I just watched my last ER episode last night

[frommi]

JMJ Theresa:

I’ve been watching it from the get go. I did take a brief break when they were deep into Cari discovering her gay identity. I remember one episode that year when it opened with five couples in bed (talking). None were married and two of them were women.

Now another unmarried cast member is pregnant–I counted seven unmarried pregnancies among the main cast.

Last night, Abby and a 15 year old rape victim were both trying to decided about an abortion. Lots of “choice” words were thrown about. The Catholic doctor (yes, the promiscuous one who doesn’t practice his faith) eventually talks the devoutly Christian rape victim into have the miscarriage. Surprisingly, her devout parents were protrayed as trully kind people (though,obviously very misguided). He also performed the abortion immediately without counsellling and without informing the parents.

NBC has turned into abortion and gay rights propaganda central. I am boycotting it, for sure.!!!

Yeah…lots of doctors on that show end up pregnant for some reason…it’s like they missed the reproduction chapter during med school…not to mention that hospital seems to be the most dangerous place to work in america (helicopters falling from the sky, etc)

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ortho:

Glad to know the level of professional qualification here. Does their knowledge cover all ERs? Is the level of service provided by a hospital the choice of the hospital or the health care professinals on this board?

I wonder if the word “abortion” is losing its meaning? It used to mean a surgical procedure. On ER it was the insertion of some gadget. Others say the pill is an abortificant. Others say the morning after pill causes abortion. Perhaps a bit more precision would be helpful?

Abortion is any pregnancy loss. Induced abortion would be a pregnancy loss due to medical or surgical intervention due to a woman’s choice to end her pregnancy.

And, I am pretty sure that there are no ER’s that provide abortion. They are done in the abortion clinic, doctor’s office, or in the hospital on one of the floors. The ER is way too busy to provide routine services such as killing your baby!

 

[Ortho]

Mom of one:

Abortion is any pregnancy loss. Induced abortion would be a pregnancy loss due to medical or surgical intervention due to a woman’s choice to end her pregnancy.

And, I am pretty sure that there are no ER’s that provide abortion. They are done in the abortion clinic, doctor’s office, or in the hospital on one of the floors. The ER is way too busy to provide routine services such as killing your baby!

If a morning after pill results in the rejection of a fertilized egg by the uterus, is that an abortion?

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ortho:

If a morning after pill results in the rejection of a fertilized egg by the uterus, is that an abortion?

Yes, it is. And the birth control pill can do the same thing, but doesn’t always.

 

[Liberalsaved]

WanderAimlessly:

Another reason I do not visit the Broadcast channels except for sports.

PF

Sports contain pointless violence. You should probably just go hide in a corner and not talk to anyone.

 

[Ortho]

Mom of one:

Yes, it is. And the birth control pill can do the same thing, but doesn’t always.

Are morning after pills given at any ERs?

 

[Ortho]

Liberalsaved:

Sports contain pointless violence. You should probably just go hide in a corner and not talk to anyone.

I suppose one could go to a chat room and reinforce their beliefs by talking to like minded people.

 

[Ortho]

OK. Time to tell the truth. How many folks who vowed never to watch ER again after the abortion episode actually watched last night?

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ortho:

Are morning after pills given at any ERs?

Truthfully, I don’t know. In general, I’d say no, because it is not an emergency. But in the case of a rape, maybe.

 

[Anglican77]

Mom of one:

Yes, it is. And the birth control pill can do the same thing, but doesn’t always.

The morning after pill is actually just a higher dosage of birth control pills.

 

[Mom_of_one]

Anglican77:

The morning after pill is actually just a higher dosage of birth control pills.

I know this, but I differentiated between them because many people don’t know that the pill can cause early abortions in it’s routine, everyday dose.

However, I have heard that the pill is a great plant fertilizer. So, it’s good for something!

 

[Ortho]

Mom of one:

Truthfully, I don’t know. In general, I’d say no, because it is not an emergency. But in the case of a rape, maybe.

Could we then say ERs do abortion? Or does it make more sense to drop the word abortion and instead use more precision in language?

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ortho:

Could we then say ERs do abortion? Or does it make more sense to drop the word abortion and instead use more precision in language?

But, we don’t know if a woman is pregnant in the first place when they do whatever treatment they do in the ER after a rape. So, we can’t call it an abortion if we don’t know that a woman is pregnant. And, I said, “maybe”. I don’t know all the treatments that are used after a rape. I know what was offered to me by the doctor and I know what I have read.

 

[Mom_of_one]

OK, I just did a google search on treatment of rape victims in the ER and a couple of interesting things stand out.

#1 The majority of the sites available had to do with emergency contraception in cases of rape, and nothing else on how they are treated medically. They called it pregnancy PREVENTION, so hopefully that is exactly what they mean.

#2 A study shows that the treatments that are supposed to be standard protocol for treatment of rape victims are quite ofen, not done. One example that was used was rape victims are suposed to be tested for veneral diseases and given preventative treatments for STD’s. I believe that the testing is to see if the VD is already present and if not, anything that shows up later can be attributed to the rape. This was done only 58% of the time. Not good.

I’ll try to do a google search again on this later, using some different words.

 

[JMJ_Theresa]

Ortho:

OK. Time to tell the truth. How many folks who vowed never to watch ER again after the abortion episode actually watched last night?

I was really tempted. I’ve been watching it for a long time, but I am still mad Fortunately for my resolution, the show has been going downhill for so long, it is not as hard to keep my NO ER pledge.

However, I have watched NBC. I watched *My Name is Earl * and The Office.

No redeeming social value. But, doesn’t pretend to.

 

[Liberalsaved]

Ortho:

I suppose one could go to a chat room and reinforce their beliefs by talking to like minded people.

I think you miss my point, which is that if you want to skip all things potentially offensive, you have to go and hide and never turn on the television or go outside.

 

[Ortho]

Liberalsaved:

I think you miss my point, which is that if you want to skip all things potentially offensive, you have to go and hide and never turn on the television or go outside.

Don’t miss the point at all. There are some who have a mindset that the rest of us have an obligation to refrain from the production or enjoyment of anything that offends their highly tuned sensitivities. Rather than hide away in total isolation, they find other such folks on the internet and then they tell each other how much better they are than the rest of the lumpen.

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ortho:

Don’t miss the point at all. There are some who have a mindset that the rest of us have an obligation to refrain from the production or enjoyment of anything that offends their highly tuned sensitivities. Rather than hide away in total isolation, they find other such folks on the internet and then they tell each other how much better they are than the rest of the lumpen.

That is rude, insulting, and quite judgemental. You have never heard any of us say that we are better than anyone else. And as for the rest, I won’t even bother replying other than to say that you are so wrong.

 

[Ortho]

Mom of one:

That is rude, insulting, and quite judgemental. You have never heard any of us say that we are better than anyone else. And as for the rest, I won’t even bother replying other than to say that you are so wrong.

Did you think I was referring to you? Why?

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ortho:

Did you think I was referring to you? Why?

Me, specifically? No. But you did post this on this thread, in reply to someone’s else’s rude comment, so what is someone supposed to think?