How can we prove christianity?

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The proof of Christianity? Jesus’ resurrection from the dead. For if Christ be not raised from the dead we are lost and our faith means nothing for it would mean he was not who he claimed to be, not even a great teacher, but a fraud. That’s it. Nothing else need be added to accept it as the truth.
 
I want know, what is the formal way to prove that Christianity is the true religion.
Speaking with experience of Christians trying to prove Christianity, there is no knock-out argument. 🙂
 
The Buddha performed miracles, such as the Miracle of the Pairs, and ascended into the heavens to preach to the gods (and his reborn mother). You would do better to check before making blanket statements.

rossum
I apologize if I offended you, but I was joking. Muslims believe Muhammad ascended into heaven. Also, they believe that he “split the moon.” There are others too. I am not ignorant of other religions, and I do not make statements without first researching the other religions.

Also, Buddhists believe that the Buddha purified water that was otherwise dirty through a miracle. They also believed that he tamed an elephant that was going to trample a baby. There are others, too.

Again, I apologize if I offended you.
 
Well, Jesus performed miracles. He healed the sick, cast out demons, and fed the hungry. Buddha, Muhammad, Siyyid `Alí Muḥammad Shírází, and the others didn’t. That’s how you know. 👍
Jesus was prophesied. Jesus resurrected, the others are dead and buried…
 
Jesus was prophesied. Jesus resurrected, the others are dead and buried…
The Buddha was also prophesied, as is the Maitreya – the future Buddha. Everyone gets reborn; the fact that Jesus was reborn shows that He was not enlightened. The success of the Buddha was shown by his not being reborn. The point is to avoid being reborn.

Logic that works for Christianity does not always work for other religions. The prospect of eternal life is not an attractive one for Buddhists as eternal life is eternal suffering. The logic, and the premises underlying the logic, are different.

rossum
 
The Buddha was also prophesied, as is the Maitreya – the future Buddha. Everyone gets reborn; the fact that Jesus was reborn shows that He was not enlightened. The success of the Buddha was shown by his not being reborn. The point is to avoid being reborn.

Logic that works for Christianity does not always work for other religions. The prospect of eternal life is not an attractive one for Buddhists as eternal life is eternal suffering. The logic, and the premises underlying the logic, are different.

rossum
You must know very well that Jesus wasn’t “reborn” but resurrected from the dead. Jesus was only born once–incarnate of the Virgin Mary. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. It’s right there in all the creeds.
 
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I want know, what is the formal way to prove that Christianity is the true religion.

Lets think some one believes in God and believes that God may give religions to people, but he didn’t choose any religion yet. What is catholic formal way to prove that true religion is Christianity?

In addition, please introduce me some pdf book in internet that proves catholic beliefs for non-christians.
Christianity hinges on one fact: Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

If this is not true, then the rest is irrelevant.

How do we know that Jesus rose from the dead? Because several hundred eyewitnesses saw him alive after he was killed on a cross by Roman soldiers.

How do we know that they observed this? Because an infallible Church testifies that the written accounts of his resurrection are accurate.

How do we know that the Church is infallible? Because a historically accurate book tells us that this is what Jesus promised to build upon Peter the Rock.

And lest you fall prey to the “circular argument” argument, read on.

Proving Inspiration
catholic.com/library/Proving_Inspiration.asp

The Catholic method of proving the Bible to be inspired is this: The Bible is initially approached as any other ancient work. It is not, at first, presumed to be inspired. From textual criticism we are able to conclude that we have a text the accuracy of which is more certain than the accuracy of any other ancient work.

Next we take a look at what the Bible, considered merely as a history, tells us, focusing particularly on the New Testament, and more specifically the Gospels. We examine the account contained therein of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection.

Using what is in the Gospels themselves and what we find in extra-biblical writings from the early centuries, together with what we know of human nature (and what we can otherwise, from natural reason alone, know of divine nature), we conclude that either Jesus was just what he claimed to be—God—or he was crazy. (The one thing we know he could not have been was merely a good man who was not God, since no merely good man would make the claims he made.)

We are able to eliminate the possibility of his being a madman not just from what he said but from what his followers did after his death. Many critics of the Gospel accounts of the resurrection claim that Christ did not truly rise, that his followers took his body from the tomb and then proclaimed him risen from the dead. According to these critics, the resurrection was nothing more than a hoax. Devising a hoax to glorify a friend and mentor is one thing, but you do not find people dying for a hoax, at least not one from which they derive no benefit. Certainly if Christ had not risen, his disciples would not have died horrible deaths affirming the reality and truth of the resurrection. The result of this line of reasoning is that we must conclude that Jesus indeed rose from the dead. Consequently, his claims concerning himself—including his claim to be God—have credibility. He meant what he said and did what he said he would do.

Further, Christ said he would found a Church. Both the Bible (still taken as merely a historical book, not yet as an inspired one) and other ancient works attest to the fact that Christ established a Church with the rudiments of what we see in the Catholic Church today—papacy, hierarchy, priesthood, sacraments, and teaching authority.

