How the Catholic 'alt-right' aims to purge LGBTQ members from the church

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“The promotion and defense of the faith should invite an encounter with the merciful love of Christ and contribute to a more civil and peaceful dialogue in our church and society,” he said. “I urge my brothers and sisters to exercise extreme caution before giving credence to anyone who instigates shameful, digital stoning as a way to defend the Church. Catholic participation in the public square should be marked by both fidelity to the Gospel and to charity toward all our fellow citizens.”

Agreed?
 
There are extremists at both ends of this spectrum. NBC thinks it is wrong to fire a person from a Catholic institution for being “engaged” to someone of the same sex, but I don’t think that is extreme.

OTOH, I don’t think it is right to post people’s personal info. And nasty trolls of any position are just making everything worse, and putting their own cause in a bad light, if indeed it is their own cause.
 
So, the Bible and the Catholic tradition have now become “alt-right”, if I understand you correctly? And NBC has now somehow replaced the magisterium?
 
Unfortunately for the cause of justice, it is a lot more than the alt-right. But then homosexuals are their own worst enemy, from my experience. Almost every bit of injustice and pettiness I have had here has been over homosexuality, and at the hands of those that want more than equality, but preferential treatment. For that reason, I will not defend them here, maybe never again.
 
faith comes by hearing’ hearing by the work of god forbidding entrance keeps people from hearing the word of god
 
ontheway1 said:
So, the Bible and the Catholic tradition have now become “alt-right”, if I understand you correctly? And NBC has now somehow replaced the magisterium?
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I think i will go back to considering myself part of the alt-right.

For me the alt right are people who have little trust in main stream media or the leftish narrative of history and society taught to us through this medium and the secular classroom.

I think the alt-right include those of us, including faithful Catholics who have distanced themselves from the ascendant Godlessness of leftist politics and who have looked to build new understandings outside of that bubble.
 
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All this leftist nonsense is part of the social engineering project we are now subjected to. First they will call us ‘alt-right’ and then we as a church will be outlawed. Unless we accept the gender agenda.
And the sad thing is that people who are doing this have a lot of influence.
 
I guess it was not enough to divide the world between left and right – not sensational enough for today’s media. Now we have to carve it further into alt categories.

As for the Church, I think the choice is clear:

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abucs said:
For me the alt right are people who
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The problem is that you do not get to determine the meaning of the term (unfortunately).

Alt-right means racist, and anything that appears to the identity-politics folks as similar to racism (even if those whom racists are against are unhappy with the association). Thus, racists are against people of darker-skinned races than themselves; therefore any person A against any member of any group different from person A is engaging in something as heinous as racism, which is why Eiger was chased out of Mozilla.

Yes, it is bizarre that those who advocate for the continued legality of unfettered abortion are tarred with no brush, but those who think maybe people can’t marry members of the same sex are equivalent to those running Nazi concentration camps.
 
abucs said:
I think i will go back to considering myself part of the alt-right.
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You’re really comfortable aligning yourself with neo-nazis, the KKK, and Alex Jones’ wacko conspiracy theories?

I’m sorry to hear that.
 
Sorry, I have never seen any kind of organized effort to “purge” the Catholic Church of LGBTQetc.

To connect traditionally-minded Catholics to the “alt-right” is calumny.

I have no idea of a persons sexual orientation unless they choose to share it. I’m not sure why it would be an appropriate thing to share at Mass anyway?
 
LOL at the click-baity word “purge”

Makes everything exciting
 
pnewton said:
Unfortunately for the cause of justice, it is a lot more than the alt-right. But then homosexuals are their own worst enemy, from my experience. Almost every bit of injustice and pettiness I have had here has been over homosexuality, and at the hands of those that want more than equality, but preferential treatment. For that reason, I will not defend them here, maybe never again.
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How does your conclusion about not defending them square with Church teaching?
 
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ontheway1:
So, the Bible and the Catholic tradition have now become “alt-right”, if I understand you correctly? And NBC has now somehow replaced the magisterium?
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I think i will go back to considering myself part of the alt-right.

For me the alt right are people who have little trust in main stream media or the leftish narrative of history and society taught to us through this medium and the secular classroom.

I think the alt-right include those of us, including faithful Catholics who have distanced themselves from the ascendant Godlessness of leftist politics and who have looked to build new understandings outside of that bubble.
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I thoroughly agree. Nowadays being a faithful Catholic is enough in some quarters to be considered the equivalent of being a hooded member of the KKK or a Nazi sympathizer. Look at Pope Francis’ recent statements on homosexuality and how quickly some in the media (and some in the Church, like Fr. James Martin) turned on him like ravenous dogs because of him restating the practice of the Church of restricting homosexuals from becoming priests. Now Pope Francis, who is no theological conservative by any stretch of the imagination, is being called a homophobe by some liberal commentators despite his past ambiguous remarks on homosexuality.

For this reason I embrace the alt-right label if that’s what they want to call me for being a faithful Catholic. If they think I’m a homophobe, or a racist, or a fascist, then so be it. We cannot be concerned with others’ opinions and attempt to cater to the secular culture, or whitewash our beliefs for good PR with the mainstream media. Jesus said that the righteous would be persecuted here on earth, but the reward will be great in heaven.
 
The alt-right doesn’t define itself as being aligned with Catholic Church teaching. And there’s nothing in Church teaching that justifies white supremacy, Holocaust denial, or antisemitism.
 
I don’t think that accepting Catholic moral doctrine regarding sexual morality makes one a member of the alt-right, whatever that may be. Catholic moral doctrine is consistent with scripture and tradition and does not change with the times.
 
The main point is that “Alt Right” is being loosely applied by the media to practically anyone more than slightly right of centre (especially when it comes to sexual ethics) in order to discredit their opinions. It doesn’t matter whether they are actually racist or not, lumping them in with the racists, holocaust deniers, etc will destroy their credibility without the media having to go to the trouble of confronting their uncomfortable ideas about, say, gender ideology.

I see where these posters are coming from, but given who make up the actual alt-right, I think it is unwise for one to proudly accept this caricature (unless, of course, the person is a racist, holocaust denier, etc, in which case there would be bigger problems to deal with than your choice of words lol)
 
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There is no Catholic “alt-right”, it is merely a slur made up by the left to delegitimize criticism of those who advocate rejection or change of unchangeable Church doctrine on sexuality. The real alt-right is anti-Christian (because Christianity rejects racism) and doesn’t care about homosexuality at all (many prominent members of the alt-right support gay rights, such as Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannapoulos). The people branded asthe Catholic “alt-right” would dance in the streets if Cardinal Robert Sarah were to be elected Pope, as they care about doctrine, not race.
 
MapleLeaf1 said:
The main point is that “Alt Right” is being loosely applied by the media to practically anyone more than slightly right of centre (especially when it comes to sexual ethics) in order to discredit their opinions.
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Not in the article posted to begin this thread. They are specifically talking about behavior like death threats, publishing home addresses, tire slashing, online and in-person harassment, etc.
Hardly the behavior of “practically anyone slightly right of centre.” These are vicious, self-righteous people using religion as an excuse for hatred. They are, indeed, part of the alt-right, and apparently proud of it.
 
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