How giving is too much?

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Someone very close and very dear to me said that I’m giving to much and too concerned with making others happy. I have heard this from a couple of other people as well. So where does giving and doing for other become too much? Also I know my drive to help others comes from me feeling overly blessed and I somehow need balance it out again. Is it wrong to think that God has given me too much when I myself haven’t really begone to do anything in life yet?
 
If your “very close and very dear” someone is your spouse, then she may be feeling neglected. Ditto for the others if they are family.

So take a close look at what you are doing. If you are neglecting your family, then you need to get some balance.
 
If your “very close and very dear” someone is your spouse, then she may be feeling neglected. Ditto for the others if they are family.

So take a close look at what you are doing. If you are neglecting your family, then you need to get some balance.
Well no I’m not married it was a girlfriend and upset that was putting her happiness and others above my own.
 
Someone very close and very dear to me said that I’m giving to much and too concerned with making others happy. I have heard this from a couple of other people as well. So where does giving and doing for other become too much? Also I know my drive to help others comes from me feeling overly blessed and I somehow need balance it out again. Is it wrong to think that God has given me too much when I myself haven’t really begone to do anything in life yet?
I can personally relate, carguy. I am a very generous person and care very little for my own needs. I think in terms of money, it is important to make sure you have enough to live, so that you aren’t giving away so much that you need charity yourself. In other things, I think mostly people need to realize this is who you are. You get joy in giving to others and making them happy. Do you have things you wish others would do for you? Of course.

I’d ask your girlfriend for more information on what her concerns are. Is it financial? Is it time? Is it attention? Part of the problem could be her personality is conflicting with your nature. For example, she could be someone who feels most loved when a person she cares about spends time with her. Well, if your working 8 hours a day, sleeping 7, and giving away another 7 (in service to others), doesn’t leave a lot of time for her; which leads to her feeling unloved.

I don’t think there is really an absolute of giving too much. I know one person who is very well off who gives away 90% of his income and lives on 10%; but he is in a position to be able to do so and his wife is a generous person also, so it brings them both great joy.
 
First, one must be prudent, which means one must fulfill one’s obligations first. When it comes to girlfriends, this is anperiod of discernment for marriage, so if you neglect your gf, she may feel that you would neglect your family, right?

Second, one should not be so giving ng that one causes harm, either. Taking care of things which are the responsibility of others when they are fully capable of doing it themselves can feel stifling to the healthy, and can undermine the irresponsible’s need to learn the lesson of responsibility.

And third, we should not be so giving that we enable others to be bad.

So, how does this work in real life? First, we take of our obligations: we do not give away so much money that we can’t pay our rent; we don’t give away so much of our time that we neglect our obligations to God or to others; we don’t endanger those whom we are obliged to protect.

We might help a friend who has experienced some bad luck, but we do not pay his rent while he is being a couch potato instead of looking for work. We do not give money to an alcoholic relative so that he can go iut and drink, but we do if he is actually trying to stop.
 
I will speak to her to get a better understanding. But I do know in college my grades suffered cause I was more worried about trying learn things out of my field to help my friends pass. It’s that I’m in a position of want or not going out of my way for her but more that they are worried its unhealthy that I’m teathering my happiness to others. That I need to “be happy with myself before I can make others happy.”
 
But I do know in college my grades suffered cause I was more worried about trying learn things out of my field to help my friends pass.
Now that’s just dumb! You (or your parents) were investing money in your education, and instead of studying for your own classes, you studied for your friends! :eek:

If this is a pattern, you might want to change it. If you don’t, you may not have a girlfriend for long.
 
If someone says this to you it means that they have watched you take on too much at the expense of something in your life. Before you say yes to others needs try to evaluate what might get left behind in your life. A relationship where one dies all the sacrificing and all the giving is not always the best answer. You need to count your blessings as you’ve stated but you also need to recognize that sometimes we need to let others do the same and take over for us.
 