We have thus taken the material and purely historically concluded that Jesus founded the Catholic Church. Because of his Resurrection we have reason to take seriously his claims concerning the Church, including its authority to teach in his name.

This Catholic Church tells us the Bible is inspired, and we can take the Church’s word for it precisely because the Church is infallible. Only after having been told by a properly constituted authority—that is, one established by God to assure us of the truth concerning matters of faith—that the Bible is inspired can we reasonably begin to use it as an inspired book.

A Spiral Argument

Note that this is not a circular argument. We are not basing the inspiration of the Bible on the Church’s infallibility and the Church’s infallibility on the word of an inspired Bible. That indeed would be a circular argument! What we have is really a spiral argument. On the first level we argue to the reliability of the Bible insofar as it is history. From that we conclude that an infallible Church was founded. And then we take the word of that infallible Church that the Bible is inspired. This is not a circular argument because the final conclusion (the Bible is inspired) is not simply a restatement of its initial finding (the Bible is historically reliable), and its initial finding (the Bible is historically reliable) is in no way based on the final conclusion (the Bible is inspired). What we have demonstrated is that without the existence of the Church, we could never know whether the Bible is inspired.

The advantages of the Catholic approach are two: First, the inspiration is really proved, not just “felt.” Second, the main fact behind the proof—the reality of an infallible, teaching Church—leads one naturally to an answer to the problem that troubled the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:30-31): How is one to know which interpretations are correct? The same Church that authenticates the Bible, that attests to its inspiration, is the authority established by Christ to interpret his word.
 
The Buddha performed miracles, such as the Miracle of the Pairs, and ascended into the heavens to preach to the gods (and his reborn mother). You would do better to check before making blanket statements.

rossum
I know little of Buddhism, but Wikipedia tells me this:

Some teachers tell students beginning Buddhist meditation that the notion of divinity is not incompatible with Buddhism,[8] and at least one Buddhist scholar has indicated that describing Buddhism as ‘non-theistic’ may be overly simplistic;[9] but many traditional theist beliefs are considered to pose a hindrance to the attainment of nirvana,[10] the highest goal of Buddhist practice.[11]

Jesus claimed to be God and backed it up by rising from the dead.

Not quite the same as your account of Buddha.
 
I know little of Buddhism, but Wikipedia tells me this:

Some teachers tell students beginning Buddhist meditation that the notion of divinity is not incompatible with Buddhism,[8] and at least one Buddhist scholar has indicated that describing Buddhism as ‘non-theistic’ may be overly simplistic;[9] but many traditional theist beliefs are considered to pose a hindrance to the attainment of nirvana,[10] the highest goal of Buddhist practice.[11]

Jesus claimed to be God and backed it up by rising from the dead.

Not quite the same as your account of Buddha.
Miracles are present in Buddhism, but are de-emphasised. They are a distraction that get in the way of the main task. The Buddha admonished some of his monks for performing too many miracles.

The point of Buddhism is not to rise from the dead. The First Noble Truth of Buddhism is that life is suffering, and the more lives you have the more you suffer:

[The Buddha said:]“What do you think, monks: Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating and wandering this long, long time — crying and weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — or the water in the four great oceans?”

“As we understand the Dhamma taught to us by the Blessed One, this is the greater: the tears we have shed while transmigrating and wandering this long, long time — crying and weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — not the water in the four great oceans.”

"Excellent, monks. Excellent. It is excellent that you thus understand the Dhamma taught by me.

“This is the greater: the tears you have shed while transmigrating and wandering this long, long time — crying and weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — not the water in the four great oceans.”

– Assu sutta, Samyutta Nikaya 15.3

Eternal life is eternal suffering.

The Buddha claimed to be enlightened and backed it up by not being reborn.

rossum
 
The point of Buddhism is not to rise from the dead.

Eternal life is eternal suffering.

The Buddha claimed to be enlightened and backed it up by not being reborn.

rossum
So, he proved himself to be right by doing the very thing that we would expect anyone who is not divine to do? Namely, to remain dead? Wow, that IS impressive. Who can argue with that logic?

“All of you are doomed to live over and over again until you get it right. I will prove that I’m right by not rising from the dead. Watch closely…”

Yep, he’s still dead. How’d he pull *that *off? I’m sold, rossum. :rolleyes:

Eternal Life spent in hell separated from a loving Father is eternal suffering, but eternal life spent gazing upon the infinite glory of an all-loving God is not.

Jesus backed it up by doing something that we would NOT expect…by dying on a cross and rising three days later.

Jesus’ tomb is empty; The Buddha’s is not. You tell me which is more impressive.
 
So, he proved himself to be right by doing the very thing that we would expect anyone who is not divine to do? Namely, to remain dead? Wow, that IS impressive. Who can argue with that logic?
He proved himself by doing that which anyone who is fully enlightened does – he avoided being reborn.

