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twf
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He also has zero authority in the Church…and I’ll listen to my bishop and pope before him…
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TK421
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The bishop’s staff is a crosier. The Biblical imagery of the snake refers to the staff of Moses or the bronze serpent that healed the Israelites in the desert (the bronze serpent is considered a Christological figure that is foreshadowed in the Old Testament). Also, snakes are a symbol of wisdom in the New Testament, see Matthew 10:16.
Peace.
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twf
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Not necessarily. Do you know that Eastern Orthodox / Byzantine Catholic bishops use crosiers with snakes? Literally…not just “coincidentally”. This goes back to the story in Numbers 21 where Moses, at God’s command, create a bronze serpent on a pole and commanded the Israelites to look at it to be healed…
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Maximian
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Well, Im an ex freemason, I think freemasonry is extremely dangerous and I also think that some masonic thinking (universalism and the technique of using language and rituals to which people of different faiths can apply their own understanding) influenced the design of the new Mass. For that reason I would cautiously go along with the suggestion that Abp Bugnini may have been a mason.
But… I really do not think the Church was “taken over” by Freemasons.
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Aulef
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Actually, yes it is (in part)
God is Beauty itself and everything that derives from Him is beautiful. And lack of beauty comes either from the devil or our fallen nature.
God is Beauty itself and everything that derives from Him is beautiful. And lack of beauty comes either from the devil or our fallen nature.
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MeganCecilia
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That is what this is. Do not worry any longer.
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Aulef
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Why would you have doubts over faith because of this?
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sadness99
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Well what if it looked that way without the camera angle? I understand this is a pointless hypothetical but it might help ease my anxiety
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Todd_Easton
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Even if the interior and exterior of the Pope’s new audience hall do somewhat resemble a snake or serpent, not all associations with serpents are bad. The rods of Moses and Aaron miraculously became serpents as signs that God was with them. (Exodus 4:3; 7:9-12) Jesus Christ told his disciples to “be wise as serpents.” (Matthew 10:16) And, Jesus compared himself to a serpent, saying, "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.” (John 3:14-15) Accordingly, some Christians have even referred to Jesus Christ as the Serpent of Life.
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27lw
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It’s just that the whole sculpture is so freakishly huge and dominating that whole room.
What is that thing attached the the side of Our Lord’s head? “O Sacred Head now wounded?” By the nuclear bomb? What in the heck?!
It looks more like something out of a medieval artwork about hell.
Really people this one’s hard to explain away. I’m ready to join SSPX now! JK. I think…
What is that thing attached the the side of Our Lord’s head? “O Sacred Head now wounded?” By the nuclear bomb? What in the heck?!
It looks more like something out of a medieval artwork about hell.
Really people this one’s hard to explain away. I’m ready to join SSPX now! JK. I think…
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27lw
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Also the interior of the hall looking like a snake head.
This one is also really hard to explain.
I need help with this one as well.
Thanks OP for bringing this up.
I’m going to ask a friend who trained as an architect if a professional architect could have “accidentally” made this look like a snake head.
https://images.app.goo.gl/Bbc6Boh8o7f1MLXFA
This one is also really hard to explain.
I need help with this one as well.
Thanks OP for bringing this up.
I’m going to ask a friend who trained as an architect if a professional architect could have “accidentally” made this look like a snake head.
https://images.app.goo.gl/Bbc6Boh8o7f1MLXFA
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Zaccheus
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It’s a couple of oval windows and a slanted roof with a decorative pattern. Some people are “seeing” what they want to see.
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27lw
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It literally looks like a snake head from the perspective of the seats in the hall. The “stage” area also looks like the snake’s nose holes.
I really don’t see how a trained professional designs that by accident.
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whatistrue
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Humans are, as a species, quite good at pattern recognition. We are especially good at picking what we perceive as dangerous creatures out of a random background. We are so good at it in fact that we often see dangerous creatures where there aren’t any.
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27lw
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Yeah, I get that it’s not an actual snake.27lw:
Humans are, as a species, quite good at pattern recognition. We are especially good at picking what we perceive as dangerous creatures out of a random background. We are so good at it in fact that we often see dangerous creatures where there aren’t any.
If a professional architect designed that by accident I will eat my hat.
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Zaccheus
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The architect didn’t design it by accident.whatistrue:
Yeah, I get that it’s not an actual snake.27lw:
Humans are, as a species, quite good at pattern recognition. We are especially good at picking what we perceive as dangerous creatures out of a random background. We are so good at it in fact that we often see dangerous creatures where there aren’t any.
If a professional architect designed that by accident I will eat my hat.
Neither did he design it to look like a snake.
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27lw
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It just turned out looking like a snake. Okay.27lw:
The architect didn’t design it by accident.whatistrue:
Yeah, I get that it’s not an actual snake.27lw:
Humans are, as a species, quite good at pattern recognition. We are especially good at picking what we perceive as dangerous creatures out of a random background. We are so good at it in fact that we often see dangerous creatures where there aren’t any.
If a professional architect designed that by accident I will eat my hat.
Neither did he design it to look like a snake.
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Annie
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I have not read all the responses, but in answer to this concern:
It is your anxiety overreacting.
I hope that you are getting some counseling to help you see things more clearly.
And FWIW, whenever I start to worry, I (try to remember to
) consider it a sign to pray for whatever I am worrying about. Usually praying is all I can do about it, but if there is more I can do I do that as well, but praying about my worries really helps me.
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whatistrue
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No, it doesn’t “look like” a snake; some people see snake features and get wrapped around the axle over an illusion.
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DeniseNY
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If this is part of your OCD, looking for reassurances is the wrong thing to do. It may be helpful in the short term, but harmful for the long term controlling of the OCD. I urge you to stop and to speak to someone qualified to help you with this.
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