If we are bound to vote for the lesser evil. Shouldn't we all vote for the American Solidarity Party?

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That is not true. They do have an objectional platform and are not perfectly aligned. We vote for candidates, not parties, and the candidate of the American Solidarity Party supports Gay “marriage.” Unfortunately, all party candidates support this now, but no, the American Solidarity Candidate is not perfectly aligned with Catholic Teaching, as no candidate is.


Climate Policy is a prudential judgement and is not anywhere near the equivalent of abortion, which is an intrinsic evil. You can vote for the American Solidarity Candidate if you want, which is basically equivalent to throwing away your vote, but Trump supports no intrinsic evil things that the American Solidarity Party does not. And Trump actually has a shot at winning.

Personally, I think God would want us to vote for the candidate who actually has a shot at stopping the many intrinsic evils supported by Biden (Abortion, Embryonic Stem Cell Research, Suing Nuns, etc.), but if you truly feel you cannot in good conscience vote for Trump because of his intrinsic evil stance on gay marriage, that is okay.
 
HopingforGodtohelp said:
That is not true. They do have an objectional platform and are not perfectly aligned. We vote for candidates, not parties, and the candidate of the American Solidarity Party supports Gay “marriage.” Unfortunately, all party candidates support this now, but no, the American Solidarity Candidate is not perfectly aligned with Catholic Teaching, as no candidate is.
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I’m not sure where iSideWith got Brian Carroll’s position on marriage, but this is what the American Solidarity Party’s Platform says about marriage and family:

The natural family, founded on the marriage of one man and one woman, is the fundamental unit and basis of every human society. Family breakdown is a key contributor to widespread social problems in this country. In order to promote stable families, it is in the interest of the state to support marriage recognized as the exclusive union of one man and one woman for life. At the same time, we recognize that the state must support the needs of people—especially children, as well as the elderly and disabled—in families of all kinds.

After quickly gleaning Brian Carroll’s personal campaign website, I don’t see any statements directly related to gay marriage.

Edit: It appears that the answer on iSideWith was submitted personally.
 
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Have you heard the starfish story??.. Id rather be thrown back and saved today than be sacrificed for a tomorrow that is never quranteed.Abortion vs climate problems…Maybe rhetoric should be taught rather than liberal immoral politics…Maybe religion should be practiced and shared rather than gummed to death…maybe we should let the Chinese communist party decide everything…Just ask Taiwan Tibet and Hong Kong…name the greatest bishops in China…
 
I studied the ASP platform tonight. I could not in good conscience support this party.
 
Anonkun said:
The fact of the matter is that homeless people make cities much more dangerous for more responsible citizens, and so it should be a governmental duty to ensure community safety.
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And you honestly think that imprisonment is the only solution? Not, I don’t know, treatment for their medical issues and provision of housing?
Formon said:
I could not in good conscience support this party.
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Why? What’s deficient in the party platform?
 
Voting for a third party also cause both major parties to shift position to court the third party voters.

There’s a lot of us Catholics, and we should have the clout to change both parties.
 
Anonkun said:
In my experience, homeless people generally fall into 3 categories.
1-Mentally Ill
2-Drug addicts
3-Pushed out due to rent
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Not to mention, drug abuse, especially long term drug abuse can lead to mental illness.

Those who have fallen on hard times in spite of their best efforts can be helped with charity. They aren’t the majority of the homeless.

It is much more difficult to help someone who doesn’t want to be helped without enabling their addiction.

Also more difficult to solve the problem of mental illness, especially due to long term drug abuse. The brain has already been damaged.
 
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Anonkun said:
In my experience, homeless people generally fall into 3 categories.
1-Mentally Ill
2-Drug addicts
3-Pushed out due to rent
Members of groups 1 and 2 far dwarf the third kind, for whom I naturally have more sympathy.
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You should have sympathy for the mentally ill at least. It’s not like people choose to be mentally ill.
Anonkun said:
Prisons primarily serve a purpose to keep dangerous and noncompliant individuals outside of polite society.
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If someone is full on psychotic and can’t function in society, they might very well need to be institutionalized. It’s just that the institution they belong in isn’t a prison. They need to be in a mental asylum where the staff is trained to deal with psychiatric illness.
 
