote that the Messiah would replace the animal Sacrifices with the “Sacrifice of Praise and Thanksgiving” which would use bread and wine?

Could those all be because of this:

*But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come to be, passing through the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made by hands, that is, not belonging to this creation, he entered once for all into the sanctuary, not with the blood of goats and calves but with his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.

For if the blood of goats and bulls and the sprinkling of a heifer’s ashes can sanctify those who are defiled so that their flesh is cleansed, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works to worship the living God.

For this reason he is mediator of a new covenant: since a death has taken place for deliverance from transgressions under the first covenant, those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance.

Now where there is a will, the death of the testator must be established. For a will takes effect only at death; it has no force while the testator is alive. Thus not even the first covenant was inaugurated without blood.

When every commandment had been proclaimed by Moses to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves (and goats), together with water and crimson wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, saying, “This is ‘the blood of the covenant which God has enjoined upon you.’” In the same way, he sprinkled also the tabernacle and all the vessels of worship with blood.

According to the law almost everything is purified by blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Therefore, it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified by these rites, but the heavenly things themselves by better sacrifices than these.

For Christ did not enter into a sanctuary made by hands, a copy of the true one, but heaven itself, that he might now appear before God on our behalf. Not that he might offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters each year into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own; if that were so, he would have had to suffer repeatedly from the foundation of the world. But now once for all he has appeared at the end of the ages to take away sin by his sacrifice. Hebrews 9:11-26 *

Did you know that the ECF foretold a period of Great Apostacy, followed by a great revival in the Church, led not only by a surge of converts from Judaism, but by the fervent and orthodox Jewish converts leading the Church?

I was gone for over 20 years, but before then, I was active in both Catholic and Protestant Churches. I knew several Jewish converts, and they all benefitted the churches they attended. In some of the churches, they quickly became the ministers, or staff, of the churches.

Why would you forego the benefit of people like Scott Hahn?

Jesus gave the Church a job:

Matthew 28: 18-20
Mark 16: 16-18
Luke 24:46-47; Acts 1:8
John 20:21-23; 21:17-19

I haven’t heard of any Church Council that’s even tried countermanded Him.

If I hadn’t done the weeping and praying described in my other post, I would leave this one alone, but these people deserve better than to be told they don’t need the Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Shabbat Shalom, Michael

 

[JSmitty2005]

Kirane:

I searched a bit more and found the following quotes which I think illustrate my point that it is not only one Catholic nun in one Catholic school who is professing such ideas:
Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, 4/30/04:

“Dear Buddhist Friends: 1. I am writing to you again this year to express my heartfelt greetings on the occasion of your festival of Vesakh. I pray that each and every one of you may have a joyful and peaceful feast. Vesakh offers an opportunity for us Christians to visit our Buddhist friends and neighbors to exchange greetings, and this helps to strengthen the bonds of friendship already established and to create new ones. It is my wish that such cordial links may continue to grow generation after generation, sharing with each other our joys and hopes, our sorrows and preoccupations…”
And
“Dear Hindu Friends,

”1. This year again, I am pleased to greet you and share with you a short message on the occasion of Diwali, the feast which you celebrate according to your venerable religious tradition. I know that among many Hindu festivals which are celebrated by you throughout the year this one, in particular, has a special place and deep relevance for you and your families. Diwali is a time for families to get together, and celebrate in a meaningful way the rites prescribed by the ancient dharma… I have always been impressed by the fact that on the occasion of Diwali there are some Hindus who make every effort to bring about reconciliation within families and between neighbors, friends and acquaintances. Could not Catholics and Hindus extend these efforts to bring about wider reconciliation and a more lasting peace in our towns and villages… Do not your various Hindu traditions (sampradaya) eloquently speak not only of God’s love for us and our love for God but also of the love that human beings must have for one another?… The occasion of the festival of Diwali provides us with ample food for thought when the Hindu tradition informs us of how light overcomes darkness, how the victory of good is achieved over evil and how hatred gives way to love through forgiveness. Dear Hindu friends, may you, your families, friends and even the strangers in your midst experience joy, peace, serenity, and light on the feast of Diwali, as symbolized by the innumerable flames, the Deepavali.” - Sent by Archbishop Michael L. Fitzgerald (10-14-2003), President of the Vatican Council for Interreligious Dialogue
And:
Pope John Paul II, May 6, 1984: “…the world looks to Korea with particular interest. For the Korean people throughout history have sought, in the great ethical and religious visions of Buddhism and Confucianism, the path to renewal of self… May I address a particular greeting to the members of the Buddhist tradition as they prepare to celebrate the festivity of the Coming of the Lord Buddha? May your rejoicing be complete and your joy fulfilled.” (L’Osservatore Romano, May 14, 1984, p. 7.)

Once again, none of that means anything. Even the pope’s statement was in no way authoritative. The Church’s dogma has always been and always will be that salvation comes through Christ alone through His Church alone. The fact that there are a large number of dissidents does not mean that the Church has changed its teaching. The Church is not a democracy. Give it up.

 

[johnnykins]

JSmitty2005:

Once again, none of that means anything. Even the pope’s statement was in no way authoritative. The Church’s dogma has always been and always will be that salvation comes through Christ alone through His Church alone. The fact that there are a large number of dissidents does not mean that the Church has changed its teaching. The Church is not a democracy. Give it up.

The Declaration Dominus Iesus gives a clear exposition on Catholic Doctrine in this matter

 

[JSmitty2005]

johnnykins:

The Declaration Dominus Iesus gives a clear exposition on Catholic Doctrine in this matter

:yup: Yup.

Here it is:

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html

 

[rwoehmke]

Vanus Empty:

First off, I don’t know whether this belongs in the Water Cooler, but I am just asking for advice.
I need help. I am a college freshman. I really want to do something, but I don’t know where to start.
All I’m asking for is advice, preferably from those who still keep the orthodox teachings of the Church.

Quite frankly I am surprised that you are obviously a second semester freshman in this College. Why haven’t you pulled up stakes and transferred to somewhere better? I get no sense whatsoever that you have discussed either the College or your brothers high school with your parents. Are you orphans? I will say this only once. If you live on campus you and /or your parents have to be putting up at least $25,000 a year for what you are getting. You cannot afford either the money or the time to try to bring this place down or into compliance. As the anti-war folks say,“It is time to cut and run.” Write your letter to the Bishop if it makes you feel better, but get on with your life as soon as possible. There are good Catholic Schools and Universities out there. Find one and transfer those credits before you get locked in.(Many colleges require your attendence during the last year or two at the college where you will take your degree.)

 

[Kirane]

JSmitty2005:

Give it up.

I find this to be inconsistent. First you say to search. Then when I give you quotes similar to what the nun was preaching in a high school, you say to give it up.
The fact remains that my point remains valid that it was not a case of one single nun who is preaching such doctrine. These ecumenical discussions are being preached by more than one single nun in one single RC high school.

 

[Kirane]

JSmitty2005:

Once again, none of that means anything. :

It is remarkable that what the Pope of Rome and the Supreme Pontiff of the Catholic Church and the Vicar of Christ says here as quoted means nothing to you.