Houston Area Students walkout to Protest Immigration Reform

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TarAshly:
So whats going to happen to the children of immigrants?
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Odds are very high they will be with their parents.
 
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TarAshly:
Where?
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Where their parents are. If their parents are in the US, odds are high they will be in the US. If the parents are in another country, then that’s where the kids will likely be.
 
Just my opinion, but I think it’s irresponsible of the kids and of any adult encouraging or condoning this behavior. I think the US has every right to prudently and reasonably enforce immigration reform. I’ve heard some of the kids explain what they are protesting, and it’s not very accurate as to the issue in Congress. Smells like exploitation to me. :twocents:
Personally I wish we could have this kind of outrage over issues like abortion, erosion of religious freedoms, real civil justice issues. I’m growing pretty tired of the outrage over the rights of lawbreaking individuals, most of whom apparently refuse to even try to apply for legal citizenship in good faith.
 
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TarAshly:
So whats going to happen to the children of immigrants?
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Most likely shipped back with them. And before you scream “that’s not fair b/c they’ve only lived here in the US!” or “they don’t speak spainish!”, just remember that:
  1. Their parents had a chance to remedy their immigration status and didn’t.
  2. They should be very familiar with the customs and the language since they are so proud and carrying around Mexican flags, plus you’ve mentioned that culture is very important to them.
 
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Jennifer123:
Just my opinion, but I think it’s irresponsible of the kids and of any adult encouraging or condoning this behavior. I think the US has every right to prudently and reasonably enforce immigration reform. I’ve heard some of the kids explain what they are protesting, and it’s not very accurate as to the issue in Congress. Smells like exploitation to me. :twocents:
Personally I wish we could have this kind of outrage over issues like abortion, erosion of religious freedoms, real civil justice issues. I’m growing pretty tired of the outrage over the rights of lawbreaking individuals, most of whom apparently refuse to even try to apply for legal citizenship in good faith.
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I agree with you 100%!
 
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TarAshly:
So whats going to happen to the children of immigrants?
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My children are children of an immigrant. She, my wife, came here legally and became a citizen so my kids are citizens therefore they get to stay. If your parents came here illegally then you get shipped back to where they came from along with them. Please don’t throw up these straw men. We are talking about immigration reform. If you are for illegal immigration just say so.
 
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wabrams:
Most likely shipped back with them. And before you scream “that’s not fair b/c they’ve only lived here in the US!” or “they don’t speak spainish!”, just remember that:
  1. Their parents had a chance to remedy their immigration status and didn’t.
  2. They should be very familiar with the customs and the language since they are so proud and carrying around Mexican flags, plus you’ve mentioned that culture is very important to them.
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:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
 
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Jennifer123:
Just my opinion, but I think it’s irresponsible of the kids and of any adult encouraging or condoning this behavior. I think the US has every right to prudently and reasonably enforce immigration reform. I’ve heard some of the kids explain what they are protesting, and it’s not very accurate as to the issue in Congress. Smells like exploitation to me. :twocents:
Personally I wish we could have this kind of outrage over issues like abortion, erosion of religious freedoms, real civil justice issues. I’m growing pretty tired of the outrage over the rights of lawbreaking individuals, most of whom apparently refuse to even try to apply for legal citizenship in good faith.
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If this many people across the US were this passionate about stopping abortion, I bet you could get Roe v. Wade overturned really quick.

I’ll see your 11 million immigrants and raise you 40 million aborted children.
 
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wabrams:
If this many people across the US were this passionate about stopping abortion, I bet you could get Roe v. Wade overturned really quick.

I’ll see your 11 million immigrants and raise you 40 million aborted children.
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If this many people were actually this passionate about ending poverty ANYWHERE it would be ended totally in just a few years.

From where I sit, this issue is more pro-socialist agenda claptrap designed to incrementally bring the US in line with their wishes.
 
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Geldain:
If this many people were actually this passionate about ending poverty ANYWHERE it would be ended totally in just a few years.

