If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic?

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2ndGen said:
That was a chronological bible.

Not “the” NIV bible.

…a “version” of the NIVersion.

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It’s the same text.

If you ever darken the door at a non-Catholic Christian bookstore you will find the NIV presented in many different ways.

Kind of like I can buy the NAB from several different publishers as well as the RSV, it’s the same book.
 
Now, for those of you who have stated that the Pharisees were infallible, how do you explain that:
a.) They taught the corban rule.

and

b.) They didn’t recognize Jesus.
 
Pwrlftr said:
The Church of Satan didn’t publish the NIV, Harper Collins is one of many who publish the NIV who also happens to publish the satanic bible.

It’s not true that only one company owns the NIV. You can buy the NIV from many publishers, Zondervan is just one.
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Zondervan is a subsidiary of Harper Collins.
 
Namesake said:
Theology has no interest in the recipe for bread. But since you are Catholic, you of course are correct as always. You all defend Catholicism as though you are defending Jesus. It isn’t the same regardless of how often you hide there.

I’m sure glad I found this site. It brings back memories from my childhood growing up with mostly Catholics. Now I remember why I would never become a Catholic. Not very nice people generally.
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Theology has no interest?

He was “teaching” his followers incorrectly. That’s theology. Teaching.

And what does him being wrong have to do with Catholicism?

I never referred to Catholicism when proving him wrong, but to the scriptures.

You’re the one injecting Catholicism here and changing the subject when I proved “you” wrong too as to “what” theology actually “is”.

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2ndGen said:
Theology has no interest?

He was “teaching” his followers incorrectly. That’s theology. Teaching.

And what does him being wrong have to do with Catholicism?

I never referred to Catholicism when proving him wrong, but to the scriptures.

You’re the one injecting Catholicism here and changing the subject when I proved “you” wrong too as to “what” theology actually “is”.

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Like I said, you are always correct. That maybe should worry you.
 
Pwrlftr said:
Now, for those of you who have stated that the Pharisees were infallible, how do you explain that:
a.) They taught the corban rule.

and

b.) They didn’t recognize Jesus.
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You still haven’t proven that Jesus stated that they weren’t ifallible.

On top of that, Jesus told us to do as they taught us.

Are you saying that Jesus would tell us to follow men who taught fallibly?
 
Namesake said:
Like I said, you are always correct. That maybe should worry you.
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What should worry you is that you were “corrected” and you were wrong to believe that theology had nothing to do with teaching.
 
2ndGen said:
Pwrlftr;3206715:
You mean, the same, but different?

If it’s the same, why change it’s name?

Different ways? Why? Why not just one representation? Would you say different “versions”?

Which NAB/RSV’s? The Protestant versions?
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2ndG,

The NIV is the NIV is the NIV. The ESV is the ESV is the ESV. The NAB is the NAB is the NAB.

You can have a study bible, a life application bible, a students bible, a soldier’s bible, etc. but whatever translation they use is still that translation. The cover may be different, there may be study notes, the study notes may be geard toward archaeology, apologetics, history or life applications but that doesn’t change the translation one whit.
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2ndGen said:
What should worry you is that you were “corrected” and you were wrong to believe that theology had nothing to do with teaching.
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I think you are representative of Catholicism. Maybe that should worry other Catholics.
 
Pwrlftr said:
2ndGen;3206760:
2ndG,

The NIV is the NIV is the NIV. The ESV is the ESV is the ESV. The NAB is the NAB is the NAB.

You can have a study bible, a life application bible, a students bible, a soldier’s bible, etc. but whatever translation they use is still that translation. The cover may be different, there may be study notes, the study notes may be geard toward archaeology, apologetics, history or life applications but that doesn’t change the translation one whit.
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Why do you find it so difficult to just say that there are different “versions” of the NIV?

Trust me, it’ll be very liberating for you…go ahead, try it… “verrrr-ggeeeaaahhnnsss”! Versions!
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Namesake said:
I think you are representative of Catholicism. Maybe that should worry other Catholics.
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The different in my faith and othe faiths is that we dont’ believe that we are made up of the righteous. We believe that we are made up of sinners and imperfect and fallible people.

And that’s fine by me…we are the ones who Jesus came for. The ones that know that they aren’t perfect.

You:
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week; I give tithes of all that I get.

Us:
13 But the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God, be thou merciful to me a sinner.

14 I say unto you, This man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; but he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

(Luke 18)
 
2ndGen said:
The different in my faith and othe faiths is that we dont’ believe that we are made up of the righteous. We believe that we are made up of sinners and imperfect and fallible people.

And that’s fine by me…we are the ones who Jesus came for. The ones that know that they aren’t perfect.

You:
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week; I give tithes of all that I get.

Us:
13 But the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God, be thou merciful to me a sinner.

14 I say unto you, This man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; but he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

(Luke 18)
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You are pretty messed up.
 
2ndGen said:
You still haven’t proven that Jesus stated that they weren’t ifallible.
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Since the Pharisees taught the corban rule I would think that would be enough to put to rest any claim that the Pharisees were infallible.

You still haven’t answered my question(s) though…maybe I missed it?

BTW, Jesus didn’t say that the Sadducees were infallible either. Should we suppose the Sadducees were infalible as well as the Pharisees? Using what appears to be your logic I suppose you beleive the Sadducees were infallible as well as Pontius Pilate, Herod, etc. Afterall, Jesus never said they weren’t infallible.
2ndGen said:
On top of that, Jesus told us to do as they taught us.

Are you saying that Jesus would tell us to follow men who taught fallibly?
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Jesus’ words are recorded as:
Matthew 23:1-3 NAU Matthew 23:1 (a)Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples, 2 saying: "(a)The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3 therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them.

Paul said:
Colossians 3:22 22 (a)Slaves, in all things obey those who are your masters 1)on earth, (b)not with (2)external service, as those who merely please men, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord.
and

Ephesians 6:1 NAU Ephesians 6:1 (a)Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

We see again that following your logic, one must assume that because one has authority:
a.) slave owners are infallible
and
b.) parents are infallible

Having authority does not mean one is infallible.
 
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