I am guessing from some glances at your posts that you are muslim, is that correct? What is your view on the Gospel or Injeel as you call it in arabic? Do you believe that we as Christians have the infallible word of God contained in the Gospels?
Yes, only not interpreted with Jesus as deity, but Jesus as a human who God dwelled in as a prophet, then raised up to rule like God over us and be High Priest to make atonement for our sins. But still as a servant to the one God.
I think we have somewhat gotten away from the original intent of this thread. The original purpose of this thread is for discussion about Genesis 1:26. The angels took no place in creation. Only God. I am under the impression that this is the Jewish as well as the Christian view, however I do not know about Islam.
The truth is we don’t really know exactly what is meant when scripture states humans were created in God’s image.
Jews do not believe angels were involved. One Jewish interpetation fo the verse is that God out of politeness included the angels in his thoughts. But the verse in which the act of creation takes place clearly states that God – no plural – created man.
I’m not sure exactly which verses you have in mind, but there is one problem with any such interpretation of biblical texts: angels are incapable of creating anything *ex nihilo. *It requires a being of infinite power to create *ex nihilo. *It would be theological heresy and philosophical nonsense for a biblical author to assert that a finite creature possesses infinite power. It is sort of like the idea of a square circle. A square circle is a contradiction in terms. A square circle cannot exits. Even God in His infinite power cannot create a square circle. Likewise, the idea of a finite being with infinite power is a contradiction in terms.
It is assumed that God created humans in His image, not in that we look like him but that we have the ability to feel emotion, unlike animals. God is also described as having wings, but do we?
Let’s look at how this passage looks in English:
Exactly if you don’t believe this you run into a contradiction of faith.
Let me help you to modify your assumption. Pure spirits, such as angels and God, are not emotive beings. Emotion is proper only to animal nature. Both man and the lower animals are capable of emotion. Animals clearly have some emotions. Has you dog never been glad to see you? Does a lion ever become angry?
“Anger” refers to Divine justice. Scripture does not mean that God is literally angry any more than it means he literally has an arm when it refers to the 'arm of Yahweh". The arm of God refers to His operative power.From my reading of the creation story, only light was created ex nihilo. Everything else was created out of stuff that was in existence. The Hebrew assumes that the earth had been shapeless and formless when God begins creation. So God is really working with pre-existing material in all His creations other than light. Light is the only thing that comes into existence as a consequence of God uttering a word.
So when angels lusted after women, that was emotionless?Let me help you to modify your assumption. Pure spirits, such as angels and God, are not emotive beings. Emotion is proper only to animal nature. Both man and the lower animals are capable of emotion. Animals clearly have some emotions. Has you dog never been glad to see you? Does a lion ever become angry?
So, when it is said that man is created in the image of God, the meaning does not include emotions. Scripture speaks of the anger of Yahweh metaphorically.
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ok. A good rule of thumb is that when we say we assume, we are saying we don’t really know.
Exactly if God had no emotion, then he wouldn’t have created anything.So when angels lusted after women, that was emotionless?
When Satan experienced pride and jealousy and envy, that was emotionless?
When angels praise God, that’s emotionless?
