How can people say homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone

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Lou2U said:
Both homosexual and heterosexual acts can spread disease. Therefore, you cannot use the argument “homosexuality is harmful as it spreads diseases” because so can heterosexual acts. Additionally to this, homosexuality does not cause disease, *homosexual acts *can.

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I know, in fact, I said that in the OP. All types of sexual activity outside of what God commands spreads disease. You should know I’m aware of this because I said it in the OP.

Homosexual activity spreads disease. Why are you pretending that it doesn’'t?
 
Catholic13 said:
Homosexual activity spreads disease. Why are you pretending that it doesn’'t?
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So are you suggesting that because it can spread disease, it’s bad? If so, you would then also have to conclude that heterosexual activity is bad since it can spread disease, too.
 
Thorolfr said:
So are you suggesting that because it can spread disease, it’s bad? If so, you would then also have to conclude that heterosexual activity is bad since it can spread disease, too.
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I’m saying it harms society. Why won’t you be honest and admit it?😉
 
SMGS127 said:
Okay, I’ll bite.

How does homosexual activity between two gay male virgins spread disease?

How does homosexual activity by a woman spread disease?

Please back up your answer with citations by the CDC or similar organization as to how these are dangerous, disease-spreading situations 🙂
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Stop with the strawman arguments. 😃 Thanks pumpkin.
 
SMGS127 said:
That’s blatantly false. Most gays are monogamous.

Also, you should be extremely careful with your proportionalist attitude. A gay male couple who are both virgins upon entering into a civil marriage would also be completely disease-free. And lesbians virtually never transmit or obtain STDs. This does not mean that these sexual arrangements would still be moral. Whether or not something has the potentiality to cause disease or not does not influence the morality of an action.

Also, a married heterosexual couple can still spread STDs to each other (e.g. if one had a blood transfusion gone wrong). This does not mean that marital sex is immoral.
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Your pronounced bias is again showing. If the linked articles below from these pro-gay sites are to be believed, you are passing blatant misinformation on supposed prevalent monogamy among gays.

The Gay Male Couple’s Guide to Nonmonogamy

Facts about Nonmonogamy
Up to 2% of U.S. women identify as lesbian, and up to 4% of men identify as gay. … Broken down by sexual orientation among Vermont couples, a CNM (consensual nonmonogamy) agreement was had by 3.5% hetero couples, 5% lesbian couples, and up to 50% gay male couples. Yes, gay men are waaay more likely to practice CNM than everyone else.
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Thorolfr said:
“Yes, gay men are waaay more likely to practice CNM than everyone else”.

So shouldn’t we be encouraging gay men to practice monogamous relationships?
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Leave the thread please. You aren’t contributing anything to it. You never do. You’re only interested in pushing the gay agenda and steering good Catholics away from their beliefs.
 
Catholic13 said:
I know, in fact, I said that in the OP.
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Actually, you said that homosexuality spreads disease, which is highly inaccurate. Homosexuality means being attracted to the same gender, not having sex with a person of the same gender.
Catholic13 said:
All types of sexual activity outside of what God commands spreads disease.
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Do you have anything to back up your claim?
Catholic13 said:
You should know I’m aware of this because I said it in the OP.
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I know you think this, but as you have shown nothing to prove your claim, it is irrelevant.
Catholic13 said:
Homosexual activity spreads disease. Why are you pretending that it doesn’'t?
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I am assuming by “homosexual activity” you mean anal sex. If you are referring to this, then you should know that anal sex can also be performed by heterosexual couples, meaning that “heterosexual activity” also spreads disease.

Lou
 
Catholic13 said:
How can people say homosexuality doesn’t hurt anyone, when it does damage to society by spreading disease? :confused: In fact any type of sexual activity outside of committed marriages causes harm by spreading disease. Does anyone have any insight?
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The above is Post #1 of this thread. Given the title of the thread, the OP seems to have demolished his/her own basis of argument right here in Post #1.🤷
 
Lou2U said:
Actually, you said that homosexuality spreads disease, which is highly inaccurate. Homosexuality means being attracted to the same gender, not having sex with a person of the same gender.

