How would your spritual life react to such a new parish in your neighborhood?

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Roseeurekacross said:
You are hardly demonstrating Christian Charity ATM. Asthma is another very real issue. Mental toughness won’t stop the incense bringing on potentially fatal asthma attacks.
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Yeah, but a facemask, a change of seats, medication before/during Mass or a different type of incense might.
 
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facemasks dont work with such serious issues. the only thing that works is not being in the region of the thing that brings on closing of airways and potential death.

hopefully you will never have to experience such an inconvenience of perfume used by another ( for eg) closing your airways in an asthma attack
 
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Duesenberg said:
Good question. In a somewhat idealized situation like the one I described, the parish would have only ONE Mass/Sunday. That way members of the parish could actually get to know one another. They could have a multi-hour Sunday experience. Excuses for offering 45 minutes Mass like limited parking would be eliminated.

Running parishes like factories with multiple Masses (many unfilled in my experience) is one of the more negative Catholic experiences.
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How strongly do you believe in this? Are you willing to take the necessary steps to become a priest, then a pastor? Will you then personally head up the fundraising committee that will make this all possible?

Don’t dream it, be it. Build that one-mass-per-Sunday parish that provides a “positive multi-hour Catholic experience” week in and week out. Don’t just tell us. SHOW us how it’s done. Or do you not have the necessary mental toughness?
 
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I live near Oxford, UK. To be fair the parish where I just got back from Mass doesn’t normally have incense except on important holy days, but they do always have bells, Father normally uses EP1, wears a cassock before Mass, there is a traditional confessional (albeit it does seem rather lightly used), they sing the seasonal Marian antiphon after Mass in Latin etc. So it’s not like all the parishes in my area have all these traditional attributes, but the ones they lack they usually make up for with others. I never get the impression of ‘politicised’ minimalism.

Within Anglicanism Oxford always had a reputation as a ‘High Church’ kind of place, so perhaps that has carried over to the local Catholic culture.
 
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You mean a powered gas mask.

No half face Face mask will filter all smoke particles.
 
Even then, it won’t take the particles off your clothing. If my husband goes to Easter Mass (I am not obligated due to my allergy) he must head straight for the bathroom to shower and he washes all the clothes he was wearing and airs out the car so as not to trigger me. And no, I’m not exaggerating. I have been triggered before by clothing carrying incense.
 
Reminds me of the horrible old days where people smoked in pubs clubs and restaurants.
 
Duesenberg said:
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Again, you’re entitled to your own opinion. I think it is rather inconsiderate for the priest not to shepherd his flock and meet their needs. Eventually, that church will be empty. Too bad.
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Have you ever considered that for hundreds, using incense might be doing just that, meeting their needs?
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You know, the Church doesn’t require it for the Low Mass, even in TLM and there were many small chapels where only the Low Mass was said. I’ve encountered one such at a Barnabite Abby.

For the OF Mass, the use of incense is optional. In this, a Priest should balance the needs of his parishioners. Forget the preferences of the majority for the minority? God couldn’t have condoned that now, right. Oh, wait. Jesus did. A good shepherd leaves the 99 for the sake of the 1. Or is that something not in your Bible?
 
Our parish is more quiet on Sunday then then some other local parishes and I value that in my spiritual walk.

I would think it’s difficult to make everyone happy.
 
I have been going to 8:00 AM Mass, and I enjoy it because it is less crowded and less likely to trigger anxieties. I sit close to the front, because of my hearing loss; I need new glasses and that should help me focus on the homily better. That is the only incense-free Mass, a major concession because Father loves incense. So do I. You can’t get everything you want in life, so be satisfied with what you get.
 
Yeahhhhh tying that to the face of someone with breathing issues isn’t going to cause trouble…at all…:roll_eyes: Also, it doesn’t necessarily make what is needed for true sufferers, which is a total seal.
 
I’m Byzantine, so we always have incense at Liturgy. I’m OK with it, but the only time it bothers me is that sometimes if it’s particularly strong, it takes me right back to my mother’s funeral. So, I guess I dont have any physical reactions to it, but more emotional.
 
Hi, Duesenberg!

Sadly, that’s Christianity today… satisfy me or I get my own religious group going!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
@Jcrichton …in case you missed it we are talking about the case where a priest refuses to stop the unessential use of incense so that his flock can participate in Mass. We’re not talking about music or jumbotrons or padded pews, but life and death cases where incense can cause serious bodily harm, causing people to need to miss Mass or travel far.

I am very sickened (physically) when I attend my district “parish”. So now I am forced to drive three times as far to go to Mass. I am sure God will reward my efforts, but I am not sure that God will be all that happy with the priest who knowingly used an optional tool that created a situation where people miss Mass.
 
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