Imagine rolling up to your kids elementary class and being greeted by this

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And people have spent hours and hours posting on these threads that the Earth is an oblate spheroid.

You are suggesting that Catholics believe that the Earth is flat, I hope.
 
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Where did I say that? I am referencing a select FEW posters who had an idée fixe about this.
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I think the initial suggestion was that “Science is Real” in needed because many do not believe in “science”.
Motherwit said:
It’s basically science that is being denied by the plandemic conspiracy theorists.
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Regular_Atheist said:
Ignoring the question of “what science thinks”, I do think the gender essentialist crowd struggles a bit more with making the biological facts fit their schema. Most of them want to reduce sex to a question of what chromosomes an individual has, but there are people with XY chromosomes that are born with external female genitalia and appear to be fully female. When it comes to actually discussing the facts most of them just want to handwave the actual range of possibilities that exist in terms of physical sex, while appealing to some dogmatic belief that biology supports them.
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Later it morphed into flat earthers on this Catholic site…
Sarcelle said:
You’re right

Have you seen the flat earth thread that just came out?
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I think most Catholics believe the earth is an oblate spherhoid and believe in science in general.
 
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vz71 said:
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Nepperhan:
Are you saying that is the reason Pence could not say “Black Lives Matter”?
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No, what I am saying was very clearly written…
vz71 said:
The American Cancer society has not caused violence and criminal activity.
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As to what Pence has to do with it is your issue.
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The thought “Black Lives Matter” has not caused violence or criminal activity. Pence is involved in this issue because he seemed to have had a reluctance or inability (or a refusal) to make his face say “Black Lives Matter”.
 
QuillWriter said:
Maybe they could spend more time teaching spelling, rather than pontificating about how politically virtuous they are.
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Agreed, that’s the worst of it. There are fools everywhere, but in a school even the fools need to be able to read and write.
 
upant said:
would you accept a religious statement?
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Yes, at a religious school. My school had a sign on the door: “Let it be known to all who enter here that Jesus Christ is the reason for this school, the teacher, the model and the inspiration.”
 
Nepperhan said:
Yes, at a religious school. My school had a sign on the door: “Let it be known to all who enter here that Jesus Christ is the reason for this school, the teacher, the model and the inspiration.”
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would you accept it at a public school?
 
upant said:
would you accept it at a public school?
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No, not what was posted at my parochial school. I don’t believe in putting my religion on others. You know, religious freedom and all that.
 
Nepperhan said:
Pence is involved in this issue because he seemed to have had a reluctance or inability (or a refusal) to make his face say “Black Lives Matter”.
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Because he is unwilling to pledge his support to an anti-family, anti-American organization? To believe that the expression is just three little words, with no greater significance is naive at best.
 
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Nepperhan:
No, not what was posted at my parochial school. I don’t believe in putting my religion on others. You know, religious freedom and all that.
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Sometimes a school should post what it believes.
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what if the public school believed it
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I think the point is that whether you call it “public school” or “default school” or whatever, people hope there’ll be a non-private ‘default’ school system accessible to them at least as an option, that will stick to just teaching kids non-controversial subjects like math and grammar, without trying to mold them into little soldiers for some specific belief system. A school system that leaves topics particular to religious (or philosophical) belief, in the realm of whatever the parents teach at home.

It’s fine to have lots of additional options (like religious private schools of every stripe) for those who want to send their kids to a place that will specifically instill such religious (or non-religious philosophy) beliefs.

But it gets concerning when the only accessible public school basically has a religious-style agenda, and there’s no ‘opting-out’. (Even if, insidiously, there’s a certain kind of religious fundamentalism out there today that thinks they’ve got a get-off-the-hook-free card because they technically identify their ideology under a ‘non-religious’ philosophy. But the end result is the same as if it were a religious school: cognitive colonization of the thought processes of every kid there, to a system of beliefs and values that a parent should be able to choose whether or not to subject their kids to.)

In the absence of such an option, yeah, I get the trend toward homeschooling.
 
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MikeInVA said:
Because he is unwilling to pledge his support to an anti-family, anti-American organization?
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You misconstrue the idea with the organization. Pence could not state support for the idea-- that’s sad.
 
MNathaniel said:
I think the point is that whether you call it “public school” or “default school” or whatever, people hope there’ll be a non-private ‘default’ school system accessible to them at least as an option , that will stick to just teaching kids non-controversial subjects like math and grammar, without trying to mold them into little soldiers for some specific belief system.
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I talked of my school. There’s really no religious content to the sign.

Folks here have been unable to state disagreement with the sentiments. Is this politicization of a public school? Not really, the sign seems to contain some generic bromides. If that seems to make some people uneasy, I don’t know why.
 
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you can’t tell the difference on the street… or in the news.

is the looter part of the idea or organization… or both?
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You and I both know that the organization has few people but the idea has promoted protests nationwide.
 
Nepperhan said:
I talked of my school. There’s really no religious content to the sign.

Folks here have been unable to state disagreement with the sentiments. Is this politicization of a public school? Not really, the sign seems to contain some generic bromides. If that seems to make some people uneasy, I don’t know why.
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There’s implicit religious (/anti-religious) content to the sign.

I gave an example in one of my comments upthread. It’s to do with baggage usually accompanying certain bumper-sticker slogans as the teacher included on that sign, which we can presume the teacher has in mind (and explicates) when she teaches the children what they all mean when they say “we believe” those things.

Specifically, so you don’t have to seek my comment out, I gave the example that the “Love is love” bumper sticker slogan is typically used to signify active affirmation of romantic relationships outside the context of marriage between one man and one woman.

Such affirmation is explicitly against the teachings of several religions, and parents trying to raise their children within one of these religions, will be disturbed by a public school teacher actively trying to teach their minor child to believe something contrary to their religion.
 
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Nepperhan said:
You and I both know that the organization has few people but the idea has promoted protests nationwide.
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we don’t know that

the organization is supposedly raking in the money. it is coming from somebody.

I can not tell if the looter is part of the idea or organization and very few are denouncing the violence.
 
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