If Jesus would got married?

[CHRISTINE77]

Divine nature is not human and human nature is not divine. That much is true.

Jesus is 100% human and 100% God. If we take out the “and” we speak as if he has one mixed nature, which is against our beliefs.

That’s what I was trying to get him to see. If Jesus was half god, half man, he would have to be 50%/50%. But he is 100 % God and 100% man so he is not a mixture in any sense of the word.

Greek heroes were 50% human/50%god. Jesus in NOT.

 

[iamwhatido]

Since Jesus is God he can’t marry.

The nature of marriage is the union of a male person and a female person.
But while Jesus had a human nature he was a divine person, not a human person.
Therefore, it would not be a marriage. We don’t even have a name for what it would be.

 

[hasantas]

That’s what I was trying to get him to see. If Jesus was half god, half man, he would have to be 50%/50%. But he is 100 % God and 100% man so he is not a mixture in any sense of the word.

Greek heroes were 50% human/50%god. Jesus in NOT.

100% god and 100% human joined in one body! Is that not mixture?

 

[hasantas]

Since Jesus is God he can’t marry.

The nature of marriage is the union of a male person and a female person.
But while Jesus had a human nature he was a divine person, not a human person.
Therefore, it would not be a marriage. We don’t even have a name for what it would be.

Jesus was used to eat, drink, sleep etc. Those are very biological!

 

[hasantas]

John 1:14, “And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

Jesus was born without a father. Jesus was direct conlude and product of Father(God). When God decide to do something God say be! And it is. Jesus born was a miracle. God said be!(that is word and that is because Jesus is called “word of God”) And Jesus was born without a father. In same way Adam was created even Adam was created without a father and mother!

 

[hasantas]

John 5:18, “For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.”

John 10:30-33, “I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.”

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19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. John 5

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; John 10

Why did you cut?

 

[hasantas]

John 8:24, “I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins.”

John 8:58, “Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM.’”

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I Am Muslim. I AM the one who believe in one God.

I AM point Jesus and that is all. God used the words in scriptures which is kind of human use to be understood.

 

[hasantas]

John 20:28, "Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

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You Christians use those ver much when you are amazed or shocked! O My God or My Lord!

Thomas were very amazed and shocked to see that Jesus was alive.

 

[Vico]

100% god and 100% human joined in one body! Is that not mixture?

From Modern Catholic Dictionary

HYPOSTATIC UNION

Definition

The union of the human and divine natures in the one divine person of Christ. At the Council of Chalcedon (A.D. 451) the Church declared that the two natures of Christ are joined “in one person and one hypostasis” (Denzinger 302), where hypostasis means one substance. It was used to answer the Nestorian error of a merely accidental union of the two natures in Christ. The phrase “hypostatic union” was adopted a century later, at the fifth general council at Constantinople (A.D. 533). It is an adequate expression of Catholic doctrine about Jesus Christ that in him are two perfect natures, divine and human; that the divine person takes to himself, includes in his person a human nature; that the incarnate Son of God is an individual, complete substance; and that the union of the two natures is real (against Arius), no mere indwelling of God in a man (against Nestorius), with a rational soul (against Apollinaris), and the divinity remains unchanged (against Eutyches).

 

[CHRISTINE77]

100% god and 100% human joined in one body! Is that not mixture?

it doesn’t add up.

 

[Wesrock]

100% god and 100% human joined in one body! Is that not mixture?

Does the roundness of an apple mix with its redness? Or are the roundness and redness two attributes that don’t affect each other?

 

[hasantas]

From Modern Catholic Dictionary

HYPOSTATIC UNION

Definition

The union of the human and divine natures in the one divine person of Christ. At the Council of Chalcedon (A.D. 451) the Church declared that the two natures of Christ are joined “in one person and one hypostasis” (Denzinger 302), where hypostasis means one substance. It was used to answer the Nestorian error of a merely accidental union of the two natures in Christ. The phrase “hypostatic union” was adopted a century later, at the fifth general council at Constantinople (A.D. 533). It is an adequate expression of Catholic doctrine about Jesus Christ that in him are two perfect natures, divine and human; that the divine person takes to himself, includes in his person a human nature; that the incarnate Son of God is an individual, complete substance; and that the union of the two natures is real (against Arius), no mere indwelling of God in a man (against Nestorius), with a rational soul (against Apollinaris), and the divinity remains unchanged (against Eutyches).