A relationship where one does all the sacrificing and all the giving is not always the best answer. You need to count your blessings as you’ve stated but you also need to recognize that sometimes we need to let others do the same and take over for us.
Amen to that! When our daughter got her first job she took us out to dinner. When the check came my husband tried to pay the check. They went back & forth until I finally told him to shut up & let her pay. She wanted to be the grown up & he wanted to take that away from her. Those who do “too much” for others tend to be controllers.
 
Amen to that! When our daughter got her first job she took us out to dinner. When the check came my husband tried to pay the check. They went back & forth until I finally told him to shut up & let her pay. She wanted to be the grown up & he wanted to take that away from her. Those who do “too much” for others tend to be controllers.
I’m Starting to see what they mean. I do push to do too much
 
I will speak to her to get a better understanding. **But I do know in college my grades suffered cause I was more worried about trying learn things out of my field to help my friends pass. **It’s that I’m in a position of want or not going out of my way for her but more that they are worried its unhealthy that I’m teathering my happiness to others. That I need to “be happy with myself before I can make others happy.”
Can you see that this (bolded) was too much because 1. you neglected the obligations of your state in life? 2. that you took on the responsibility which was actually that of your friends to study subjects which you were not enrolled in? 3. that by taking on that responsibility you actully kept your friends from maturing, which in the long run was not good for them?

Part of the growing-up process is setting prioroties and saying no. When your friend comes and tells you he has an exam for which he is unprepared, you have to stick to your priority of finishing your paper which is due the next day. That sort of thing.
 
Someone very close and very dear to me said that I’m giving to much and too concerned with making others happy. I have heard this from a couple of other people as well. So where does giving and doing for other become too much? Also I know my drive to help others comes from me feeling overly blessed and I somehow need balance it out again. Is it wrong to think that God has given me too much when I myself haven’t really begone to do anything in life yet?
When it can become too much is when one isn’t taking care of his own needs, not tending adequately to his own health, needs, and those of his family in order to give to others. This is especially true when the people receiving don’t want, or don’t need, won’t appreciate or use the gifts/services.

I heard of a case where a lady gave so much to charity that she couldn’t meet her own needs, and the charity basically did something like sue her for the check she wrote, renegged on. Again, not your case, but to give examples to help illustrate some cases when giving CAN be overdone.

I’ve had people push things on me, and when I don’t want their “help”, get angry (not saying it’s your particular case), just one of many.

In a relationship, it’s helpful to have balance with both parties doing the work, not one doing it all. If one is always doing all the work, it creates an imbalance in THAT relationship.

Further giving and giving and giving, never receiving, can create resentment over time.
It can also create an unhealthy dependency, in some people. With some, if you give and give, and one day decide not to give, they can get really “put out”, angry.

It also depends on HOW one gives. If one goes downtown and indiscriminately gives to everyone and anyone, that, to me, would not be good. Well, some people downtown on skidrow are there because they have addictions, and many people have usually tried to help them, but for whatever reason(s), it wasn’t enough. These people still haven´t fallen far enough to want to change.

If you give these people help, in the form of cash, they will only use that for their alcohol, drugs, etc., and instead of being helped, can be actually hurt.

With giving, it’s preferable to “teach a person to fish” rather than give him the fish, where possible.

It can be helpful to ask what our motivation is in giving. If the motivation is to get attention, that would, also, not be good (again, NOT saying it’s your case, but to try to answer your question as to when giving is too much).

If we give to get something, that can, in some cases, also be wrong, but not always.

If we are giving so much where we are using our money that needs to go for our own families for others, that’s not okay. If we are spending so much time giving that our families are suffering from neglect, likewise, not okay.

If we aren’t resting enough, suffering from burnout, ourselves, then the giving has gotten out of hand.

Sometimes, we can try to please others, but I suppose we need to walk a fine line insofar as when that becomes too much, too.

I remember one priest suggesting that, instead of just handing panhandlers downtown, cash, to pay for a student’s books, say, to help someone get an education.

If we chronically need to give, ignoring our own needs, to “rescue” others from their problems, instead of allowing them to try to handle at least some, themselves, codependency could also be an issue.

With codependency, we can have sort of a like a need to be needed. If this is within healthy parameters, all well and good, but if not, not.

