I'm starting to believe my friend!

[RomanRyan1088]

Luke24:

Hello RomanRyan1088, no you are not wrong to believe that. You believe the truth. An example is the statement like when you say this is my house, Jesus said He is the Rock and upon the confession of Peter that He is the Messiah, He will build His church. Matthew 16:16-18 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Something else I noticed is that someone answered and said that the Protestants have so many different beliefs, but that is not true. Most Protestant denominations have all the basic doctrines God has given to us in the Scriptures in common. I can go to a Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Christian Reform excluding all cults. The catholics have so many different beliefs and the majority do not believe they have to obey the pope. (smart thinking on their part)
:banghead: Be aware of any “church” that says they are the only true church because they usually has extra Biblical teaching as well as a misconstrued view of the Bible itself. They also will put their own writings and traditions above the Scriptures. Our salvation is Jesus Christ and His shed blood for our sins, not Jesus +, or the Scriptures +. It is His finished work on the cross and His resurrection and our confession in that work and resurrection that saves us. He promised eternal life to all those who believe in Him.

Also the apostles taught that the Scripture that was already written in New Testament times was on par with the Old Testament. Here is the proof. 2 Peter 3:13-18 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

Praise the LORD! :clapping: and all God’s children say…

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By reading your post, I am guessin you ain’t Catholic. Well just to all non-Catholics, not to be rude, but i would really like to hear what the CATHOLICS have to say on this issue, what my brothers and sisters think about my problem. The last thing i need is someone from the outside, trying to confuse me, and you know what, now that I think about it, i have been letting my friend, an outsider, preach and teach LIES to me when he has NEVER had any religious study like a Priest has. Oh no, im ganna have a little talk with him right now and preach the TRUTH.

THANKS TO ALL MY FELLOW CATHOLICS, CONTINUE TO HELP KIDS LIKE ME TO UNDERSTAND! oh and i please ask that you don’t stop talking about this subject, tell me WHY what I was starting to believe is Wrong, Wrong, WRONG!

 

[ralphinal]

RomanRyan1088:

By reading your post, I am guessin you ain’t Catholic. Well just to all non-Catholics, not to be rude, but i would really like to hear what the CATHOLICS have to say on this issue, what my brothers and sisters think about my problem. The last thing i need is someone from the outside, trying to confuse me, and you know what, not that I think about it, i have been letting my friend, an outsider, preach and teach LIES to me when he has NEVER had any religious study like a Priest has. Oh no, im ganna have a little talk with him right now and preach the TRUTH.

THANKS TO ALL MY FELLOW CATHOLICS, CONTINUE TO HELP KIDS LIKE ME TO UNDERSTAND! oh and i please ask that you don’t stop talking about this subject, tell me WHY what I was starting to believe is Wrong, Wrong, WRONG!

Keep posting your questions, my young brother, i do enjoy talking to you about the faith.

 

[RomanRyan1088]

Be aware of any “church” that says they are the only true church

OH AND PLEASE TELL ME, CAN YOU FIND THE MAN THAT ESTABLISHED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Luther=Lutherians (sp?)
John Calvin= Calvinist
Catholic Church = ----------------------- Anyone out there Feel free to fill in the Blank.

 

[ralphinal]

RomanRyan1088:

Be aware of any “church” that says they are the only true church

OH AND PLEASE TELL ME, CAN YOU FIND THE MAN THAT ESTABLISHED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Luther=Lutherians (sp?)
John Calvin= Calvinist
Catholic Church = ----------------------- Anyone out there Feel free to fill in the Blank.

JESUS: no other name makes historic sense.

 

[RomanRyan1088]

SPOKENWORD:

Jesus said, I am the Way,the TRUTH, and the Life.There only can be one truth,and His name is JESUS CHRIST

brother, and who teaches us the truth? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!

 

[ralphinal]

By the way, our salvation is dependant on how we act upon God’s grace in our lives. That said, people who know that the Catholic Church is the true Church must follow the Catholic Faith. Those who through no fault of their own do not know the truth must act upon the grace given to them by God. This is where there is some truth in the origional question. Someone who does not know better can get to heaven as a baptist, methodist, even JW, buddist, or atheist. But, the more you see the truth presented to you, the more you are expected to follow. After all, to those who much is given, much is expected.

 

[MariaG]

Here is some Scripture all telling us the Church is One.

Jn 10:16
Eph 4:3-6
Rom 16:17 This one tells us to avoid those who cause discensions. What is more discentful than a church that breaks away from the Catholic Church. Up until 1000, there was ONE church. All Protestant churches came from Luther who caused more discension than anyone else I know!

