If there were a Pro-Life Democratic candidate

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Reckon that murder is secondary to that too, huh?
Pretty facile excuse - pretty twisted logic.
 
The Constitution has been around since nearly the beginning of the Republic. It can be changed, but it can’t be ignored.
If people do not like the law, the have venues to change the law. But they do not have the right to break the law. Unless they wish to suffer the consequences.
Unless you are the present President of the United States. Then you can do whatever you want for as long as you are in office.
 
You opinion, EXdrinker. But the facts are the facts.
Insurance companies sell health insurance to make money. They more premiums they sell and the less they pay out, the bigger the profit.
Until the government steps in and provides an alternative, costs will continue to rise. Because profit is the bottom line for health insurers. And they never can seem to make too much profit, can they?
 
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The Constitution has been around since nearly the beginning of the Republic. It can be changed, but it can’t be ignored.
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Of course it can. It gets ignored all the time. We have a tremendously bloated government which exists outside of its constitutional limits.
 
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I think many Catholic voters look at the abortion issue in a way that though they do not like abortion, they feel that it does not affect their lives and it is not a huge issue for them because of that.
 
Could be. I, on the other hand, take abortion because of the “health” loophole very personally. I am one of those severely genetically deformed people. It is estimated that 90% of the people who would grow up to look like me are aborted.
 
One thing that is not discussed much when it comes to Pro-Life is the use of contraceptive pills and contraceptive devices.
Should contraceptive pills and devices be outlaws, along with abortion?
 
Our government is bloated, because neither the Republicans nor the Democrats know how to budget and spent money.
They both waste money on what they both believe to be important, especially the GOP. Between spending too much on defense and too much on giving tax cuts to the rich, they continually drive up the national debt. The biggest chunks of the debt have came during the Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and present administrations.
 
There used to be laws against contraception. I doubt that one would get much support to battle what has now been legal for a century.
 
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Our government is bloated, because neither the Republicans nor the Democrats know how to budget and spent money.
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We are bloated because we spend on programs that are unconstitutional like education and health care, just to name a couple. Congress does not manage money wisely, but they raise money in defiance of article 1, section 8.

And I’m not sure I understand you referring to this as “our” government. Am I mixing you up with someone else or are you from another country? Not the USA.
 
If and when abortion is made illegal, I believe contraceptive pills and devices will be the next things to be made illegal.
 
I am an American.
Money is not well-spent on education.
Teachers are grossly underpaid. As for health care, we in this country pay more and get less, because of the system that rewards insurance companies, big Pharma, hospitals, etc.
The thing is that we have enough money, but the priorities are skewed.
We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on defense. But we are more likely to be killed by a home-grown terrorist with an assault-type weapon than we are to be attacked by another country.
 
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I am an American.
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Thanks. I got you mixed up with someone else.
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Money is not well-spent on education.
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No federal government should be involved in education. So any money spent at the federal level is not well spent.
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Teachers are grossly underpaid.
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In my opinion, they are grossly overpaid.
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As for health care, we in this country pay more and get less, because of the system that rewards insurance companies, big Pharma, hospitals, etc.
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Agreed.
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The thing is that we have enough money, but the priorities are skewed.
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Agreed as well. Our priorities ought to start with respecting the Constitution.
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We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on defense.
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I personally believe that our military budget is probably the most poorly mismanaged of all. I worked for a short time as a civilian in the defense department. I saw massive waste. It was very disheartening.
 
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No federal government should be involved in education. So any money spent at the federal level is not well spent.
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Some states do not spend enough on public education. If not for federal money, the children in these states would receive a sub-standard education.
 
Also a Texan here. When you consider both that they get about 2 1/2 - 3 months a year off, and that education quality is stagnant is some places, falling precipitously in others—I also just finished my senior year, I’ve seen all the garbage firsthand—teachers are paid anywhere on a scale of a bit above average to, yes, overpaid.

Education needs to be given back to the states. Subsidiarity, right? The federal government ought not be in education, and even the states should only have a supervisory role. Should be as localized as possible.
 
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Until the government steps in and provides an alternative, costs will continue to rise. Because profit is the bottom line for health insurers. And they never can seem to make too much profit, can they?
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You have this backwards; the government eliminates options by forcing insurance companies to cover many things most people do not need. That is where much of the costs come from. I just want insurance for hospitalization and catastrophic coverage but am unable to get that due to government stepping in. It used to be “insurance” to mitigate the financial costs of rare events. Now it is a health plan that covers hang nails and coughs even though I do not want or need that type of plan.
 
It is a public health consideration. I don’t want to be going to work around a bunch of congested, sick, coughing people who won’t go to the doctor because their insurance doesn’t cover the office visit, the testing, and the medication. And that is exactly what happens.

20 years ago when my kid was in school the same family kept bringing headlice into the school because they wouldn’t go to the doctor and get the prescriptive shampoo because all they had was catastrophic insurance (the over the counter shampoo doesn’t work and you have to buy an application for each person in the family). Everyone else’s doctor wrote them a script for a huge bottle of the prescription stuff for 5 bucks. Finally the school nurse told the parents to keep the kids at home until they were willing to treat everyone in the family at the same time. Intelligent people (mother had a doctorate) who acted like they never took 7th grade biology.

Nope. I want the people I come in contact with to have full access to health care.
 
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