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F_Marturana said:
There’s a lot of us Catholics, and we should have the clout to change both parties.
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We had a great homily last night, are rare political foray for our priest, but then the readings were kind of on the nose, starting with, " You shall not molest or oppress the alien." Abortion was hammered home, as well as the impossibility of gay marriage, but compassion and a place in society for protection for these people.

Any way, he made one comment that I thought hit spoke to the root of the problem. It seems like in this day there is no political home for the Catholic. I do not like the uphill battle of raising a third party to replace one of the others, but until that happens, or the parties shift again, we are the aliens in a strange land.
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for a good man to do nothing…Choose life…is there another prudent choice than to hold your nose and vote for the administration which despite a number of failings Has disrupted as he said he would …at least the argument for me was made clear when BuyDem-Harris took up the flag of death…we can change everything else…but not the churches position on destroying life…or helping to do so. if West Virginia Democrats can support Trump surely the rest of us should…and pray for pro-life candidates…if everyone who claims to be catholic voted pro-life…we would only see pro-life candidates…
 
Thank you!!! I get tired of people telling me I’m throwing my vote away. I am CHOOSING a candidate that I identify with and feel they represent both my fiscal and social views. We need to just get away from this two party system. The Dems and Reps have good ideas that are cancelled out by the other party. I would rather have a good-good situation than good-bad situation that the Dems and Reps give me. And the American Solidarity Party has both good fiscal/labor views and great social views in my eyes.
 
The iSideWith answer was submitted by the candidate himself.

It is good that it isn’t on his website, but that seems a bit sketchy
 
In my eyes, since we had two very poor candidates running for President in 2016 (Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump) that was a great opportunity to scare both of the parties with the rise of a third, fourth or even fifth strong performing political party. What did our country have to lose? Not that many people wanted either the Dem or the Rep candidate. I blame it on the ill-informed and unmotivated voters. I really think we should have tests on who can vote, they can be simple tests like “name two topics your candidate supports” and “who is your candidates running mate”. That would probably eliminate half of the people voting right there. As you can tell, I don’t hold too much faith in what we Americans say. They are summed up in the polls that the news media runs; their views change like the wind. Extremely saddening.
 
Anonkun said:
In my experience, homeless people generally fall into 3 categories.
1-Mentally Ill
2-Drug addicts
3-Pushed out due to rent
Members of groups 1 and 2 far dwarf the third kind, for whom I naturally have more sympathy. The fact of the matter is that homeless people make cities much more dangerous for more responsible citizens,…
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In today’s Gospel, Jesus teaches the greatest commandment - to love the Lord your God with everything you have, and your neighbor as yourself. Jesus also teaches that everyone is our neighbor, and worthy of our love. Jesus also teaches that when the poor cry out to the Lord for justice, they will be heard. I don’t recall Jesus every saying that homeless people are not respectable and should be locked up. This is a moral issue, and the posting above is on the wrong side.
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
Jesus also teaches that everyone is our neighbor, and worthy of our love.
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Did He really teach that or is this just wishful thinking on your part with no Scriptural evidence to back it up?
pnewton said:
" You shall not molest or oppress the alien."
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That does not mean, “You shall give them full rights for they are the true Americans and deserve to replace you, bigot.”
 
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WingedHussar said:
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LeafByNiggle:
Jesus also teaches that everyone is our neighbor, and worthy of our love.
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Did He really teach that or is this just wishful thinking on your part with no Scriptural evidence to back it up?
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That’s what our priest said today in his homily.
 
In our state NC Write-In candidate has to be certified for the vote to count. One of which requirements is 500 signatures.
 
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