There are more verses, many more, telling us to be one church. While it may be okay for your friend to be in the church he is, you my friend would be putting yourself in serious mortal risk if you leave the one true faith. Continue to study, but make sure that which you study is seriously grounded in good Catholic theology.

God Bless

 

[Luke24]

Just because you have a large following does not make you right.

Matthew 7:12-29 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

 

[ralphinal]

Luke24:

Just because you have a large following does not make you right.

Matthew 7:12-29 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

Great Post…this is a great example of Jesus teaching that not by faith alone are we saved, but by works and faith, and that if Jesus had authority he could pass it along to his Church!!!

 

[Luke24]

Acts 2:37-38 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Ac 2:38
Repent. Ac 3:19; 17:30; 20:21; 26:20; Mt 3:2,8; 4:17; 21:28-32; Lu 15:1-32; 24:47
be. Ac 8:36-38; 16:15,31-34; 22:16; Tit 3:5; 1Pe 3:21
in. Ac 8:12; 10:48; 19:4-5; Mt 28:19; Ro 6:3; 1Co 1:13-17
and ye. Ac 16:1-18; 8:15-17; 10:44-45; Isa 32:15; 44:3; 59:21; Eze 36:25-27; 39:29; Joe 2:28-29; Zec 12:10
Now let me ask you a question:
Were these babies?
Did you ever read about a baby being baptized in the Bible?
There is no record of a baby being baptized except in the catholic church and some protestant denominations who still hold to parts of *tradition. *To me that is not a question of salvation. According to Scripture we are saved first and then baptized anyway.

The order goes like this: REPENT of your sins, CONFESS YOUR SINS TO GOD, BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and then you can be baptized. You will find that all throughout the New Testament. Now if you don’t want to do that and continue with your *traditions *then you are calling God a liar because the Scriptures are His inspired Word, not your traditions.

And you cannot even compare it to circumcision like many do because that is a covenant sign given to the Jews and all who converted to the Jewish faith, which put them under the Law until Christ’s death burial and resurrection since He fulfilled the Law.
Genesis 17:9-10 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
Every. Ge 11:1-32; 34:15; Ex 4:25; 12:48; De 10:16; 30:6; Jos 5:2,4; Jer 4:4; 9:25-26; Ac 7:8; Ro 2:28; 3:1,25,28; 4:9-11; 1Co 7:18-19; Ga 3:28; 5:3-6; 6:12; Eph 2:11; Php 3:3; Col 2:11-12

Romans 6:4-5 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Ro 6:4
we are. Ro 3:1-31; Col 2:12; 3:1-3; 1Pe 3:21
that. Ro 9:1-33; 8:11; 1Co 6:14; 2Co 13:4; Eph 1:19; 2:5-6
by the. Mt 28:2-3; Joh 2:11,19; 11:40; Col 1:11
even. Ro 16:27; 7:6; 12:1; 13:13-14; 2Co 5:17; Ga 6:15-16; Eph 4:17,22-24; 5:8; Php 3:17-18; Col 1:9-12; 2:11; 3:10; 4:1; 1Pe 4:1-2; 2Pe 1:4-9; 1Jo 2:6

I hope this clarifies some things for you.

 

[ralphinal]

What about the baptism of the households in Acts 16? Can you say that there were no children there? Can you say that even the servents and slaves that would have been considered part of the households came ot understand the Faith and chose to be baptised? Paul baptised the entire household of Stephanas (1 Cor 1:16)

Romans 6:4-5 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection

This verse helps to prove that Baptism cannot be just a sign. Where does it say that only adults can be baptised? If Baptism is required for salvation (remember water and the spirit), and Jesus said that no one is to prevent the little ones form coming to him, then baptise infants, please.

 

[MariaG]

Does that Clarify things? Yes, it tells me you own a Bible but somehow don’t read the very verses you tell us to look at. Circumcision in the Jewish faith was and is done to infants on the eigth day. Col 2:12-13 compares circumcision to baptism. why the comparrisson if baptism wasn’t done on infants. The Bible also tells us to keep not the little children from Him. Denying Children Baptism appears to contradict the teachings of christ as recorded in the Bible and the first 100 recorded years of Christianity that tell of infant baptism.