How can divine attributes and humanely attributes mix to each other? Can you put divine and eternal attributes into a box? Eternal attributes surround and affect all times and materials. There is no need to say eternal essence dwelt into matter. What makes you so blind?

Divine nature takes human nature! What that means? It is as if God could not affect and feel or see or create matter so God decided to be material! There are connection between my soul and divine nature of God. God created my soul and sometimes my soul can get some inspiration and that is more usual for moraly high people. I am not moraly high yet I can see that. Soul of Jesus was very high and could take revelation and Jesus had very powerful connection with God. but there is no need to say that God did dwell in body of Jesus. That is an excessive thought or an excessive love for Jesus. We should not love some one else more than God. God give all loves for hearts to make them love each other and to love God.

Divine nature and human nature joined! That makes God to be consist of two natures. And we add Holy Spirit and Father. That is 3 gods and half god. And the assumed children of Jesus plus. hımmm… We will have more gods than Greek mythology gods!

 

[Vico]

How can divine attributes and humanely attributes mix to each other? Can you put divine and eternal attributes into a box? Eternal attributes surround and affect all times and materials. There is no need to say eternal essence dwelt into matter. What makes you so blind?

Divine nature takes human nature! What that means? It is as if God could not affect and feel or see or create matter so God decided to be material! There are connection between my soul and divine nature of God. God created my soul and sometimes my soul can get some inspiration and that is more usual for moraly high people. I am not moraly high yet I can see that. Soul of Jesus was very high and could take revelation and Jesus had very powerful connection with God. but there is no need to say that God did dwell in body of Jesus. That is an excessive thought or an excessive love for Jesus. We should not love some one else more than God. God give all loves for hearts to make them love each other and to love God.

Divine nature and human nature joined! That makes God to be consist of two natures. And we add Holy Spirit and Father. That is 3 gods and half god. And the assumed children of Jesus plus. hımmm… We will have more gods than Greek mythology gods!

The human being is a composite of soul and body. The body cannot exist with the rational soul, but the rational soul can exist without the corruptible body. There is only one person per soul and body, but the person only truly exists when there are both soul and body. This means at conception until death, and from resurrection on. For the person of God the Son (divine nature) assumed the created human rational soul and body of Jesus Christ and so the person of God the Son, has now, both the original divine nature and the human nature. But there is only one God in three Persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, also know as the Most Holy Trinity, which not three gods, because the persons are subsisting *relations of opposition *which do not imply any composition.

 

[hasantas]

The human being is a composite of soul and body. The body cannot exist with the rational soul, but the rational soul can exist without the corruptible body. There is only one person per soul and body, but the person only truly exists when there are both soul and body. This means at conception until death, and from resurrection on. For the person of God the Son (divine nature) assumed the created human rational soul and body of Jesus Christ and so the person of God the Son, has now, both the original divine nature and the human nature. But there is only one God in three Persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, also know as the Most Holy Trinity, which not three gods, because the persons are subsisting *relations of opposition *which do not imply any composition.

Can you explain how divine nature assume the human nature? Is that possible? What does that mean? To assume something material it is need to be material! Anyhow you said God had incarnated!

Aquinas say God has three persons. What is the person in Jesus’s body? A human or a god? Jesus always was used to live, talk, eat etc with human nature. When Jesus talk He always talk to Father as a human nature. There is no any mark of divinity on Jesus body. The human nature talk to Father. I mean there is no any other essence or person who has divine nature as Son. Human natured Jesus talk to divine natured Father. Where is divine natured Son? If a divine nature would had assume the human nature of Jesus then Jesus would behave according to that divine nature. But Jesus was always huma. He think like a human, eat like a human where is divine natured Son god? Son God has no presence in body of Jesus and Son God has no presence out of body then where is that god?

