Actually, I agree with you. The Amish truely live their faith to it’s fullest. I have alot of admiration for them. I especially admired them during the whole school shooting ordeal. They truely taught me a thing or two about how to live my faith more fully, especially during the most difficult times of your life.
A cheap imitation of what? What’s Catholicism imitating? Judaism with some Plato thrown in?
ummm… what?
As always for me, one person seems to hit the nail right on the head DR SCOTT HAHN!!! I have been searching for just the right quote or comment by him to at least answer some of your questions about both the Trinity and Mary. Thanks be to THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, I found the perfect text that I believe will answer your questions. I have copied just a small bit of the text because it begins with the statement that Scott has most often quoted Pope John Paul II. I think it goes a long way toward explaining the Catholic understanding of the Holy Trinity.
We do not “have a problem with it”. We choose - in general - to remember thr Risen Lord while never forgetting the suffering that He suffered on the cross. There is no porblem with the cross! My daughter sometimes wears a cross that her great grandmother gave to her to church and the ONLY comments she received were possitive. The bottom line is that we are all reminded of Christ’s sacrifice in different ways. Wearing or displaying a cross does not have anything to do with salvation (at least that I am aware of).This thread has been going on and on and on about LDS beliefs, for and against. Now I have a question to pose to Mormons that all Catholics would have about something that probably disturbes Catholics and (to be honest) often puzzles me. Why do you have such a problem with the display of a cross, with or without a corpus?
For us, it has a significant meaning because it is where Jesus achieved our salvation. It helps me in particular to meditate upon the fact that he wants us all to carry our particular crosses and grow in grace. As a result, we learn to love and sacrifice better. Thus, we grow in virtue. We all need symbols in our lives as a way to learn to live like Jesus lived, why should the cross be excluded. Yes, there are many pictures of Jesus both before and after the Resurection to meditate upon. But why should we skip over the cross just because it is sometimes difficult to look at (like in Mel Gibson’s movie)?
When it occured to me to ask this question, I did a brief web search to find an appropriate Catholic site to help me pose my question. Please go to it and please explain the Mormon perspective on this confusing question.
davidmacd.com/catholic/why_portray_jesus_on_a_cross.htm
Kathy
Before you start mocking the Nicene Creed, you should at least make an attempt to understand the Trinity as it really is, not the way the Mormon Church fails to understand it. Your misunderstanding of it is based on the heresy of Modalism, and it’s never been taught by the Church.
She was assumed. She did not ascend. Big difference. Also, she did not do so to be Christ’s bride. The Church is Bride of Christ. BTW, when St. Augustine wrote that she was the only way deserving to be called the spouse of God, it was not to be taken literally.
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if this is the underlying reason for this entire thread being started…how often have we Catholics been attacked and then accused of not being charitable when we are up to our necks in uncharitable behavior from others. That does not mean that 2 wrongs make a right. But when someone who is a former Catholic and a staunch now Mormon wants to get to know each other, I see the underlying reason might just be to stir the pot of unrest and at a minimum…at a minimum…to be able to say “SEE ! I told you Catholics aren’t Christian!”
That’s one of everyone’s biggest problems.
I do consider myself to be catholic. This easter season, I will be with the nuns attending an adoration and together with other catholics and non-catholics we will watch the movie The Passion. Not to mention the easter Mass and other activities that the catholic church will sponsor.
I would prefer: Mormonism isn’t an imitation of anything: It is its own lamp shade.
you are a wolf in sheeps clothing
Annie – That’s all well and good. You have the right perspective. But I’ve heard of other Mormons who do seem to have a problem with the idea of the cross even going so far as to comparing it to AN ELECTRIC CHAIR and saying a person wouldn’t wear an electric chair around their necks. I’m glad your daughter wears a cross. It’s what Catholics sometimes call a “Holy Reminder.” And like you said, it reminds us of the length He went for us for our salvation.
Those Mormons are misinformed and I do not know how to answer for them. I, personally, feel that if we have something that is a “holy reminder” then we should use it! So many need more reminding, don’t you think
Yes I do. Maybe you and I are at least coming to an understanding of each other.Those Mormons are misinformed and I do not know how to answer for them. I, personally, feel that if we have something that is a “holy reminder” then we should use it! So many need more reminding, don’t you think
Annie
Yes I do. Maybe you and I are at least coming to an understanding of each other.
Kathy
So it’s called a trinity, but when you get down to specifics it’s a trinity of males plus one female. A quaternity, including the mother of the same person who was impregnated by her own father, then gave birth to her father who became her son, and has since been invited into her father/son’s house to reign as his “bride”. This is too simplistic, since there’s a holy spirit floating about too, who maybe is the father’s father’s father, making him Mary’s grandfather, or grandfather-in-law, or something.
Actually I think that was Dennis Leary who started the whole electric chair comparison.
No, that’s not right, because, unlike Mormons, we Catholics do not believe God has a father. He is God and there is no other. We believe God is truely ONE GOD IN THREE PERSONS!!!
