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It looks like that once again you guys have given zerinus the opportunity to behave like a horse’s patoot. Zerinus is a thoroughly programmed member of the Borg and regurgitates mormon “doctrine” mindlessly when prodded. I maintain that if you do not respond to his inanities, he may eventually wander off to annoy (maybe the protestants?) One can hope. Just my 2 cents.
 
It looks like that once again you guys have given zerinus the opportunity to behave like a horse’s patoot. Zerinus is a thoroughly programmed member of the Borg and regurgitates mormon “doctrine” mindlessly when prodded. I maintain that if you do not respond to his inanities, he may eventually wander off to annoy (maybe the protestants?) One can hope. Just my 2 cents.
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😃 really… Things were a lot tougher back in Nam, huh. This annoyance thing is actually easy.

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😃 really… Things were a lot tougher back in Nam, huh. This annoyance thing is actually easy.

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Actually, he doesn’t annoy me so much as he provides me the opportunity to point out his immaturity and lack of wisdom. He very successfully points out the true poverty of mormon belief. All this talk about “burning in the bosom” , “knowing” that the BOM is “true”, all this stuff is just “pie in the sky” that basically boils down to very wishful thinking with absolutely no proof of any kind. One is certainly free to believe in fairy stories, but I hate the idea that someone is pinning their eternal salvation on such lies. Zerinus is promoting religious snake-oil in the guise of good medicine.
 
Zerinus, do LDS put their book of mormon, on a par with the holy bible?
Do you believe the book of mormon is inspired of God?

Does the LDS church believe that God is still giving your church new revelations from heaven, after the last death of the apostle?

How does one enter into the kingdom of God through the LDS church?

What does one have to do to be saved?

Does God still allow multiple wives to be married to one man in your LDS church?

What happens to your soul when you die?

What happens when Jesus returns?
 
I’m not Zerinus, but as someone who has been a Mormon for the past 38 years I think I can answer your questions.
Zerinus, do LDS put their book of mormon, on a par with the holy bible?
Do you believe the book of mormon is inspired of God?
The Bible is only true “as far as it is translated correctly”. The Book of Mormon, we are taught, has been correctly translated by Joseph Smith.

In that regard the Book of Mormon trumps the Bible, but the Bible is still held in high esteem.
Does the LDS church believe that God is still giving your church new revelations from heaven, after the last death of the apostle?
Theoretically, yes. Practically, no. It’s a funny game we play.

For example: Brigham Young gave revelations that declared African-Americans to be animals who had no souls, and authorized the blood atonement (that’s a human ritual sacrifice) for anyone who had sexual relations with anyone who had any African heritage.

This was accepted as a revelation and the unchanging word of God until the IRS threatened to remove the LDS church’s tax exempt status as they were indulging in racial segregation. In 1978, President Spencer W Kimball got a new revelation. God changed his mind, just in time for the tax man! All of a sudden, Blacks weren’t “cursed descendants of Ham, and the seed of Cain” any more. They were human beings too!

That was accepted as a revelation until just a few years ago. Now, guess what? Brigham Young never spoke as a prophet when he condemned Blacks. He was just “giving his own personal opinion”. Spencer Kimball never overturned anything. Blacks were always accepted as full members in the LDS church.

Does that make sense? Don’t worry, it doesn’t make sense to most Mormons either.
How does one enter into the kingdom of God through the LDS church?
There are different levels to the kingdom of God in Mormon mythology. To get into the highest level (the one where you get to actually be in the presence of Heavenly Father) one has to not only be a faithful Mormon, but he has to be married, to have paid all his tithes and offerings, and to have memorized a lot of ridiculous signs and tokens in LDS temples.

Catholics and others who lived good lives will be accepted to one of the lower levels of heaven.
What does one have to do to be saved?
Depends upon the definition of “saved”.
Does God still allow multiple wives to be married to one man in your LDS church?
Yes. Part of my beef with my church is the fact that I can be sealed to more than one woman, but if I were to die, my wife would not be able to be sealed to anyone new. Quite sexist, no?
What happens to your soul when you die?
What happens when Jesus returns?
Both depend upon the status of the deceased and his works on earth.

Pay Lay Ale…

LaMar
 
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IPay Lay Ale…
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You in big trouble now, boy!
Paul,
LaMar holds little sacred in the traditional sense of the word, but you who seem to be a faithful believing Catholic might reconsider the pleasure you take in the mocking of my faith.

