How can you be Democratic and also be Catholic?

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I’d rather be a pro-choice Democrat than a white supremacist Republican
I know absolutey no white supremacist Republicans. It is wrong to label anyone this unless you know absolutely positively that in their hearts and minds they are white supremacists.

to do that is:
Democrats are more compatible with Christian values
not Christian
 
You don’t know any white supremacist Republicans personally? Here you go:

Google

Or you could Google the Republican “Southern Strategy” and how they converted racist white Democrats into the Republican Party
 
And I should believe those liberal pro democrat media sites during an election year because…?

In order for me to believe you, you would need to provide many Republican websites with politicians stating “we believe in white supremacy”
 
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And I should believe those liberal pro democrat media sites during an election year because…
Same could be said about anything.
That’s why we listen first and judge the claim on its own merits alone.
Attacking the source is a logical fallacy for a reason.
 
Attacking the source is a logical fallacy for a reason.
I did not attack the sources but listened with caution because of the political side they stand on.

As I have said many times, you can say a person committed a white supremacist or racist act but to label someone or label a political party white supremacist or racist requires a lot of evidence and proof. We ca not read another person’s heart.
 
Just out of curiosity do you live in the south. Have you spent much time down south.

I dont need a republican leaning website to tell me what I have seen my entire life.

It is easy to see why so many wont admit the obvious for many other issues. Well I didn’t here or see it sonic dont believe it.
 
Just out of curiosity do you live in the south. Have you spent much time down south.
No, I live in the north and I have seen racism from both republicans and democrats. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even know many republicans growing up. The racism I saw was from die hard democrats. So what I am saying is racism doesn’t know party lines.
Since you asked for a Republican stating his views on his party
Just make sure you quote Senator McCollister completely:

The Republican Party is enabling white supremacy in our country. As a lifelong Republican, it pains me to say this, but it’s the truth.

I of course am not suggesting that all Republicans are white supremacists nor am I saying that the average Republican is even racist.


enabling is different than being.

Govenor Ricketts states in the article: “White supremacy and racism have no place in our country, and they must be driven out. I have said this repeatedly and will say it again and again,” Ricketts tweeted. “Contrary to baseless accusations made on social media, the Republican Party does not tolerate such hateful views.”
 
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It just shows that a lot of Republicans silently support white supremacy, not all, but a sizable amount. I can’t support that in any form. I’d support a woman ending her pregnancy after being sexually assaulted over white racists. A woman being forced into sex shouldn’t be forced more to go through 9 months of pregnancy (not to mention the risk of miscarriage and the loss of her life i.e. maternal mortality)

It’s not pro-life, it’s forced-birth (regardless of the consequences for the mother)
 
Because the Church says it does, of course. Why does Church teaching mandate opposition to legal abortion, or legal gay marriage? Why can’t Catholics simply say that they agree those things are wrong, but that they are not obliged to support specific government policies against them? If its not enough for a Catholic to just not get an abortion or get gay married, why is it not enough for a Catholic to respond similarly to all of the many other Catholic moral issues?
The church has no authority to tell me that I have to agree with food stamps. But it can tell me to help feed the hungry. My wife and I give hundreds of pounds of fresh veggie and fruit every year to the food bank. We just start raising chickens and will have about 14 dozen egg each week. Some of those will go to family and friends but 6 to 8 dozen will go to the food bank if they take them. If everyone did what my wife and I do, there would be no hunger in the USA.

I have watched the federal government spend trillions of dollars to solve all the social ills. Yet today those issues are still just as bad if not worse. Biden is running for the white house on the promise he will fix things, things he hasn’t fixed in 47 years.
 
It just shows that a lot of Republicans silently support white supremacy,
No it doesn’t. It just shows that a moderate republican who rejects a lot of the republican platform says he thinks, without showing any evidence, that the republican party enables people who are racist.

It says nothing about racism in the democratic party or the history of racism in the democratic party or any other third party or racism in people who do not care a thing about politics.
I’d support a woman ending her pregnancy after being sexually assaulted over white racists
There are way more reasons women have for abortions than being raped.

Also, since racism knows no party lines, you would support the murder of unborn babies based on one man’s Twitter comment.
 
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Democrats are more compatible with Christian values like caring for the sick.
which Christian values do these Dem policies fit into?

by voting for a Democrat, you enable the entire LGBT agenda, euthanasia, embryonic
stem cell research, transgenderism, identity politics, the destruction of the family, contraception, socialism, breaking the seal of the confession, federal funds to pay for abortions, forced abortions in Catholic hospitals, the selection of liberal judges who will uphold these policies, etc

there is more than one way to solve social ills, the unborn that are killed don’t have any options.
No, my vote for Biden supports the rule of law and honesty and sanity in government.
Biden and honesty? look at his history, he has his issues with it.

what about the abortion laws Biden pledges to enact? I guess they just don’t count.

God have mercy on the unborn.
I can’t support that in any form.
do you support it in the democrat party? they have their share of racists.
I’d support a woman ending her pregnancy after being sexually assaulted over white racists.
The church doesn’t
Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute.
do you support the other 98.5% of abortions? The Democrats do.
I have watched the federal government spend trillions of dollars to solve all the social ills. Yet today those issues are still just as bad if not worse.
all the feds have done is destroy the family unit with their marriage penalty.
 
I have watched the federal government spend trillions of dollars to solve all the social ills. Yet today those issues are still just as bad if not worse.
That’s not surprising. Modern capitalist economies increasingly tend to direct wealth to a smaller and smaller segment. 🤷‍♂️
 
There is no viable alternative to capitalism.

It is an imperfect system, but it works.
 
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Dovekin:
How do you think your denial of a woman’s rights furthers the anti-abortion cause? Do you think it will help us outlaw abortion? How?
To which right of women are you referring?
That would be the right to bodily integrity. That is the question from the pro-choice perspective.
 
The decision to support a government policy is a prudential judgement. It involves weighing whether the policy implemented will likely do more harm than good. While it is indisputable that abortion is bad, it does not follow that any all possible government policy with the aim of ending abortion should be supported.
OK, at least that is a consistent response. Of course, if you are correct about Catholic teaching in that area, that is simply one more reason that Catholics are not compelled to always support the GOP over the Dems - Catholics can make that prudential judgment as to abortion and gay rights, just as they can as to poverty, immigration, the environment, worker’s rights, universal destination of goods, and all the rest.
 
Because that would be working with those who enable such things. It would be morally wrong.
Then it is morally wrong as to the long list of other issues. Conservatives can’t claim this applies to one (or two) issues, and not to the rest of Catholic teaching. The Church doesn’t teach that (and actually teaches the opposite).
 
Because all those other issues involve practical judgments, not moral choices.
Do they? The Church teaches that they are all moral choices. And the judgment that the best way to reduce abortion is to make it illegal is surely a practical judgment, as is the same judgment for gay rights. The Church doesn’t teach anywhere that those two issues are the only ones that matter, or that all other issues are reduced to “practical judgments.” A Catholic can decide for himself that those two issues outweigh all other issues, but the Church says all the issues must be weighed. To say that only those issues matter, whether for voting or anything else, is simply not consistent with Catholic teaching.
 
As a minority, the only racism I have ever experienced has been from democrats. This whole “GOP are white supremacists” thing is total nonsense.
 
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