Who knows what Democrats would have done, but still, you have to admit the irony of it all- that a Republican congress, and a president that prides himself on being a fiscal conservative signed one of the greatest expansions in public programs in recent history. I guess we should call him a tax-cut and spend president?
Hardly non-partisan: vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=H1152103Was that the one where they kept a vote open for over 3 hours because they were going to lose it, and had to twist people’s arms to change their vote?
There are some advantages to having a non-partisan Speaker of the House, like we do
Mike
No, I know, though I phrased it clumsily.
The U.S. system is a Constitutional Republican Federal system. (Republican as in a representational republic. The U.S. is not a democracy.) The design of the central legislature (Congress) is detailed in the U.S. Constitution; it is a bicameral system by design.
Off topic: We DO know what the Democrats would have done. They want a combination of the Canadian and British medical systems.Who knows what Democrats would have done, but still, you have to admit the irony of it all- that a Republican congress, and a president that prides himself on being a fiscal conservative signed one of the greatest expansions in public programs in recent history. I guess we should call him a tax-cut and spend president?
Anyway, sorry, I know I’m going off topic. I still think it’s great that Hillary wears a cross.
True. I suspect Hillary will soon adopt a black baby to round out her ensemble.
Off-topic: I don’t agree with that. If you remember back to the Clinton Health Care plan debate, there were a number of centrist Democrats who were not in favor of the universal healthcare plan that was introduced- such as George Mitchell, Bob Kerry, Sam Nunn, Joe Leiberman- and there are number of centrist democrats today that would hardly favor a Canadian or British model healthcare system.
The thought would never cross my mind. I’m not claiming Hillary is a saint at all, she is just a regular human who has her good points, and may be misinformed on some issues and as such needs prayers just like the rest of us. But I don’t think one needs to be a saint to wear a cross.
Other than the fact she aids and abetts the slaughter of 1.2 million kids a year I am sure she is a very nice person…
Shouldn’t you provide evidence of that kind of accusation?
If you do not know that Hillary is pro-abortion then i am sure there is no evidence anyone can provide you. Or perhaps you dont know what a person is talking about when they say they support reproductive freedom…
I’m not sure what hoping to change or advance with such incendiary language. If you have providential knowledge that Hillary has full knowldge knowledge of the evils of abortion and is pro-choice anyway then go ahead and judge her. But as far as I know, no human, with the exception of Jesus who was both human and divine, has knowledge of what’s in another’s heart and mind. As I told another poster, your time might be better sent trying to write Hillary a letter or e-mail her if you are concerned about her erroneous position on abortion, that would be a very charitable act.
As a former pro-choicer, I can honestly say most people do not fully know or comprehend the grave error of abortion. A lot of that is by choice, and a lot of it is due to the fact that the truth is supressed.
But the heart of the issue in the abortion debate is when life (consciousness, a soul) begins. We as Catholics believe life begins at conception. You can try to measure the consiousness of a fetus, but it ultimately is matter of faith as to when life actually begins. Sen. Clinton can have all the knowledge in the world about the technical aspects of abortion, but I’m sure that she holds an erroneous view of when life actually begins. I’m sure you had this same question when you were pro-choice. Hopefully with prayers and letters, she’ll come around.
Hello fellow Californian. Is the cross and flag in the ad intentional? Who knows, maybe. But it’s not like he is running for office and if he were, California would vote for him anyway with or without a cross in his ads.BTW - just because we are on the subject, Bill Clinton is campaigning in our great state of California for Prop 87. It’s funny that I just recently noticed in his ad that there is a very small shot of a cross and flag in the ad while he’s talking. Just thought it a funny piece of “propaganda” certainly he’s not the only one, but man you sure can tell when it’s that time of year. LOL
Being pro-abortion is different than aiding and abetting “the slaughter of 1.2 million kids a year”.
That’s rather insulting bob. Sounds like you’re calling me stupid.
But the heart of the issue in the abortion debate is when life (consciousness, a soul) begins. We as Catholics believe life begins at conception. You can try to measure the consiousness of a fetus, but it ultimately is matter of faith as to when life actually begins. Sen. Clinton can have all the knowledge in the world about the technical aspects of abortion, but I’m sure that she holds an erroneous view of when life actually begins. I’m sure you had this same question when you were pro-choice. Hopefully with prayers and letters, she’ll come around.
**Yes, there is always hope, I’m an example!
I have to disagree as to the claim that faith alone tells us when life begins. That is simply not true and science has produced ample evidence to support what faith does tell us is true. God is funny that way - He seems to always know what He’s talking about.
In any case - in my case, I simply didn’t acknowledge it, I really think deep in my heart I didn’t want to think about it, I would know what they answer would be. I personally think this is true for a lot of pro-choicers, espcially those of “faith” and goodwill. Not knowing however the gruesome facts of what happens to the fetus, how the clinics are run, etc., that IMHO has to be known by those more “in the know”. And those facts should chill anyone with any sort of conscience to the bone.
How can people support such things when they know what is behind it all? I can’t say for sure. I think there are things greater than “politics” involved. But I think I’ve run this thread off topic more than I should have already. But I agree - I still have to have charity even though I am implicating Clinton of behaving beyond conscience. That’s hard for me to say, and I don’t want to judge too harshly for my own sake, but truly one must not look away from facts for the sake of making ourselves feel better or whatever. That’s just my opinion. **
Hello fellow Californian. Is the cross and flag in the ad intentional? Who knows, maybe. But it’s not like he is running for office and if he were, California would vote for him anyway with or without a cross in his ads.
**The placement is actually pretty awkward for it to be anything but intentional if not subliminal. But seriously he’s not the only one - it happens all the time. Just funny to me that I happened to notice it, I thought of this thread.
As Catholics we believe in sins of comission and sins of omission. Hilary may be guilty of a sin of comission in regards to abortion. How about the rest of the politicians who CLAIM to be against abortion but haven’t done anything? Why do we not get all bent out of shape of those committing the sins of omission? By them ALLOWING this gross injustice to happen to the most innocent and defenseless of life, we could say that they too are aiding in the slaughter of 1.2 million babies each year. To bring this back around to the title of this thread - I don’t see anyone getting bent out of shape if those people wear crosses or profess to be christians.
Most of the politicians who are against abortion cast votes for legislation that attempts to ban abortions, so in nearly all of those cases the pro-life politicians are taking an active position against the grave evil.
So you believe that we should hold those who ran the gas chambers responsible but excuse those who hired them?
My Momma always said “stuipd is as stupid does”That’s rather insulting bob. Sounds like you’re calling me stupid.