Personally, I refuse to be offended by such things, but I will point out what I consider to be a lack of Christian charity when I see it. I am often surprised when Catholics who suffer so much mocking of that which they consider sacred are so willing to mock others.

I would suggest you reconsider your response.
Charity, TOm
 
Paul,
LaMar holds little sacred in the traditional sense of the word, but you who seem to be a faithful believing Catholic might reconsider the pleasure you take in the mocking of my faith.

Personally, I refuse to be offended by such things, but I will point out what I consider to be a lack of Christian charity when I see it. I am often surprised when Catholics who suffer so much mocking of that which they consider sacred are so willing to mock others.

I would suggest you reconsider your response.
Charity, TOm
LaMar seems to be a rather tongue-in-cheek mormon(probably a rather healthy attitude) and PaulDupre recognizes that there is much humor in the foibles of mormonism as well. Once on a trip to SLC, I saw bottles of PayLayAle for sale in the mall opposite ZCMI, along with bottles of Polygamy Ale in the same store. Of course, I had to have some. It was quite tasty, although I had a strange desire to aquire multiple wives after I had drunk it.😃 We have no corner on mockery, witness some of zerinus’ posts on Catholicism.
 
LaMar seems to be a rather tongue-in-cheek mormon(probably a rather healthy attitude) and PaulDupre recognizes that there is much humor in the foibles of mormonism as well. Once on a trip to SLC, I saw bottles of PayLayAle for sale in the mall opposite ZCMI, along with bottles of Polygamy Ale in the same store. Of course, I had to have some. It was quite tasty, although I had a strange desire to aquire multiple wives after I had drunk it.😃 We have no corner on mockery, witness some of zerinus’ posts on Catholicism.
PUH-LEAZE get your facts straight! It is Polygamy Porter, a cousin of Rockwell’s. No man who drinks a measly pale ALE could withstand the forces of more than one wife! Seriously, what are you thinking??? Why Have Just One?

(One of my favorite Wasatch beers.)
 
PUH-LEAZE get your facts straight! It is Polygamy Porter, a cousin of Rockwell’s. No man who drinks a measly pale ALE could withstand the forces of more than one wife! Seriously, what are you thinking??? Why Have Just One?

(One of my favorite Wasatch beers.)
You’re right! Polygamy Porter(take some home to the wives) How could I forget! I nearly wet myself laughing. I’m just sorry that I didn’t get the t-shirt that went with it.👍
 
PUH-LEAZE get your facts straight! It is Polygamy Porter, a cousin of Rockwell’s. No man who drinks a measly pale ALE could withstand the forces of more than one wife! Seriously, what are you thinking??? Why Have Just One?

(One of my favorite Wasatch beers.)
LaMar is Polygamy Porter? Now I understand the problem. If true, Polygamy Porter seems to be morphing into various names since he has experienced a name change on another board. LaMar! Are you Polygamy Porter for the other board?

Perhaps Rebecca is referring to a different Polygamy Porter…
 
LaMar is Polygamy Porter? Now I understand the problem. If true, Polygamy Porter seems to be morphing into various names since he has experienced a name change on another board. LaMar! Are you Polygamy Porter for the other board?

Perhaps Rebecca is referring to a different Polygamy Porter…
Polygamy Porter is not a person. It is a beer produced in Utah. It has a wide following among observant Utah mormons.:rolleyes:
 
Paul,
LaMar holds little sacred in the traditional sense of the word, but you who seem to be a faithful believing Catholic might reconsider the pleasure you take in the mocking of my faith.

Personally, I refuse to be offended by such things, but I will point out what I consider to be a lack of Christian charity when I see it. I am often surprised when Catholics who suffer so much mocking of that which they consider sacred are so willing to mock others.

I would suggest you reconsider your response.
Charity, TOm
I would go a step further and say the that LaMar hates the lds church and wishes it to disappear. His or her posts seem to reek with hatred.

As far as the ‘catholics’ who mock the lds faith on this forum, they are not really catholic. They have lost touch with god’s love and the catholic catechism.
 
Polygamy Porter is not a person. It is a beer produced in Utah. It has a wide following among observant Utah mormons.:rolleyes:
Yes, I know. But Polygamy Porter was a mormon basher on another forum. I do think that LaMar is not that Polygamy Porter. They are alike but LaMar posts in a different style.
 
LaMar is Polygamy Porter? Now I understand the problem. If true, Polygamy Porter seems to be morphing into various names since he has experienced a name change on another board. LaMar! Are you Polygamy Porter for the other board?