From where I sit, this issue is more pro-socialist agenda claptrap designed to incrementally bring the US in line with their wishes.
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Never thought of it that way.
 
Good point.
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Geldain:
If this many people were actually this passionate about ending poverty ANYWHERE it would be ended totally in just a few years.

From where I sit, this issue is more pro-socialist agenda claptrap designed to incrementally bring the US in line with their wishes.
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Geldain:
If they want to hold a meaningful protest, do it before or after school. This would lend them credibility. From where I sit, they look like any other kids who got a chance to skip school.
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This was my thought exactly. I would have been impressed had they stayed after school and given up arcade time or telephone time, as opposed to time in Algebra or English. As it is, it seems to be a rather sophmoric gesture.
 
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Geldain:
I don’t care why any kid skips school. From where I sit, it’s a horrible thing to ever ok. I think the TV coverage would be much greater and the coverage more positive to their cause had they protested after school.

If one of my kids came to me and said, “Dad, I want to protest with my classmates after school about issue X” I would make sure the issue wasn’t in direct violation of the Teachings of the Catholic Church and if I felt it was going to be a safe environment for them I would say, “sure. Be home at this time.” They would call me when they arrived and when they were leaving and we’d talk about it at dinner.

If they came to me and said, “Dad, we want to protest during school tomorrow over issue X” I would assure them they were taking their lives into their hands for even considering such an insane notion. The answer would be *NO *and a list of consequences would be presented they know they could count on coming their way if they did what I told them not to do.
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I absolutely agree with all of what you just said. My kids are pre-teens and there is no way that they would be allowed to do this during school time. Not only is it violating the law (which would only be even remotely acceptable if the SCHOOL was doing something immoral) but it is disrupting the education of the other students. Not to mention that the whole issue is about condoning the illegal acts of a large group of people. What kind of moral message does this send to the kids to applaud them for this???
 
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Geldain:
No, I want them arrested for truancy not for protesting.
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Almost as much of a ‘wow’. You think the best response to a ‘first offence’ for truancy is to arrest them, like a regular criminal? Wow.

Mike
 
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Lance:
Yes, the law says they should be in school. If they break the law they should be arrested, charged with a crime and given a trial.
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Now you want to try them for truancy? ‘Wow’ would be a gross understatement.

Mike
 
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MikeWM:
Almost as much of a ‘wow’. You think the best response to a ‘first offence’ for truancy is to arrest them, like a regular criminal? Wow.

Mike
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In America, it’s a common practice for the truant officer to do so when they find a student skipping school. Not a new or unusual thing. No wow to see here:)
 
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MikeWM:
Now you want to try them for truancy? ‘Wow’ would be a gross understatement.

Mike
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Actually there wouldn’t be a trial unless a parent wanted one. There wouldn’t even be a fine in most cases. The experience is usually enough to motivate a student not to repeat the action, unless they are incorigible, of course, which is a whole different topic for a different thread.
 
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Geldain:
If this many people were actually this passionate about ending poverty ANYWHERE it would be ended totally in just a few years.

From where I sit, this issue is more pro-socialist agenda claptrap designed to incrementally bring the US in line with their wishes.
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The immigration bill is very socialist!! There is no mention of compensation to employers of those illegal brown people. Employers, many who are Christian, will suffer a loss without an illegal workforce. The agricultural, sweatshop textile and shoe industries would take a hit. Any mention of compensation? No!! Those illegal brown people are grateful for $4/hr. American citizen field hands will want minimum wage. Also the laws demand employers pay into workers’ comp in case some of the brown people get injuried on the job. Socialism!! The illegal brown folks are disposable. Sort of like toilet tissue but with arms and legs. In California, those Marxists in Sacramento make employers provide water to those brown people. Like water doesn’t cost $.

Where is the compassion for the real victims of immigration reform – the employers? Jesus would weep!
 
I am being sarcastic. Because illegal aliens live all over San Diego. And employers exploit them within an inch of their life. Most of the illegals are Catholic. How much compassion can they expect from the Catholics on this side of the border?
 
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