How can people say homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone

[Thorolfr]

You and brass ankles missed my point.

Up until recently, 99% of LGBT people were the product of one mother and one father. Therefore, straight people create deviant LGBT people. How do you propose fixing that?

How come straight people are doing that?

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

Changes get made to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) all the time. Did you know, for example, that in the newest edition, they’ve added regular grief that someone might experience at the loss of a loved one and have categorized it as a Major Depressive Disorder. They’ve also changed the diagnosing criteria to make it easier to be diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. They will now treat the kinds of temper tantrums that some children have as a Disruptive Mood Dysregulation Disorder. Asperger’s Syndrome has been removed from the DSM and reclassified as a kind of Autism. The new edition has eliminated 5 of the ten personality disorders that were in the old edition, includidng Narcissistic Personality Disorder

All these changes in the DSM do not happen in a vacuum or always because of science. They often happen because of pressure from outside interest groups, including drug companies.

If changes to the DSM are caused by pressure from outside interest groups, then the changes have no scientific value and the American Psychiatric Association (who publishes the DSM) has no credibility at all.

Thank goodness homosexuality is no longer considered a mental disorder. Otherwise, gay people would probably still be subjected to electroshock treatments or aversion therapy or be put on psychiatric drugs of some sort.

That, my friend, is a double edged sword.

Since homosexuality has lost its designation as a mental disorder, it can only be considered an acquired or chosen disorder.

 

[Catholic13]

What does that have to do with glee?

So then why shouldn’t the unrepentant be warned that what they’re doing is wrong? This thread is not about the penitent. The penitent know what they’re doing is wrong. The unrepentant pretend what they’re doing is natural and normal.

 

[cena]

Here’s part of a paper presented at the 1970 meeting of the American Psychiatric Association by Dr. Nathaniel McConaghy at a program called “Issues on Sexuality” in which he expained his research in trying to wean homosexual men from their attractions to other men:

One group that made particular use of the aversion therapy technique of pornographic pictures and electric shocks to try and change the sexual orientation of gay men was the Association for the Advancement of Behavior Therapy.

Ronald Gold, one of the gay demonstrators who convinced the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders had himself been sent to psychiatrists from the age of 13. From the age of 24, he spent 18 months as a hospital patient and then another three and a half years as an outpatient at the Menninger Clinic in Kansas to try and be “cured” of his homosexuality. Bu they failed to “cure” him of his homosexuality.

Well that would not be ethical in the first place because looking at naked pictures of people is wrong. Pornography is a mortal sin.

The Church never said you had to go to therapy to become a heterosexual. One just has to not entertain homosexual thoughts or actions.

 

[sallybutler]

How come straight people are doing that?

Well, if it isn’t genetic, it must have been their parents.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

You and brass ankles missed my point.

Up until recently, 99% of LGBT people were the product of one mother and one father. Therefore, straight people create deviant LGBT people. How do you propose fixing that?

Firstly, Sally, I would ask where did the remaining 1% come from…the Stork?

Fixing the problem is simple. All science has to do is discover the “gay gene” or whatever the deviant parents are passing on to their deviant children. The the deviant parents can then CHOOSE to abort and soon the scourge of homosexuality will be wiped out.

 

[Thorolfr]

If changes to the DSM are caused by pressure from outside interest groups, then the changes have no scientific value and the American Psychiatric Association (who publishes the DSM) has no credibility at all.

I agree. I don’t think that psychiatry has much credibility.

That, my friend, is a double edged sword.

Since homosexuality has lost its designation as a mental disorder, it can only be considered an acquired or chosen disorder.

On the contrary. It can still be innate and have a biological origin and therefore not be acquired or chosen but also not be considered a mental disorder, but rather a perfectly normal sexual trait for some percentage of the population.

 

[BrassAnkles]

You and brass ankles missed my point.

Up until recently, 99% of LGBT people were the product of one mother and one father. Therefore, straight people create deviant LGBT people. How do you propose fixing that?

Homosexuality isn’t biological.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

Firstly, Sally, I would ask where did the remaining 1% come from…the Stork?

Fixing the problem is simple. All science has to do is discover the “gay gene” or whatever the deviant parents are passing on to their deviant children. The the deviant parents can then CHOOSE to abort and soon the scourge of homosexuality will be wiped out.