Orientations can’t cause disease. You knew I meant sexual activity because I said it in the OP.

Do you have anything to back up your claim?

Homosexuals are the biggest group with AIDS at 52%. Homosexual activity spreads disease, fact.

I know you think this, but as you have shown nothing to prove your claim, it is irrelevant.

What is irrelevant ? that all types of sexual activity outside of what God commands spread disease?

I** am assuming by “homosexual activity” you mean anal sex. If you are referring to this, then you should know that anal sex can also be performed by heterosexual couples, meaning that “heterosexual activity” also spreads disease.**

Are you going to make a point? Everyone keeps pointing out that heterosexual activity outside of marriage spreads disease when I am fully aware of that fact. I clearly said that in the OP. WHat is your point though?
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Catholic13 said:
Why do so many gays cling to their sin like that? I try and distance myself from my sins and I certainly don’t defend them.:confused:
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This is perhaps one of the most troubling aspects of those who embrace their homosexual condition - inability to recognize it is wrong and thus repent of it. The Bible does say those who embrace homosexuality are arrogant who oppose God. It would appear threads like this demonstrate this reality.
 
Rau said:
The above is Post #1 of this thread. Given the title of the thread, the OP seems to have demolished his/her own basis of argument right here in Post #1.🤷
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How so? Are you attempting to engage me in obfuscation? I smell obfuscation in the air.
 
BrassAnkles said:
This is perhaps one of the most troubling aspects of those who embrace their homosexual condition - inability to recognize it is wrong and thus repent of it. The Bible does say those who embrace homosexuality are arrogant who oppose God. It would appear threads like this demonstrate this reality.
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Yes it is troubling. I believe that person “SMG” claims to be celibate but always rabidly defends homosexuality. I don’t get it. It’s sad.
 
Catholic13 said:
How so? Are you attempting to engage me in obfuscation? I smell obfuscation in the air.
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You’ve identified for your interlocutors their comeback. And most of the thread confirms that.

A related question. Why are there so few threads on the intrinsic evil of fornication, when, as you acknowledge, that too spreads disease? There are a great many people who don’t accept any wrong in fornication in the years prior to a (possible future) marriage. Many partners may be involved over time, sometimes in parallel. This is intrinsically evil too. Not so many threads though…why? Is it just less interesting?

You post #1 leads one to conclude that monogamy would be a sufficient means to avoid “spreading disease”. And indeed that is so. If you want to make an effective case against homosexual sexual relationships, you need to look beyond the spreading of disease.

I hope I’ve not piqued your olfactory senses again. 🙂
 
Catholic13 said:
Yes it is troubling. I believe that person “SMG” claims to be celibate but always rabidly defends homosexuality. I don’t get it. It’s sad.
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She eschews the intrinsic evil of sexual relationships between same sex partners, the only thing the Catechism finds sinful about homosexuality.

What more is it that you wish her to do to earn your respect?
 
Rau said:
You’ve identified for your interlocutors their comeback. And most of the thread confirms that.
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But it doesn’t nullify the damage caused by homosexuality. It also doesn’t refute my argument.

**A related question. Why are there so few threads on the intrinsic evil of fornication, when, as you acknowledge, that too spreads disease? **

Maybe it has something to do with homosexuals clinging to their sin at a much higher rate than heterosexual fornicators. And homosexuals asking that new laws be passed to honor their sins.

**You post #1 leads one to conclude that monogamy would be a sufficient means to avoid “spreading disease”. And indeed that is so. If you want to make an effective case against homosexual sexual relationships, you need to look beyond the spreading of disease. **

The fact that homosexual sexual relationships spread disease is an effective case.
 
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