God is not something to occur through some relations. God is always eternal. Personality of God is always eternal. God do not be divided or another god do not emerged from God.

 

[hasantas]

Does the roundness of an apple mix with its redness? Or are the roundness and redness two attributes that don’t affect each other?

Roundness and redness are different attributes. You cannot add some roundness to redness. Same human and divine nature are different. You cannot add or join one to other. And yet if you say there are two natures in one body then that is a mixture. That mixture is not possible for our issue but you assume as if it is so I talk in that way.

 

[Vico]

Can you explain how divine nature assume the human nature? Is that possible? What does that mean? To assume something material it is need to be material! Anyhow you said God had incarnated!

Aquinas say God has three persons. What is the person in Jesus’s body? A human or a god? Jesus always was used to live, talk, eat etc with human nature. When Jesus talk He always talk to Father as a human nature. There is no any mark of divinity on Jesus body. The human nature talk to Father. I mean there is no any other essence or person who has divine nature as Son. Human natured Jesus talk to divine natured Father. Where is divine natured Son? If a divine nature would had assume the human nature of Jesus then Jesus would behave according to that divine nature. But Jesus was always huma. He think like a human, eat like a human where is divine natured Son god? Son God has no presence in body of Jesus and Son God has no presence out of body then where is that god?

God is not something to occur through some relations. God is always eternal. Personality of God is always eternal. God do not be divided or another god do not emerged from God.

Yes, God does not occur through some relations. God is not an occurrence at all, but eternal. The relations of opposition are essential and do not import composition.

From the Modern Catholic Dictionary,** Incarnation**:

The union of the divine nature of the Son of God with human nature in the person of Jesus Christ. … His divine nature was substantially united to our human nature. …

So this requires understanding three terms:

• person
• divine nature
• human nature

The human nature is an immortal soul which combined with a corruptible body we call this a human person.

The divine nature is The Trinity which is absolutely simple and has no composition. The persons of the Trinity are the essential relations of opposition.

God appropriates to Itself human nature, and takes the place of the human person, so the human nature of Jesus Christ supplies the place of the human person, and without change in God because all the change was in the flesh. Because this is from conception, a human person never exists, rather this is divine person from eternity.

From conception, in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the human rational soul of Jesus Christ was created and God assumed the man that was conceived.

 

[petra22]

Can you explain how divine nature assume the human nature? Is that possible? What does that mean? To assume something material it is need to be material! Anyhow you said God had incarnated!

Aquinas say God has three persons. What is the person in Jesus’s body? A human or a god? Jesus always was used to live, talk, eat etc with human nature. When Jesus talk He always talk to Father as a human nature. There is no any mark of divinity on Jesus body. The human nature talk to Father. I mean there is no any other essence or person who has divine nature as Son. Human natured Jesus talk to divine natured Father. Where is divine natured Son? If a divine nature would had assume the human nature of Jesus then Jesus would behave according to that divine nature. But Jesus was always huma. He think like a human, eat like a human where is divine natured Son god? Son God has no presence in body of Jesus and Son God has no presence out of body then where is that god?

God is not something to occur through some relations. God is always eternal. Personality of God is always eternal. God do not be divided or another god do not emerged from God.

Jesus walked on water, walked through locked doors, healed the sick, fed the hungry 4,000 and 5,000. Jesus quieted the winds, raised people and himself from the dead. What else does he have to do to show his divine nature???

 

[PRmerger]

Jesus walked on water, walked through locked doors, healed the sick, fed the hungry 4,000 and 5,000. Jesus quieted the winds, raised people and himself from the dead. What else does he have to do to show his divine nature???

Indeed.

The biggie, of course, is that HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.

Alleluia!

Nothing can trump that.

 

[PRmerger]

Can you explain how divine nature assume the human nature? Is that possible?

Sure.

Why would that not be possible?

 

[PRmerger]

Jesus was born without a father. Jesus was direct conlude and product of Father(God). When God decide to do something God say be! And it is. Jesus born was a miracle. God said be!(that is word and that is because Jesus is called “word of God”) And Jesus was born without a father. In same way Adam was created even Adam was created without a father and mother!

Yes! This is all very Christian.