Are you trying to display your ignorance of Catholic theology, or are you trying to provoke an emotional response in order to get the other poster in trouble after realizing that doing so is the only way for you to defend your position?

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

On the contrary. It can still be innate and have a biological origin and therefore not be acquired or chosen but also not be considered a mental disorder, but rather a perfectly normal sexual trait for some percentage of the population.

That is true.

However there is no credible evidence or scientific breakthrough proving that homosexuality is innate. So we only have your claim that it may possibility be innate.

Don’t get me wrong, if proof is ever provided, Zoltan (homophobe) Cobalt will change his opinion.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

Are you trying to display your ignorance of Catholic theology, or are you trying to provoke an emotional response in order to get the other poster in trouble after realizing that doing so is the only way for you to defend your position?

Ignorance? In what way?

I only asked where the other 1% came from.

 

[SMGS127]

Firstly, Sally, I would ask where did the remaining 1% come from…the Stork?

Fixing the problem is simple. All science has to do is discover the “gay gene” or whatever the deviant parents are passing on to their deviant children. The the deviant parents can then CHOOSE to abort and soon the scourge of homosexuality will be wiped out.

How dare you.

How dare you, as a Catholic, advocate the abortion of any child, let alone the abortions of an entire class of children.

Abortion is a grave, grave evil.

 

[cena]

Firstly, Sally, I would ask where did the remaining 1% come from…the Stork?

Fixing the problem is simple. All science has to do is discover the “gay gene” or whatever the deviant parents are passing on to their deviant children. The the deviant parents can then CHOOSE to abort and soon the scourge of homosexuality will be wiped out.

I assumed this was a joke but if you’re serious this is very wrong. First, while homosexual actions are very wrong they are not wrong enough to receive the death penalty as a punishment. Secondly, you can not kill someone for stuff they have not done yet. Third, The Church never said that we need to wipe out homosexuals by killing them. All it says is to ‘wipe out’ the behavior.

I do not like homosexual actions but abortion is worse than homosexual actions.

 

[Catholic13]

How dare you.

How dare you, as a Catholic, advocate the abortion of any child, let alone the abortions of an entire class of children.

Abortion is a grave, grave evil.

How dare you try and misrepresent his response.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

How dare you.

How dare you, as a Catholic, advocate the abortion of any child, let alone the abortions of an entire class of children.

Abortion is a grave, grave evil.

As a Catholic I abhor abortion.

My statement does not in any way advocate abortion. The fact of the matter is that abortion happens and some Catholics have procured abortions.

A poster made an absurd statement about straight parents producing homosexual children. I replied with an absurdity. Notice the )).

I can understand your offense towards my statement because; in reality, gay activists do not want a biological cause of homosexuality to be found. If science were to identify a biological cause of homosexuality, that day would begin the “race for the cure.” And a great many purportedly happy homosexual men and women would secretly join that race.

 

[Catholic13]

As a Catholic I abhor abortion.

My statement does not in any way advocate abortion. The fact of the matter is that abortion happens and some Catholics have procured abortions.

A poster made an absurd statement about straight parents producing homosexual children. I replied with an absurdity. Notice the )).

I can understand your offense towards my statement because; in reality, gay activists do not want a biological cause of homosexuality to be found. If science were to identify
a biological cause of homosexuality, that day would begin the “race for the cure.” And a great many purportedly happy homosexual men and women would secretly join that race.

She knew darn well you weren’t being serious. There’s no way she missed the smiley face.

 

[sallybutler]

To answer the question, the 1% were those whose parent’s said they found them in the cabbage patch o

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

I assumed this was a joke but if you’re serious this is very wrong. First, while homosexual actions are very wrong they are not wrong enough to receive the death penalty as a punishment. Secondly, you can not kill someone for stuff they have not done yet. Third, The Church never said that we need to wipe out homosexuals by killing them. All it says is to ‘wipe out’ the behavior.

I do not like homosexual actions but abortion is worse than homosexual actions.

I agree with your entire statement.

However, if non-Catholic couples were informed that their baby would be homosexual, you would have to agree that some of them would consider abortion and even procure it.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

Since both catholic 13 and Zoltan Cobalt have seemed gleeful or sanguine about other abhorrent things, I didn’t interpret the “” as “I’m joking.”

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

To answer the question, the 1% were those whose parent’s said they found them in the cabbage patch o

A silly notion…everyone knows about the stork