 

[RomanRyan1088]

Luke24:

Acts 2:37-38 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Ac 2:38
Repent. Ac 3:19; 17:30; 20:21; 26:20; Mt 3:2,8; 4:17; 21:28-32; Lu 15:1-32; 24:47
be. Ac 8:36-38; 16:15,31-34; 22:16; Tit 3:5; 1Pe 3:21
in. Ac 8:12; 10:48; 19:4-5; Mt 28:19; Ro 6:3; 1Co 1:13-17
and ye. Ac 16:1-18; 8:15-17; 10:44-45; Isa 32:15; 44:3; 59:21; Eze 36:25-27; 39:29; Joe 2:28-29; Zec 12:10
Now let me ask you a question:
Were these babies?
Did you ever read about a baby being baptized in the Bible?
There is no record of a baby being baptized except in the catholic church and some protestant denominations who still hold to parts of *tradition. *To me that is not a question of salvation. According to Scripture we are saved first and then baptized anyway.

The order goes like this: REPENT of your sins, CONFESS YOUR SINS TO GOD, BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and then you can be baptized. You will find that all throughout the New Testament. Now if you don’t want to do that and continue with your *traditions *then you are calling God a liar because the Scriptures are His inspired Word, not your traditions.

And you cannot even compare it to circumcision like many do because that is a covenant sign given to the Jews and all who converted to the Jewish faith, which put them under the Law until Christ’s death burial and resurrection since He fulfilled the Law.
Genesis 17:9-10 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
Every. Ge 11:1-32; 34:15; Ex 4:25; 12:48; De 10:16; 30:6; Jos 5:2,4; Jer 4:4; 9:25-26; Ac 7:8; Ro 2:28; 3:1,25,28; 4:9-11; 1Co 7:18-19; Ga 3:28; 5:3-6; 6:12; Eph 2:11; Php 3:3; Col 2:11-12

Romans 6:4-5 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Ro 6:4
we are. Ro 3:1-31; Col 2:12; 3:1-3; 1Pe 3:21
that. Ro 9:1-33; 8:11; 1Co 6:14; 2Co 13:4; Eph 1:19; 2:5-6
by the. Mt 28:2-3; Joh 2:11,19; 11:40; Col 1:11
even. Ro 16:27; 7:6; 12:1; 13:13-14; 2Co 5:17; Ga 6:15-16; Eph 4:17,22-24; 5:8; Php 3:17-18; Col 1:9-12; 2:11; 3:10; 4:1; 1Pe 4:1-2; 2Pe 1:4-9; 1Jo 2:6

I hope this clarifies some things for you.

PLEASE, DONT ARGUE HERE, JUST CHAT, AND DONT BASDH EACHOTHER.

 

[hlgomez]

RomanRyan,

I would like to add something. In the OT, Israel was called upon by God and made them His own people. He didn’t call the others like the Hitities, Perezites, Hivites, Canaanites, etc. His own people. In other words he chooses Israel and made a covenant with them.

Now, in the NT, Christ established His Church. He didn’t establish a foundation to many churches but only to one church, founded upon Peter. Peter being called upon to lead the pilgrim Church on earth, was given the keys, which symbolizes authority. It’s also wonderful to hear that Christ promised He will be in His Church until the end–until He comes again.

To say that it’s ok to be in any churches is to tread upon Christ’s authority. In fact, Christ wants only one Church, as manifested in His desire for the unity of Christians–“that they me be ONE”. This also means that Christ wants our separated brothers to embrace only one truth, and that truth is fully deposited in the Catholic Church. Although not everyone will accept the teachings of the Catholic CHurch (even Catholics themselves), but it doesn’t make it right for them who deny the teachings/truth.

Pio

 

[Charles]

RomanRyan1088:

No im not, do you think you can explain it to me.

I’m happy to do so. I’m sorry that my assumption was incorrect, my instruction included this and I unfortunately presumed it was a regular part of Church teaching.

Perhaps the place to start (others have already done so, but I like to keep my posts complete) is with how Peter got his name. We take up the story in Matthew Chapter 16. Jesus asked his apostles who people were saying He was. They told him what they had heard and then Christ asked them who they thought He was. Peter responds:

You are the messiah, the son of the living God.

Jesus reply’s to Peter (previously named Simon):

Blessed are you Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven; and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven.

I’m not sure if you are familiar with the term antecedent, but given the care with which Jesus chose his words and the lack of a follow on antecedent to Peter, the word “you” in this quote seems obviously to point to him as the recipient of this blessing and commission. Mark and Luke also include Peter’s confession, though they leave out Christ’s response. As Matthew is considered canonical by virtually all Christian religions, this should not cause you to doubt the authenticity of the statement attributed to Christ.

