God nourishes the earth. God is its creator.
Can you not even have praise for the earth in the context of John’s Revelation?
I give my thanks to God, not to the earth. Again, the earth cannot hear you. I’m sure some protestant sects believe that the earth can, but as Catholics we believe the earth cannot hear you. Do I need to quote the Psalmist Pope Francis quoted earlier?
That is an inspiring woman of the Church for sure! Thanks graciew.
I have heard that argument to denounce the intercession of the Saints many times… but always from Protestants. As Catholics we acknowledge Christ in the patronage of the Saints.Emeraldlady:
The point of the Amazon Synod was several points, capitalism and the destruction of the Amazon being just one point.
You might do well to find out why people are distressed and scandalised, rather than assuming ‘angry zeal’ on an 'innocent picture or carving or statue of a ‘poor old indigenous heavily pregnant woman’
Here is a key ’ who nourished humanity from the soil’
Who , my question is to you, does the nourishing of humanity. who has created absolutely everything and sees to its ongoing nourishment or drought.
Who has this role, who is the Creator, who is the created?
Maybe this will help. It explains what we’re headed for. And it isn’t pretty!Chistian-ity:
To be honest with you I am not really sure either
There’s no reason to consider it in a spiritual manner on it’s own.
I see how that works, but the manner being used isn’t really tactful which can also make it severely ineffective. Some of it’s just unconventional for no reason.
The earth and nature are not dead. Beasts aren’t dead. All religions share many of the same symbols that embody a universal character. Jesus is the ‘lamb’ of God. The ‘dove’ of peace. The divine ‘sacrifice’ . The ‘tree’ of life. Two of my kids are going to Israel next week, specifically to walk on the earth Jesus and the Apostles walked on. The hallowed ground. In this recognition we are in fact part of the ecology of Christianity.The earth is dead as the rocks and idols. They cannot hear you like the Saints and God can.
Emeraldlady:
No, just you and people like you who see wealth and people who have wealth, even if they earned it fairly, as evil. People like you who call rich people idolaters while enabling the abused Amazonians in theirown idolatry of the earth. You have the audacity to compare Our Lady with the pagan Nachomama. The same Nachomama that demands human sacrife and infanticide.
And that even though we are high and mighty Catholics, we are failing to be thankful and respectful of the earth and our habitat… why is it not right for the Church to urgently remind us of what real respect for the earth looks like? Even through the example of respect for the earth still shown in other faiths?
This reminds me of another irony. Pope St JPII made a habit of kissing the ground of nations he arrived in as a sign of respect and blessing. The same people who poo pooed this act as un Catholic, took issue with Pope Francis discouraging people kissing his ring. Same people.Emeraldlady:
I give my thanks to God, not to the earth. Again, the earth cannot hear you. I’m sure some protestant sects believe that the earth can, but as Catholics we believe the earth cannot hear you. Do I need to quote the Psalmist Pope Francis quoted earlier?
These are just symbols or analogies that help paint a picture that are not to be praised in of themselves.
Thanking God for these things are the same thing. I’m not sure why one would go in an over about way to respect the Earth if a reasonable effort is used to not needlessly destroy it.
What you are calling ‘earth worship’ has in fact been part of the Catholic faith for millenia. I’m from a farming family with a number of clergy involved. Whenever any important seasonal event happened, such as planting harvesting or picking, we had a blessing ceremony, much to the angst of the local Protestants. That’s the Catholic way.
Respect for the Earth does not look like a ceremony honoring Pachamama.Ammi:
And that even though we are high and mighty Catholics, we are failing to be thankful and respectful of the earth and our habitat… why is it not right for the Church to urgently remind us of what real respect for the earth looks like? Even through the example of respect for the earth still shown in other faiths?
Blessing things isn’t the issue.
But who believes that the synod was promoting a ‘manner being used’? The synod was a listening event. Listening and understanding what we share in common of the divine life. If pachamama was replacing Our Lady, I’d be all there against it. But that’s not what’s happening at all.