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Alex337
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And what’s your definition? Does it not include kindness and respect?
And what’s your definition? Does it not include kindness and respect?
I have read Fr Martin's book Building A Bridge: Q 1: why need for gay community?
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anon10271182
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“Objectively disordered inclination.” Straight from the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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Doesn’t you’re and you are mean the same thing.
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Alex337
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As I already mentioned that is the churches opinion. But not precisely an objective one.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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Doesn’t that mean your opinion is not objective either.
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Yup, I was looking at a different post, my bad 
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anon10271182
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Not an opinion. An established teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. These are the Catholic Answers Forums.
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Alex337
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I already said it was what they taught. Objective is a view that is free of personal bias; given the Church believes homosexuality is sinful they can’t be free of bias.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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If it is disordered than it really isn’t biased.
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Alex337
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Actually that is the bias. It’s a moral judgment on an act that then seeks to inform an opinion on whether an act is “disordered”.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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But aren’t you biased against the Church?
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Alex337
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No, why would I be?
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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Because you disagree, so you would naturally take preference to your own judgement.
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Alex337
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I disagree on one topic because they can’t support their claim. That’s different to a bias. I don’t approach them assuming they are incorrect based on a moral judgement.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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They can support their claim in a theological way.
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Alex337
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I haven’t seen any support that their view is either correct or objective.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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But I don’t find support for the other side either.
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Alex337
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This was edited after I responded. To clarify; I’m sure they can. But theology is certainly not objective, nor does it always represent physical reality. Which is fine. Within their own theology they can, outside of it they can’t.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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Well I figured out that my responses need better clarification.
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Alex337
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I’d be happy to help
firstly the question of “disorder”; do you feel this relates to the sex act being non procreative or is there more to it?- Status