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mary_bobo said:
I’ve always thought it more prudent to wait a few years after a president has left office to rank him. The “failed” war was because Obama pulled out our troops too soon and he is doing the same in Afghanistan. And the deficit–Obama has added more to the deficit than any combination of the foregoing presidents, including a combination of all of them.
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The war in Iraq did not fail because of Obama. Aside from the fact that it wasn’t a very good idea in the first place and there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD), It failed because the occupation and reconstruction of Iraq were completely mismanaged by the Bush administration. And the withdrawal date was negotiated by the Bush administration, not the Obama administration. The US was asked by the Iraqi government which we put in place to withdraw and had no legal basis in international law for remaining in Iraq.

As for the deficit, most of that was because of the bailout of our economy as a result of the economic meltdown and recession that began under the Bush administration. Also, as a percentage of the national debt that existed when he took office, Bush added $5.849 trillion to the national debt or a 101% increase. Obama, coming into office at the beginning of the biggest recession since World War II, added $6.563 trillion (not a whole lot more than what Bush added) or a 55.4% increase.

useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm
 
Little_Sheep said:
How do you define a feminist, LB? I define it pretty simply as a person who thinks women are human beings, but I know that there are other definitions. It’s a little bit of a controversial word in that I’m never quite sure what someone might mean when they claim or don’t claim it, you know?

Under my definition, most folks are feminists, but I guess it sprung up as a political term when women were fighting for equal rights and, in some ways, we are still fighting for equal rights.

In any event, I’d love your thoughts on the word. I rarely identify myself as a feminist because it seems sort of unnecessary and because, as I said before, it is a word that means different things to different people.
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I suppose I don’t call myself a feminist because the word conjures up images of women who hate men, don’t wax or groom well, and think abortion is fine. That’s not me. LOL However, I do believe women should have the same rights as men and be paid equal pay for equal work.
 
Thorolfr said:
The war in Iraq did not fail because of Obama. Aside from the fact that it wasn’t a very good idea in the first place and there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD), It failed because the occupation and reconstruction of Iraq were completely mismanaged by the Bush administration. And the withdrawal date was negotiated by the Bush administration, not the Obama administration. The US was asked by the Iraqi government which we put in place to withdraw and had no legal basis in international law for remaining in Iraq.

As for the deficit, most of that was because of the bailout of our economy as a result of the economic meltdown and recession that began under the Bush administration. Also, as a percentage of the national debt that existed when he took office, Bush added $5.849 trillion to the national debt or a 101% increase. Obama, coming into office at the beginning of the biggest recession since World War II, added $6.563 trillion (not a whole lot more than what Bush added) or a 55.4% increase.

useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm
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Agree 100%. 👍
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I suppose I don’t call myself a feminist because the word conjures up images of women who hate men, don’t wax or groom well, and think abortion is fine. That’s not me. LOL However, I do believe women should have the same rights as men and be paid equal pay for equal work.
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The difference in pay is generally related more to the hazards of the jobs that men do, such as construction, mining and farming.

Although, one could ask George Soros why he hasn’t paid all of his female employees as equally as some of the men…
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Democrats are fighting for EVERYONE.
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Democrats fight for affirmative action which ends up discriminating against Asian students who apply for college admission. Even though Asian students score higher than any other group, affirmative action policies demand that other students from groups with lower scores be admitted before the Asian student. I think it is wrong to discriminate against Asian students. So Democrats do not fight for equality for the Asian student.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I suppose I don’t call myself a feminist because the word conjures up images of women who hate men, don’t wax or groom well, and think abortion is fine. That’s not me. LOL However, I do believe women should have the same rights as men and be paid equal pay for equal work.
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LOL - yes, I have met some women like that! It is a confusing word that seems just completely politicized to me!
 
mary_bobo said:
I’ve always thought it more prudent to wait a few years after a president has left office to rank him. The “failed” war was because Obama pulled out our troops too soon and he is doing the same in Afghanistan. And the deficit–Obama has added more to the deficit than any combination of the foregoing presidents, including a combination of all of them.
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Are you aware of the agreement that Bush made to leave Iraq. Obama just lived up to Bush’s agreement.

I don’t think Obama is perfect. I just don’t think any president should be blamed for what the previous president put in place.
 
mary_bobo said:
And that’s the problem. Dems think we are all to dumb to decide things for ourselves or to attain anything beyond what they are willing to give us. It would be far better to help people learn how to attain things for themselves. And just how many immigrants, of the illegal type, should we allow to come into the country? Enough to build the Dems voting coffers?
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👍 I agree!
 
sallybutler said:
Are you aware of the agreement that Bush made to leave Iraq. Obama just lived up to Bush’s agreement.

I don’t think Obama is perfect. I just don’t think any president should be blamed for what the previous president put in place.
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mary_bobo said:
I’ve always thought it more prudent to wait a few years after a president has left office to rank him. The “failed” war was because Obama pulled out our troops too soon and he is doing the same in Afghanistan. And the deficit–Obama has added more to the deficit than any combination of the foregoing presidents, including a combination of all of them.
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The war was not a failed war the year that Obama entered into office. That administration was boasting of Iraq as one of their accomplishments, until it wasn’t.
 
Unsubscribing.

Too much time and energy for the last week of Lent.

Jim
 
Lily

Hilary does NOT fight for everyone! She ignores the most vulnerable -** the unborn child in the womb

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jediliz said:
Lily

Hilary does NOT fight for everyone! She ignores the most vulnerable -** the unborn child in the womb

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But don’t you know?Hillary is pro choice but she doesn’t actively promote or ever force any woman to have an abortion,so she is ok…not!
 
Jeanne_S said:
But don’t you know?Hillary is pro choice but she doesn’t actively promote or ever force any woman to have an abortion,so she is ok…not!
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Fiorina and others have said that because of Benghazi, Hillary has blood on her hands.
 
Jeanne_S said:
But don’t you know?Hillary is pro choice but she doesn’t actively promote or ever force any woman to have an abortion,so she is ok…not!
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I think that is what they refer to as mental gymnastics. and don’t forget Hillary’s daughter Chelsea herself said she left the Baptist church at 6 years old because they taught abortion is a sin. Like mother, like daughter.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I think that is what they refer to as mental gymnastics. and don’t forget Hillary’s daughter Chelsea herself said she left the Baptist church at 6 years old because they taught abortion is a sin. Like mother, like daughter.
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Yes,I read where Chelsea said we have to protect abortion at all costs!:eek:
Yes you are correct there are those who will rationalize Hillary’s deep and abiding allegiance to PP and abortion industry as a whole ,as ok because,Afterall she is so good on other issues:rolleyes:
 
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