How was Adam able to be "tempted"?

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davidv said:
She/He were misled into believing that God had withheld something good from them.

These choices will be disordered unless the intellect is enlighted and the will is subject to the intellect.
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The choice at it’s base was to either obey God or disobey God, wasn’t it?
 
mikeledes said:
In essence the choice was between life and death. Adam freely chose death.

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Michael
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Exactly.

Let’s think of the implications of the alternative:

If God “made” Adam sin, what would that say of God’s justice, punishing Man for doing what God wished him to do.

And why the need for such scheming on God’s part? After all, there wasn’t anyone observing who would benefit from such pantomime.

If God wanted Adam and Eve out of the Garden, could he not have tossed them out, or never created it in the first place?

I have a similar problem with those Protestant brothers in the evangelical churches who claim that judgment consists of Satan as Prosecutor and Christ as defense attorney with God in judgment (not sure how prevalent this might be in your towns, but I’ve heard it preached in several churches down here). It is ridiculous, and un-Biblical. Moreover, it’s unnecessary and cruel—why has God need of show trials?
 
mikeledes said:
I’m interested in your answer to this question.

God Bless,
Michael
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My answer is simple.

I don’t know.

I’ve read various answers by theologians of all persuasions and most of the answers are, IMHO inadequate.

Simply stating that Adam had free will doesn’t really answer the question.
 
Calvinator said:
My answer is simple.

I don’t know.

I’ve read various answers by theologians of all persuasions and most of the answers are, IMHO inadequate.

Simply stating that Adam had free will doesn’t really answer the question.
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It answers the question as you put if perfectly.

The question it doesn’t answer is “WHY did Adam choose to disobey God?”
 
Baraq said:
Scripture teaches that man is completely depraved since, and unable to come to saving faith without God. Thats why Calvinists believe that man can not come to a saving faith without God.

Scripture bears witness that the Calvinist position is indeed true.
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So your definition of “completely depraved” = “unable to come to saving faith without God”?

Chuck
 
Adam, tempted by the devil, let his trust in his Creator die in his heart and, abusing his freedom, disobeyed God’s command.

Chuck
 
Br.Rich_SFO said:
Adam had free will and could choose to disobey God, and did.
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Hi
Adam being a human being did make a mistake, but since he repented and was forgiven by GodAllahYHWH, it won’t be called a sin. He never committed a sin.
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Adam was not the first human being, he was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH had a direct conversation, there were humans beings men/woman before Adam and Eve.
 
paarsurrey said:
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Adam being a human being did make a mistake, but since he repented and was forgiven by GodAllahYHWH, it won’t be called a sin. He never committed a sin.
Thanks

Adam was not the first human being, he was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH had a direct conversation, there were humans beings men/woman before Adam and Eve.
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A) Where does it say he repented?
B) Where does it say he was forgiven?
C) Rejection of God is ALWAYS considered a sin. It can be forgiven, but it ALWAYS considered a sin.

Romans, chapter 5, tells us:
But death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin after the pattern of the trespass of Adam, who is the type of the one who was to come.

D) Where does it say there were humans before Adam?

Tobit, chapter 8, tells us:
*** You made Adam and you gave him his wife Eve to be his help and support; and from these two the human race descended*.**
 
Calvinator said:
Simply stating that Adam had free will doesn’t really answer the question.
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But it assures that Adam is personally responsible for his sin. The alternative would be that God caused him to sin. That’s an unacceptable alternative.

God Bless,
Michael
 
mikeledes said:
But it assures that Adam is personally responsible for his sin. The alternative would be that God caused him to sin. That’s an unacceptable alternative.

God Bless,
Michael
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If we don’t have free will life is simply pointless.
 
djrakowski said:
Furthermore, if we don’t have free will, we don’t have love, and we all know how love is emphasized in sacred scripture.
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That is an excellent point—I’ve never made that connection before.

God created us to love him.

Yet love requires free will.

Therefore God has granted us free will.

There is a beautiful logic in that.
 
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