How hell could possibly be justified?

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This is confusing, are you making it up?
No it is the established philosophy we read from St. Thomas Aquinas about the soul and body. Christians believe in the resurrection of the body at the General Judgment.
 
No it is the established philosophy we read from St. Thomas Aquinas about the soul and body. Christians believe in the resurrection of the body at the General Judgment.
Why the body would be needed after death?
 
Why the body would be needed after death?
A person is a composite of both soul and body. One without the other leaves a incomplete person. We are just as much physical beings as we are spiritual. The soul cannot function as a person without the body. But we will be given new bodies at the Resurrection that is unlike what we have now.
 
A person is a composite of both soul and body. One without the other leaves a incomplete person. We are just as much physical beings as we are spiritual. The soul cannot function as a person without the body.
After we die we leave our bodies behind, then we go to a spiritual place, then at resurrection we would need our bodies because here on Earth in this material and physical world we functioned that way? But in the hereafter, wouldn’t you think that it would be illogical to consider that the body would be needed, right? Where does the soul stay before the resurrection of our bodies and the judgement day? why would even the body be needed in the hereafter, us being now on earth both body and soul isn’t a sufficient answer.
 
After we die we leave our bodies behind, then we go to a spiritual place, then at resurrection we would need our bodies because here on Earth in this material and physical world we functioned that way? But in the hereafter, wouldn’t you think that it would be illogical to consider that the body would be needed, right? Where does the soul stay before the resurrection of our bodies and the judgement day? why would even the body be needed in the hereafter, us being now on earth both body and soul isn’t a sufficient answer.
I could be incorrect, but its my understanding that the Resurrection happens immediately after you die. I don’t no about a “Spiritual place”. A place is a physical concept.
 
I could be incorrect, but its my understanding that the Resurrection happens immediately after you die. I don’t no about a “Spiritual place”. A place is a physical concept.
Doesn’t it happen at judgement day and the end of the world.
 
Doesn’t it happen at judgement day and the end of the world.
Well the end of the world is far away for people who are alive and are a part of the temporal order. But for somebody who has died, i imagine the transition would be instant.
 
Doesn’t it happen at judgement day and the end of the world.
Catechism of the Catholic Church

1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven – through a purification 592 or immediately, 593 – or immediate and everlasting damnation. 594

At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.595

Resurrection

1001 When? Definitively “at the last day,” "at the end of the world."555 Indeed, the resurrection of the dead is closely associated with Christ’s Parousia:

For the Lord himself will descend from heaven, with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. and the dead in Christ will rise first.556​
 
After we die we leave our bodies behind, then we go to a spiritual place, then at resurrection we would need our bodies because here on Earth in this material and physical world we functioned that way? But in the hereafter, wouldn’t you think that it would be illogical to consider that the body would be needed, right? Where does the soul stay before the resurrection of our bodies and the judgement day? why would even the body be needed in the hereafter, us being now on earth both body and soul isn’t a sufficient answer.
It is a sign of insanity to despise your body and regard it as useless considering that we use it to communicate with others…
 
They are not believer. Are they? How you could possibly escape from land of God?
Criminals also know the law of the land and yet do those deeds hoping not to be caught. Some don’t care and is willing to take the risk of enjoying short term gains. One can choose to ignore or refuse to believe. Those sentenced know why they are being punished. There are not many criminals surprised by the punishment. Some may already be plotting their next crime upon their release.
They are. No one would commit a crime if he knows that punishment is unavoidable.
Some are willing to trade short term gains for perpetual misery. Pascal’s Wager. Some will just remain defiant with a “So be it” or a “I don’t care when I am dead.” Truly myopic and high risk gambler.
 
Ignatius;14845351:
You can’t go there accidentally, you have to have full knowledge and full consent of the will.
That (bold part) seems irrational to me. Why anyone purposefully decide to get tortured?/QUOTE
Only those who choose to be separated from God go to hell. It is Mortal Sin that separates one from God and Mortal Sin requires Grave matter, full knowledge and full consent of the will.

Here is a an analogous question: Why would anyone choose to pay a heavy fine? Well, knowing that running a red light incurs the penalty of a heavy fine, therefore the person who intentionally runs a red light is knowingly incurring a heavy traffic fine. It is a situation that the person has chosen.
 
The soul is united to the body as form to matter, but the person is the composite of the soul and body (form and matter).
But that doesn’t answer why would it be needed after death.
 
But when he dies, where does the soul stay?
The spirits of the angels and the rational souls of humans, are immaterial, so do not require a location, but there is reference made to "heaven"and “hell” for these. They may be called states.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states there there are two orders of creatures – spiritual and corporeal:
327 The profession of faith of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) affirms that God "from the beginning of time made at once (simul) out of nothing both orders of creatures, the spiritual and the corporeal, that is, the angelic and the earthly, and then (deinde) the human creature, who as it were shares in both orders, being composed of spirit and body."187

And also that:

326 The Scriptural expression “heaven and earth” means * all that exists, creation in its entirety.* It also indicates the bond, deep within creation, that both unites heaven and earth and distinguishes the one from the other: * “the earth” is the world of men, while * “heaven” or “the heavens” can designate both the firmament and God’s own “place” - “our Father in heaven” and consequently * the “heaven” too which is eschatological glory.
  • Finally, “heaven” refers to the saints and the “place” of the spiritual creatures, the angels, who surround God.186
 
The spirits of the angels and the rational souls of humans, are immaterial, so do not require a location, but there is reference made to "heaven"and “hell” for these. They may be called states.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states there there are two orders of creatures – spiritual and corporeal:
327 The profession of faith of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) affirms that God "from the beginning of time made at once (simul) out of nothing both orders of creatures, the spiritual and the corporeal, that is, the angelic and the earthly, and then (deinde) the human creature, who as it were shares in both orders, being composed of spirit and body."187

And also that:

326 The Scriptural expression “heaven and earth” means * all that exists, creation in its entirety.* It also indicates the bond, deep within creation, that both unites heaven and earth and distinguishes the one from the other: * “the earth” is the world of men, while * “heaven” or “the heavens” can designate both the firmament and God’s own “place” - “our Father in heaven” and consequently * the “heaven” too which is eschatological glory.
  • Finally, “heaven” refers to the saints and the “place” of the spiritual creatures, the angels, who surround God.186
So in Heaven and Hell you would be using both, your body and your soul, what difference does that make from Earth then as to be considered locations.
Are heaven and Hell locations? physical or spiritual or both? why would a body be needed in a spiritual place or state?
 
You wrote: "So in Heaven and Hell you would be using both, your body and your soul, what difference does that make from Earth then as to be considered locations. physical or spiritual or both?
A. There are different senses of the words heaven and hell. The meaning will vary based upon what the subject is. It could be place or state or condition.

Angels do not have material bodies and the human rational soul exists without a body.

Some meanings of heaven:
  • the expanse of space that seems to be over the earth like a dome
  • a spiritual state
  • a place or condition of utmost happiness
Some meanings of hell:
  • a nether world in which the dead continue to exist
  • the nether realm in which the condemned suffer everlasting punishment
  • a place or state of misery, torment, or wickedness
In Baltimore Catechism:

Q. 217. If Angels have no bodies, how could they appear?
A. Angels could appear by taking bodies to render themselves visible for a time; just as the Holy Ghost took the form of a dove and the devil took the form of a serpent.
 
How could possibly God create Hell and justify it knowing the fact that just irrational people goes against God’s plan for us, goodness? Why should God torture irrational people?
God does not need to justify anything. It is we who must justify ourselves.

Might as well ask why God should reward rational people for all eternity. 🤷
 
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