How lovely, holden. Thank you for sharing that. You surely must know that many on this website are praying for you. Please know that you will NEVER find all answers to all questions; nor need you do so! As Our Lord promised, “My grace is sufficient to thee.” God bless you.
I think the Pope would first need to commit some act or say something which in effect made his Papacy invalid. I’m not entirely sure who has the authority to tell the Pope that he’s fallen into such error. Given that the Pope does the appointments to the College of Cardinals, the Curia and the Bishops its also difficult to see how any of them could act to remove him as if he were a normal Head of State.
Good point. Thank You for the prayers. Perhaps it was those that helped me.
I know however that the prayers of St. Jude and the Blessed Theotokos are what helped me as well.Well, I am glad that the form users don’t believe what those who run the website believe. If you click here, you can go to the site and read up on some of the things I referred to. Of course, not everything at Fish Eaters is wrong. I am simply speaking of their opposition to Vatican II and the NO mass. IMHO if a group can “cafeteria-style” choose to accept some things and at the same time reject other things that God’s Church teaches, I personally don’t turn to them for info on anything related to the Church. That is me however, and I can understand if you don’t feel the same way. God bless.
The “wolves” mentioned were not a reference to the Magisterium or those who participated in V2. I suppose that when the Holy Father declares Vatican II a mistake and announces that the Church will revert back to pre-Vatican II practices, I will agree with you. However, I think that you will have to admit that this will never come to be, so perhaps, you and I should simply agree that we will never agree on the issue of the Church’s authority vs. man’s authority concerning this subject. God bless.
Haha, calling FishEaters “cafeteria-style”. How ironic.
I’ll let their essays speak for themselves. Should you use the link I provided earlier you’ll find the essays. One of many being the Dictionary of Dissent. LOL I find it laughable, that you find it ironic, that I find FishEaters a cafeteria-style website. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…
Uh, Pope Honorius was declared a heretic by an Ecumenical Council. That is not just “the East”. You need to learn some history. Joe
Not sure how true this is but I’ve heard it said that when a Pope dies suddenly, it is the Holy Spirit preventing the church from going astray because of false doctrine.
A Pope can certainly be deposed; the Catholic Church has experienced this from time to time, like for instance the Western Schism when Popes and anti-Popes would depose one another. Of course, one could say that the anti-Popes weren’t real Popes, but given the context of the time then, they acted in good faith and thought themselves to be the successor to Peter, thus exercising their power to depose another bishop. A Council can depose a Pope as well, since the Pope is a bishop, and just like any bishop can be deposed if he is in error and will not recant of such an error.
He ceases to be such, and a Council deposing him would formalize what is known de facto That would be the most prudent rather than lead the Catholic Church into error with him.
This has never happened: that’s why I say it’s all theory. Admittedly St. Robert Bellarmine wrote that one may resist a pope who would destroy the Church, but there has never been a case of a living pope deposed. Some believe that the college of cardinals could declare that the pope has become a manifest heretic and abdicated his office-- again, all theory.
Doesn’t anyone have faith that God would never allow it to come to this? It is, after all, His Church and Christ has already told us that it will prevail til the end. God bless.
I didn’t post what you quoted me as saying, and you know it. You might want to retract that-- unless you think Benedict XVI gave you license to lie on this forum.