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rlg94086
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Indeed. And, helping your neighbor avoid sin that could destine them for hell would be one of the best ways to show your love for them.
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ElizabethAnne
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Feelings lie.
It is not merciful to deprive someone of necessary information that could lead to them amending their life and finding eternal comfort with God. This is not about judging people; it is about loving people enough to want what is best for them.
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buffalo
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This is called fraternal correction. True Christian charity demands fraternal correction.
Fraternal Correction
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buffalo
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Fraternal Correction
15 11 "If your brother 12 sins (against you), go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. 16 13 If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that âevery fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.â 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. 14 If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. 18 %between%
15 11 "If your brother 12 sins (against you), go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. 16 13 If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that âevery fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.â 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. 14 If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. 18 %between%
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Amolibri
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I am wondering why the thread didnât end at this point. Why is there so much talk about sex here?
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Originally Posted by Teen4Christ
Active wasnât the best word, Iâve had oral but not anal sex.
Yes it is
Manny says:
and its still a sin to have oral sex. What you get out of it is pleasure.
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mercygate
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Completely outside of Christian moral principles and whether you are destined for Hell, it is just common sense that as a teen you should NOT be sexually active AT ALL. You have been sold a rotten bill of goods if you have been told that it is a good thing to act on these impulses at this point in your life.I try to live a good christian life for the most part, so am I? I believe iâm not but I would appreciate your take on the matter
Our sexuality is laden with all kinds of things that are hard enough for responsible adults to manage, much less kids.
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Teen4Christ
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Yes, I do realize that. I regret the past, but I canât change it. I know the lord forgives me
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mercygate
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Then you are no longer engaging in sexual activity? Praise the Lord!Yes, I do realize that. I regret the past, but I canât change it. I know the lord forgives me
I know itâs hard. About eight hundred years ago I was also a âTeen4Christâ with hormones. Doesnât matter whether you have SSA or youâre straight. The fight is still the fight. The good news is that after about 50 years it gets easier. Not a whole LOT easier, but easier.
So then the OP is answered: you have repented and amended your life. Ticket to Hell: shredded!
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Teen4Christ
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I mean iâm not active right now, I might be active someday, then again I might not, I just know I wonât rush in to anything anymore, either way, I have indeed been answered, so this thread can be closed. God bless you all.Then you are no longer engaging in sexual activity? Praise the Lord!
I know itâs hard. About eight hundred years ago I was also a âTeen4Christâ with hormones. Doesnât matter whether you have SSA or youâre straight. The fight is still the fight. The good news is that after about 50 years it gets easier. Not a whole LOT easier, but easier.
So then the OP is answered: you have repented and amended your life. Ticket to Hell: shredded!
Please close this thread if you get the chance mods.
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LCMS_No_More
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And thatâs the core of the fight. We donât know what we will do tomorrow, but we can form the intention to NOT sin. Once the decision is made, temptation will come and weâve already made the choice.I mean iâm not active right now, I might be active someday, then again I might not, I just know I wonât rush in to anything anymore, either way, I have indeed been answered, so this thread can be closed. God bless you all.
Please close this thread if you get the chance mods.
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SoCalRC
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Some of these should be read in their entirety, not paraphrased. For example, 1Cor6:9 reads (Douay-Rheims):
âKnow you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers:â
If we take 1Cor6:9-20 we get a long list, seemingly including homosexual acts:
â9 Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers: 10 Nor the effeminate nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God. 11 And such some of you were. But you are washed: but you are sanctified: but you are justified: in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful to me: but all things are not expedient. All things are lawful to me: but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Meat for the belly and the belly for the meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. But the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord: and the Lord for the body. 14 Now God hath raised up the Lord and will raise us up also by his power. 15 Know you not that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid! 16 Or know you not that he who is joined to a harlot is made one body? For they shall be, saith he, two in one flesh. 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit. 18 Fly fornication. Every sin that a man doth is without the body: but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 Or know you not that your members are the temple of the Holy Ghost, who is in you, whom you have from God: and you are not your own? 20 For you are bought with a great price. Glorify and bear God in your body.â
But notice that St. Paul is not only condemning homosexual acts, but fornication, period. Remember, Paul thought that Christâs return was imminent and that total abstinance was the best path for a Christian. Marriage was only a second choice for people too weak to abstain.
Also, in 1Cor, Paul is addressing a problem of behavior among gentile Christians that he believes even âpagansâ would not engage in. Historians also argue that Paul may have been addressing rumors about his own behavior. Still, the section brings up a lot of very valid points. We are all sinners. Who has not made a minor theft, coveted, or been desirous of earthly posessions?
Jesus warned us that salvation is a ânarrowâ opening and that our concept of rightous and Godâs would differ. In fact, each time he was asked about salvation he made a point of undermining the importance of strict interpretation of Scripture (ex. in the Good Samaritan, the Priest was following the cleanliness laws at the cost of higher moral law).
So the legitimate answer to this question is, no one truly knows. Jesus told us only to Love God with all our hearts and Love our neighbors as ourselves (Luke 10-27-28). In his description of final judgement (see Matt 25:31-46), he used the same basic criteria as his other responses to the question, all related to social justice.
The Catholic Churchâs position (which I do personally believe has apostolic authority) is that homosexual acts are sinful, but homosexuals are fellow children of God, whom we should love as ourselves. However, masterbation is also a mortal sin, as is contraception. That is, they should be confessed before receiving communion. Many individual Catholics may have an opinion about some sins being more mortal than others, but by and large the Church acknowledges the position of Christ - that Godâs standard for salvation is not ours.
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mcrob2
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I think that you I am Roman Catholic and I practice my faith and my church does know that I am homosexual, the church might not agree with it but i donât think that you should have to be somebody that you are not. Be yourself if people dont like it then they are not your true friends.
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Teen4Christ
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buffalo
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True Christian charity demands fraternal correction.
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mercygate
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All Christians are called to be âsomebody that we are not.â We are called to lives that show the light of Christ on His terms, not our own.
You do not say whether you are living a homosexual lifestyle. âFriendsâ who would affirm ANY life choice contrary to the gospel â cohabitation, having an affair, dealing in drugs, performing abortions â are not your true friends.
Living for Christ means choosing ALL of Him. This can take time. It may take years to embrace him fully.
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Teen4Christ
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Donât listen to people who say who you are is wrong(well listen to them, but donât let them trick you) more and more studies are saying that being gay is genetic, heck, there was even a study not too long ago that said gay men and straight woman have very silmilar brains. That would explain it quite well.
Why would god create you to be this way if it was wrong? he wouldnât. Always remember that, I do.
Why would god create you to be this way if it was wrong? he wouldnât. Always remember that, I do.
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mercygate
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People are not saying âwho you areâ is wrong. You havenât been paying attention.
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withwind
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Monkey has about 99% matching DNA to the human beings. What would you think of that?
We all have our cross to carry. Why would God create this world and allow people to commit sins?
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Teen4Christ
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I know they havenât been saying being gay is wrong, but homosexual acts are wrong. Thatâs what I meant, sorry.
Let me reword it, never let anyone ever tell you your love for someone is wrong.
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mercygate
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What you may choose to do about it could be morally catastrophic â or morally strong and upright: manly and honorable.- Status