Other considerations: Peter is always mentioned first in lists of the apostles in Scriptures. Peter is shown as the major leader of the early Church in Acts, before this book moves on to a description of early missionary work in the Mediterraenean area, Peter was interred in Rome, the center of the western world at that time, where he founded the Diocese that has ever since been the legitimate home of the Pope.

The Church professes it’s understanding of Peter quite well in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC):

552 Simon Peter holds the first place in the college of the twelve, Jesus entrusted a unique mission to him…

… Christ the “living stone” thus assures his Church, built on Peter, of victory over the powers of death. Because of the faith he confessed Peter will remain the unshakeable rock of the Church. His message will be to keep this faith from every lapse and to strengthen his brothers in it.

553 …Jesus entrusted this authority [the “power of the keys” which the Church acknowledges as the authority to govern the house of God] to the Church through the ministry of the Apostles and in particular through the ministry of Peter, the only one to whom he specifically entrusted the keys of the kingdom.

881 The Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the “rock” of His Church. He gave him the keys of His Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

This briefly summarizes the scriptural roots of the teaching, as well as the Church interpretation of it.

We have a responsibility to share our Faith to non-believers. Hopefully you will be able to use this to educate your friend and shore up your own faith.

Accepting Church doctines will be difficult for a Protestant, at least initially, but if you continue to live a life of obedience, faith, and submission, while also articulating your faith, you will probably be surprised how God uses you to work things out in His own time.

 

[Curious]

Hello Roman,

I read where you would rather here from Catholics…I’m a Protestant, but let my say one tiny thing and I’ll hush and keep out of it.

I just thought I’d slip in a little advice (which you may have already been given or already thought of) is not to leave a church…be it Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, whatever without lots of study and prayer.

The idea of “church shopping” has its appeal for awhile, but I’ll tell you that gets old after awhile, at least it has for me.

So I’ll get to the point…from you last few posts you seem to feel better about the subject and that’s great. But if you’re confronted with this again, research and study and pray like mad for the truth. It’s been my understanding that most people that enter the RCC go through this process before entering in…it’s only logical that Catholics who are having doubts, or tempted to leave the Church go through the same process.

Make sense?

Hushing up now…

 

[Delgadoajj]

RomanRyan:

Stay strong in the Truth!!! You are VERY fortunate to be Catholic.

Tu hermano en Cristo ,

Jorge.

 

[Faustina]

Curious:

Hello Roman,

I read where you would rather here from Catholics…I’m a Protestant, but let my say one tiny thing and I’ll hush and keep out of it.

I just thought I’d slip in a little advice (which you may have already been given or already thought of) is not to leave a church…be it Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, whatever without lots of study and prayer.

The idea of “church shopping” has its appeal for awhile, but I’ll tell you that gets old after awhile, at least it has for me.

So I’ll get to the point…from you last few posts you seem to feel better about the subject and that’s great. But if you’re confronted with this again, research and study and pray like mad for the truth. It’s been my understanding that most people that enter the RCC go through this process before entering in…it’s only logical that Catholics who are having doubts, or tempted to leave the Church go through the same process.

Make sense?

Hushing up now…

Very good advice and well put.

Talking to your priest or Religious director can always help as well as here on the forums.

 

[Faustina]

Luke24:

Matthew 7:12-29 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

There is so much in this post, and so much to say that it could be another book. :ehh: So I will just comment on the two that things that struck me first: :yup:

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

False Prophets- Could this be Calvin, Luther? There have been so many false prophets that have tried to led the people away from the True Church of Christ, thru the 2000 years of her history.

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

This is such a good comparison of the Catholic and Protestant churches. The Catholic Church, built on a rock foundation (Peter)
and the constant splintering of the Protestant churches, built on an unstable foundation such as sand.

 

[mark_a]

… theory. Oh and another thing, my friend said that when Jesus gave the keys to peter, and said " The gates of hell shall not pervail against it", he didn’t mean the CATHOLIC church, he was talking about Christianity in general, and i got to say, it makes sence. Am I wrong to believe this, please i don’t think this is right, but i feel like i have been wrong for a long time. .
Roman-

Keep looking and keep asking and stay open to the truth. Is your friend an ex-Catholic? If not, how did he come to believe that the keys were given to Peter?

If you really think that any religion is ok, then remember too that the Catholic Church is ok. Be extremely care of anyone who “sells” their flavor of religion by telling you what is wrong with the Catholic (or any other) Church. Some of these people can quote scripture like they’re reading it, are very intimidating, and may view you as “easy pickings”. Steer clear of any church whose foundation is hatred or claiming to have the “inside scoop”.

Kind regards.