Perhaps Rebecca is referring to a different Polygamy Porter…

Yes, I know. But Polygamy Porter was a mormon basher on another forum. I do think that LaMar is not that Polygamy Porter. They are alike but LaMar posts in a different style.
So, you got laughed at by someone else, somewhere else, and now I’m laughing at you, and automatically I’m whoever was laughing at you all those other times.

Sure. We’re all LaMar, it’s only you and me here. Hope that helps. LOL!
 
thank you whyme. I don’t want to subscribe to this mag, though, my own Church testifies very admirably to the saving work of Jesus, as you know. i see no reason whatever to go to another church in search of Jesus, and by that I mean no disrespect for your church any more than I would disrepect any of the other hundreds of variation upon the christian theme. Each has something of value to give, but none can match the fullness of the Catholic/Universal Church. My original question though remains, as to why these four young mormons I know do not speak about Jesus. i suspect the reason lies in the particular teaching of the mormoon religion; i don’t know what it is yet, but i’ll keep thinking about this until I find out what it is, then I will raise the subject with these young people when the time is right.

As one who has a foot in both worlds, do you have any clues about this?
 
I would go a step further and say the that LaMar hates the lds church and wishes it to disappear. His or her posts seem to reek with hatred.

As far as the ‘catholics’ who mock the lds faith on this forum, they are not really catholic. They have lost touch with god’s love and the catholic catechism.
Oh Please! That’s the faith of my fathers and all that (to steal a line from Slick Mitt). If I hated Mormonism or the LDS church I’d simply wander away and join the Episcopalians, as 100,000 Mormons do every year, and that’d be the end of it.

I can predict that the LDS church probably will disappear, if we don’t get our act together. When our missionaries can’t be trusted not to vandalize the property of others and they lack any meaningful respect for people of other faiths, and when the leaders of the church refuse to take action, then something is seriously amiss. You seem to think this is fine and dandy, as has been amply proven over on the thread discussing the incident. Maybe it’s you who subconsciously wants the LDS church to wither away?
 
Hi and welcome to the thread.
As you can probably work out, sometimes people can add comments that dont make one feel so welcome, which i have been guilty of in the past.
There is another 2 mormons on here that, well, not very charitable themselves, so hopefully you can teach them some manners hehe
Anyway, enjoy your stay.
Im off o/s tomorrow, so God bless you.
Oh ! Europe, eh?? I won’t miss you if you see your way clear to take me along!! lol Have fun, be safe, and God’s traveling mercies to you! 👍 Kathie P.S. Ooooo, you will no doubt be near the WYD this year???
 
Zerinus, do LDS put their book of mormon, on a par with the holy bible?
Yes.
Do you believe the book of mormon is inspired of God?
Yes.
Does the LDS church believe that God is still giving your church new revelations from heaven, after the last death of the apostle?
Yes.
How does one enter into the kingdom of God through the LDS church?
By faith, repentance, baptism by immersion for the remission of sins, and the laying on of hands by those in authority for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
What does one have to do to be saved?
Mark 16:

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

D&C 68:

8 Go ye into all the world, preach the gospel to every creature, acting in the authority which I have given you, baptizing in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

9 And he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not shall be damned.

10 And he that believeth shall be blest with signs following, even as it is written.
Does God still allow multiple wives to be married to one man in your LDS church?
God’s laws do not change, but men’s laws sometimes interfere with practising God’s laws. This practice was permitted in the Church in its early days; but since it has been prohibited by the laws of the land, it has been discontinued. But the theological principle of it still remains valid as far a we are concerned.
What happens to your soul when you die?
We believe that the spirits of all men, when they die, are “taken home to that God who gave them life” (Alma 40:11). There the righteous are taken to a state of happiness, a state of piece and rest called paradise, where they await the resurrection. The wicked go to a state of unhappiness. After the resurrection they are judged according to their works, and each is allotted a place of happiness or unhappiness depending on how their works have been. That is a short summary.
What happens when Jesus returns?
We believe that at the Second Coming of Christ Satan will be bound, and a general resurrection of all the righteous men and women will take place that have lived on earth until that time. Then they will reign with Christ on earth for a thousand years, together with all the saints who will already be alive on earth at that time. At the end of the thousand years Satan will be loosed to tempt mankind for the last time. After the final battle between the forces of good and evil, Satan and his crew will be eternally defeated and cast into their own place, and a general resurrection will take place of all the dead, both the wicked and the righteous, who will then be judged (and rewarded) according to their works.

zerinus
 
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