How far is too far for dressing?

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You’d be surprised.

On second thought, you’d be horrified.

I’m just glad I’m not a near occasion of sin. At least in that regard…
 
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FCS said:
Tight shirts/no shirts can often tempt women to lust.
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I never knew this, i knew they can find it attractive though never thought it could drive them to lust. I feel people especially single people dress a certain way to attract the opposite sex which is why these clothes are so popular. I wear form fitting tight shirts and t shirts regularly because i just thought they look nice but never actually thought it could cause others to sin
 
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Another question is should we wear clothes that doesn’t allow someone to lust, is it our obligation? I see so many people draw the line at different areas. Also does what context it is in change what we can wear? For example i could wear just shorts at the beach but i wouldn’t walk around my house with just boxers if strangers were around. The same with women, beaches here they are walking around the place with bikinis yet they they wouldn’t walk around their house in their underwear if strangers were there. The thing is context doesn’t change what our eyes see but somehow our minds find it acceptable
 
It is your conviction, but it is not always the case in real life.

Try to be bare arms in some muslins countries, you will see quickly you have no right to them.

More close to us as Catholics, we don’t have the right to bare arms in the Vatican, because it is contrary to the written code by this state. And if you go here, I think you will agree to wear at least short sleeves, even in the summer.
 
Ok, thanks you, I would have appreciate to know you have created this document, for eg, is that was a dress code commonly shared some decades ago, in one cultural area?
 
Aren’t Americans the only ones with the right to bare (bear) arms? It was a pun meant for an American audience… My apologies to posters from other countries.
As St Ambrose said when in Rome do as the Romans-or word to that effect.
Those rules are for churches in Vatican City right?
 
Ok @Mi_Rose,

thanks you for the clarification, I hadn’t understand the pun at first! 😄
No, I am not American…

(Your conviction is not that we have the right to bear arms in Church, isn’t it?).

For thoses rules, I don’t know myself it is only for the Vatican Church or all the Vatican…
If someone can clarify, it would be helpfull!
 
The way another poster put it on this forum a few years ago…you also got to watch what men you’re dealing. Some guys aren’t stumbling so much as jumping in with both feet. If a man’s got no respect for women, he’s going to stare no matter what a woman’s wearing. Some men are just going to talk to the chest no matter what, if you’ve got one, because that’s what they’re out looking for.
 
Where I lived (France), people are generally dressed correctly in churches. Many churches are ancient ones in stones and fresh in summer. Not always, but in general yes. It is not the case in all europeans people/countries. Sometimes climate and hot concrete churches can be a partial explanation (Spain), and sometimes not, there is a cultural gap (Holland and Northern Europe for eg).

Your need of wearing shorts in churches is understandable. Like myself, when I have to ride up some of my clothes because I have to breastfeed my children. It is that or my family have to miss mass for years.
When I see people with lights close I don’t think it is frequently because of an imperative like yours.
What made me particularly angry is when I received, for youths catholic gatherings, a notification from organizers of a dress code counseling strongly people to wear cropped trousers versus short and tee shirt with short sleeves vs sleeveless top, because we go to churches. Quite normal. But when we are there, the same people who send us the dress codes, wear shorts and sleeveless.

I know that I judge people, but it is dificult for me, to not have instinctive reactions.
And that’s probable that I would have judge you if I had seen you in Churches without knowing you.
 
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What is acceptable for dress is highly subjective, people and culture dependant.

However,
Like many of us, you see women with shorts frequently. But it is not an argument. The majority has not always right.

I strongly disagree that shorts does not display more figure than trousers. Obviously, trousers cover completely legs while shorts discover the skin. The shape is not the only parameter to take in consideration. And trousers are not all tights, even if theses are currently fashionable for women.
Skirts are not all equal to shorts. Certainely I don’t like short skirts. But some are more longer, and some are even up to ankle.
 
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That’s pretty awkward, since I would fall under the last picture. I have the body of a 12 year old, though, so for some reason I get away with it even during Mass.

I would imagine women with bigger curves would have serious issues finding pants or skirts that don’t make their butt stick out though
 
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What do women feel about men dressing immodestly? Is there really such a thing? Are we invoking lust when we wear tank tops or just wearing shorts at the beach? I do feel modesty goes both ways, obviously it’s much more fashionable for women to expose more in todays society but i do wonder if we men are oblivious to what we do ourselves?
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Yeah, women do lust when men expose themselves.

I’m sure it wouldn’t be that surprising. Look at all the middle age women wooing when a young actor takes his shirt off, for instance. Or teenage girls lusting after Taylor Lautner in the twilight series. You get the idea.
 
When you’re a child, your clothes are a bit more casual (but still respectful) than an adult’s would be.

I dress like a lady. My late maternal grandmother and I had the same taste in clothes. Tasteful, respectful, nothing revealing.
 
Lea101 said:
I would imagine women with bigger curves would have serious issues finding pants or skirts that don’t make their butt stick out though
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I mean, at some point…what sticks out sticks out. More chest than rear for me. But clothes aren’t going to fundamentally hide the shape of the woman underneath, unless we take to wearing petticoats and corsets and whatnot.
 
Anicette said:
Try to be bare arms in some muslins countries, you will see quickly you have no right to them.
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Well, it’s not like she did something indecent, like [*shudder*] flashing her ankles 😱😜:roll_eyes:. . .
Mi_Rose said:
Aren’t Americans the only ones with the right to bare (bear) arms?
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FWIW, my sister in law told me that the reason american women shave their armpits, and europeans don’t, is that sleeveless dresses never caught on over there like they did here . . .
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I couldn’t get out of my sweatshirt the other day. It wasn’t really tight.
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I couldn’t get into a pair of boots the other day.

So I didn’t buy them! 😜🤣 [a couple of pairs where apparently they didn’t use enough upper for the size–I really couldn’t get the ball of my foot through. They guy at the counter pointed out that there’s significant variation when they make them by hand . . . but it can be more than two sizes!]

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