Why not pray that he and others see and come to understand the errors of their viewpoints and actions and stay on with a new vigor and love for the Church and her Teachings?
THat went right over your head didn’t it…!My understanding of what CSF is trying to explain is that “no-one is beyond salvation”. i.e. yes right now they may be committing a mortal sin in the eyes of God but that does not mean that they are beyond redemption.
I don’t think so, I think what is uncharitable is the scandal someone like this creates is leading many people out of the faith and into the grip of Satan. Just look at the level of agreement with this priest from catholics even in this forum. The Relativistic Ideas this ideaolgies blind people to the sin that they condone.
I have not seen a priest outright deny but rather give a warning to those who were either not Catholic or in a state of grace to not come to communion. My husband made sure that his 2 brothers, both being in sinful marriages/relationships, quietly approached the communion line for a blessing only.The majority of those with advanced degrees and living in the Western Industrialized countries do not look upon LGBTQ humans as disordered. Priests are generally well educated, many having post grad degrees. Have you ever witnessed a priest refuse to offer the Eucharist to a person that is gay? I was not specifically speaking of gay marriage, but of supporting loved ones who are in a loving and long term monogamous relationship and happen to be gay, not straight. What I thought when I read the OP is that this couple is lucky to have such a loving family. I would never advocate for the Church to perform marriage ceremonies for gay couples since it is still forbidden, however; I see no harm, much less scandal, in attending the civil ceremony or other religious marriage celebration for those that are in loveand wish to let it be known that they are in a lifetime relationship.
Yes, I understand that my stance is not that of many traditionalists, so be it.
I don’t think Archbishop Cordileone would take kindly to his priests being “out.”
I don’t think Archbishop Cordileone would take kindly to his priests being “out.”
Perhaps if we think of this in terms of vocation, it might be more helpful. God is calling us by name. That voice is one that we hear all our lives, and our journey is to follow that calling. ‘I have called you by name and you are mine.’ as is said in Isaiah. ‘Follow me…’
Well, he certainly has them here.
Oh I know what he’s trying to say. And to a certain extent, there is some truth in the statement that everyone has a journey they should take towards holiness. But what CSF is trying to do is to excuse or condone sin (homosexual acts) as their journey to God and perfection, so it is okay for them to sin. That is the error and falsehood.
I’m not assuming anything. I asked you if you would change your views when God tells you they are wrong. You said God has not done so. So your views must therefore be without error, ever. Hence you are infallible and inerrant.
You know Him perfectly? You know His views on homosexual acts? Perfectly? When and where did you receive this revelation? Please do describe God’s perfect views on homosexual acts.
Much like the advice George Costanza gave Jerry as he was going in to take a polygraph: “Just remember this, it’s not a lie if you believe it”.Subjectivism is the philosophical tenet that “our own mental activity is the only unquestionable fact of our experience”. In other words, subjectivism is the doctrine that knowledge is merely subjective and that there is no external or objective truth.
My bolding and underlining.
Agreed. Removing him is harsh. He was just extending kindness to family members.