With Christmas giving is HUGE! Sometimes, we feel the need to spend, spend, spend, and spend. Some max out the credit cards, go into debt, become all stressed out, and for what?

A priest I know does a homily, every year, about Christmas spending. He tells us we don´t need to go into debt, spend a lot, to have a nice Christmas, that often times, we would be just as happy, if not happier, with a simple meal instead of having the finest wines and more.

I just got back from WalMart, and the rush happens from before Halloween to Christmas each year. People get REALLY stressed out. The closer it gets to the holidays, the worse it is. I have a friend who goes to the mall around holiday time just to watch the chaos, says to himself, “Glad that’s not me!”

At times, we can give, almost to buy love and affection, as if feeling if we don´t, we would be unworthy in and of ourselves.

If we give a lot with expectations, “strings”, then that’s another potential example of problematic giving.

So, actually, there are numerous reason why, and how, giving can go over the top, be it with cash, or volunteering, or whatever. Generally, I’d say if it is somehow adversely affecting oneself, one’s family, or even the person receiving (by creating a dependency, for example), then it would be more prudent to actually…give less.
 
We have to pay attention to our “station” in life. If one is married, with children, one really can’t do a St. Francis and give up all his worldly goods, and expect the rest of his family to be on board with this.

If one is by himself, he can do this. If he has other responsibilities, those must be taken into account. He needs to not only make sure basic needs of food, clothing and shelter are met but more…emotional and mental needs.

Does the family have a savings account in case of emergencies, life and health, if possible dental 🙂 , something for retirement would be good, where possible.
 
Oh yeah, when I studied social work, they talked a lot about burnout and how, when one is constantly giving, giving, giving, be it as a caretaker or social worker, one has to make sure he takes care of himself very well. If not, he can burn out, and if that happens through giving excessively and not tending to his own needs, he will not be any good to himself, or to anybody else (potentially).
 
Now that’s just dumb! You (or your parents) were investing money in your education, and instead of studying for your own classes, you studied for your friends! :eek:

If this is a pattern, you might want to change it. If you don’t, you may not have a girlfriend for long.
Let’s be nice, shall we? We can try to make a point, about codependency, without name calling, “dumb”, “stupid”, etc. If we do it without name calling, I think we will also be much more persuasive.
 
Let’s be nice, shall we? We can try to make a point, about codependency, without name calling, “dumb”, “stupid”, etc. If we do it without name calling, I think we will also be much more persuasive.
As bright as I am I’m also an idiot 😛
 
Let’s be nice, shall we?
I didn’t say he was dumb, but what he did was. He wasted - at least partially - his opportunity for an education. So let’s read more carefully, too.

I do dumb things, too. Most of us do. But it doesn’t do to call ourselves or others names.
 
I didn’t say he was dumb, but what he did was. He wasted - at least partially - his opportunity for an education. So let’s read more carefully, too.

I do dumb things, too. Most of us do. But it doesn’t do to call ourselves or others names.
I understood what was said, that you referring to the action, not him.

Sometimes, it can hurt someone’s feelings. A lot of the people on the forum are strangers, and I believe it preferable to err on the side of caution, avoid words like “dumb” and “stupid” be it whether talking about the person, or his actions.

Although actions can seem “dumb” to us, it probably doesn´t seem that way to the person. If it did, he probably wouldn´t do them. To the person, they seem acceptable for whatever reason(s), hard as it may sometimes be for us to understand.

I do “dumb” things, too, but I would just be preferable to usecharity, use some other word is all.

If ya all want to continue this way, though, your call. I just find that with some folks, this can be “fighting” words, and best to avoid, phrase in another way that would be more persuasive.

This time, it worked out well that the OP was understanding, but it can backfire, so usually best to err on the side of caution in the future, using insofar as possible, tact, diplomacy, and charity, empathy. Just my 2 cents, for whatever that is worth.
 
I remember once telling my sister I liked to volunteer. She used to say that was “stupid” or “dumb” or I forget what. Mainly what I heard was that. She could have rephrased it, said, “Why don´t you work for pay, instead?”, and I would have been more willing to listen to her case.
 
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