Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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You don’t have to be the epitome of anything. You have to rise to the occasion as he did.
 
drcube said:
Only in the sense that they thought that there was more than 1 Republican that would be an honest broker in the Senate.
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Let’s not be ridiculous. This is a 100% partisan cookery, with all Dems but one or two voting to impeach in the House, all Repubs against. In the Senate, all but perhaps one or two Dems will vote to convict, and only one Repub senator for.

Could have saved a lot of time and money by simply voting the party line in the morning in the House, and in the senate later that afternoon.
 
What’s the score now? Something like Trump-106: Democrats-0?

You can’t write a script any funnier than this.
 
Nah,he’s just another elitist politician who can’t get over the fact that he lost in 2012. Add to that he went begging for a position in the Trump Administration and was denied that as well.Good thing because he would have just worked against the president from within.LOSER! Mittens :roll_eyes:
 
RuthAnne said:
Romney is hardly the epitome of honesty.
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When the Fox News crowd turns on Trump, Romney has positioned himself to be a leader in whatever the Republican Party has going forward.
Ridgerunner said:
Let’s not be ridiculous. This is a 100% partisan cookery, with all Dems but one or two voting to impeach in the House, all Repubs against. In the Senate, all but perhaps one or two Dems will vote to convict, and only one Repub senator for.

Could have saved a lot of time and money by simply voting the party line in the morning in the House, and in the senate later that afternoon.
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I think it was a useful exercise. After all, I didn’t really understand how corrupt the entire Republican Party is. Now I do.
 
So if someone is not persuaded by the arguments put forth by the Democrats, then they are “dishonest brokers?”
 
Jeanne_S said:
Nah,he’s just another elitist politician who can’t get over the fact that he lost in 2012. Add to that he went begging for a position in the Trump Administration and was denied that as well.Good thing because he would have just worked against the president from within.
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Then he moved to Utah to get the support of the Mormons, which support he probably frittered away with his vote to convict.

Romney was so awful a candidate in 2012 that he lost to Obama. How bad do you have to be to lose that race?
 
drcube said:
When the Fox News crowd turns on Trump, Romney has positioned himself to be a leader in whatever the Republican Party has going forward.
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I would say there is zero chance of Romney ever being a person of respect in the Repub party again, let alone a “leader”. He had a choice of exercising rationality or venting his spleen, and he vented. Nobody respects that.
drcube said:
I think it was a useful exercise. After all, I didn’t really understand how corrupt the entire Republican Party is. Now I do.
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Corruption is not measured by your prejudices. But I do think there is something to be learned from all of this. The political polarization is complete. For a long time, the Dems were the only ones with sufficient discipline to adhere to their leaders’ party line. The Repubs were more diffuse. The latter now seems to be firming up. I doubt the Repubs will ever be as disciplined as the Dems, but they’re moving in that direction.
 
KMC said:
So if someone is not persuaded by the arguments put forth by the Democrats, then they are “dishonest brokers?”
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I haven’t seen an adequate explanation on why someone would support acquittal except for partisan reasons.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Corruption is not measured by your prejudices. But I do think there is something to be learned from all of this. The political polarization is complete. For a long time, the Dems were the only ones with sufficient discipline to adhere to their leaders’ party line. The Repubs were more diffuse. The latter now seems to be firming up. I doubt the Repubs will ever be as disciplined as the Dems, but they’re moving in that direction.
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Corruption is measured by corruption. It is now okay to extort a foreign country to help your political campaign by withholding funds earmarked by another branch of government.

It was one party that did that. The Republicans.
 
Hats off to the Republican Senators for doing the right thing.

Schumer as well for suitable closing remarks.
 
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Ridgerunner said:
I would say there is zero chance of Romney ever being a person of respect in the Repub party again
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He was never respected that much. He was more of a democrat than a republican and he was so disliked that he even lost to Obama. That’s pretty bad.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I would say there is zero chance of Romney ever being a person of respect in the Repub party again, let alone a “leader”. He had a choice of exercising rationality or venting his spleen, and he vented. Nobody respects that.
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Have you listened to Trump? Talk about venting a spleen.
 
He is a religious Republican who takes his oath before God seriously.
He said it, and I believe him.
At this point he has nothing but his honesty and 39 lashes. Nothing but pain. Nothing but suffering. He will endure those things integrity intact before God but also his children.
I feel sorry PARTISANSHIP prevents people from seeing what courage is.
I didn’t say right or wrong! I SAID COURAGE. It is your loss
 
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