Within the logic of Buddhism, that is proof. Within the logic of Christianity it is not. You cannot logically prove Christianity by assuming Christianity from the start.
Eternal Life spent in hell separated from a loving Father is eternal suffering, but eternal life spent gazing upon the infinite glory of an all-loving God is not.
You are in a five-star hotel with all the luxuries you could wish for at hand. You are reclining in your massage chair while attentive servants feed you a delicious meal. As you eat, you gaze through the open door into the next room where your family are screaming in agony as they are being horribly tortured – electric shocks, fingernails torn out, acid poured on open wounds. You can see and hear them suffering hideously even as you are lying in the lap of luxury. The smell of their burnt flesh drifts through the open door. Are you happy?

As a Christian in heaven, you love your neighbours, as Jesus told you to. All of your neighbours. Even those neighbours of yours in hell. You love them all. Are you happy?

Would you be happy to see those you love being tortured for eternity?

Buddhism is not Christianity; you should not assume that commonplace assumptions of Christianity apply to Buddhism.

rossum
 
He proved himself by doing that which anyone who is fully enlightened does – he avoided being reborn.

Within the logic of Buddhism, that is proof. Within the logic of Christianity it is not. You cannot logically prove Christianity by assuming Christianity from the start.
Sorry, but this doesn’t answer the question: “How can we prove Christianity?” Nor does it prove anything about Buddhism except you accept it as true. OTOH, Jesus actually, physically and really rose from the dead. There were hundreds of witnesses to the historical fact. No one can prove that the Buddha attained Nirvana. That’s the point.
You are in a five-star hotel with all the luxuries you could wish for at hand. You are reclining in your massage chair while attentive servants feed you a delicious meal. As you eat, you gaze through the open door into the next room where your family are screaming in agony as they are being horribly tortured – electric shocks, fingernails torn out, acid poured on open wounds. You can see and hear them suffering hideously even as you are lying in the lap of luxury. The smell of their burnt flesh drifts through the open door. Are you happy?
As a Christian in heaven, you love your neighbours, as Jesus told you to. All of your neighbours. Even those neighbours of yours in hell. You love them all. Are you happy?
Would you be happy to see those you love being tortured for eternity?
This is an utterly untrue representation of what is means to be in heaven or in hell, and I think you know it. I doubt the Buddha would approve of people misrepresenting the teachings of others faiths, yes?
Buddhism is not Christianity; you should not assume that commonplace assumptions of Christianity apply to Buddhism.
No one here has that I have seen. 🤷
 
Jesus said, “The words that I have spoken to you are Spirit and Life.” Also, John 17:20 “I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word.”

Finally, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”

**So, to answer your question from the above, we must speak the words of Jesus through the Spirit and the proof is given by God to the hearer as Faith.
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Sorry, but this doesn’t answer the question: “How can we prove Christianity?” Nor does it prove anything about Buddhism except you accept it as true. OTOH, Jesus actually, physically and really rose from the dead. There were hundreds of witnesses to the historical fact.
Allegedly. 😉
 
Sorry, but this doesn’t answer the question: “How can we prove Christianity?” Nor does it prove anything about Buddhism except you accept it as true. OTOH, Jesus actually, physically and really rose from the dead. There were hundreds of witnesses to the historical fact. No one can prove that the Buddha attained Nirvana. That’s the point.
There were 80,000 witnesses to Vimalakirti feeding 80,000 people from a single bowl of rice. Every religion has scriptures, complete with miracles and with large crowds of witnesses. Such claims cannot prove one religiin over another.
This is an utterly untrue representation of what is means to be in heaven or in hell, and I think you know it.
Are people in hell suffering? Do people in heaven know that the people in hell are suffering? Do people in heaven love all their neighbours or just some of them? Could you be happy knowing that someone you love is suffering? Could you be happy knowing that you are eternally separated from someone you love?
I doubt the Buddha would approve of people misrepresenting the teachings of others faiths, yes?
How does my short summary above misrepresent Christianity?

rossum
 
There were 80,000 witnesses to Vimalakirti feeding 80,000 people from a single bowl of rice. Every religion has scriptures, complete with miracles and with large crowds of witnesses. Such claims cannot prove one religiin over another.
Seeing a person who was brutally killed standing alive and well before you is just a little more important than miracles of multiplication.
Are people in hell suffering? Do people in heaven know that the people in hell are suffering? Do people in heaven love all their neighbours or just some of them? Could you be happy knowing that someone you love is suffering? Could you be happy knowing that you are eternally separated from someone you love?
All who are in hell have chosen to be there. I may love someone, but I also have to let them decide their own destiny for themselves. Are we to be held hostage to those who chose evil instead of good and truth for all eternity? No, we aren’t.
How does my short summary above misrepresent Christianity?
People in heaven are not lounging around eating luxurious food and being pampered. They are enjoying the Beatific Vision. Those in hell are putting themselves through their own misery by rejecting love, truth, beauty, good etc. for selfishness after doing what they knew was evil. Your analogy was a gross misrepresentation. But this part of the discussion is off topic. I suggest you start a new thread if you want to pursue it further. I’ll join in.
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Alledgedly
Yes, as seen by those who were there. Jesus appeared alive for forty days after his resurrection. He was seen by hundreds of people over that time.
 
Yes, as seen by those who were there. Jesus appeared alive for forty days after his resurrection. He was seen by hundreds of people over that time.
To which the polite response of a non-believer might well be (again): “allegedly.”
 
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