Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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HarryStotle:
So it’s “improper” to “look into” possible corruption?
No. It is improper to bug hotel rooms. It is improper to co-opt the powers of US foreign policy for your personal ends.
So, it is likewise improper for FBI agents to surveil (via modern bugging) American citizens based upon falsified FISA warrants?

I am glad we agree.
 
By the way, the Russia collusion narrative is now being investigated by Barr and Durham because there is actual evidence that the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and the NSA, along with individuals from Great Britain and Australia, attempted to entrap people connected to the Trump campaign
This administration sure does like starting investigations. Its almost like they’re using them as a political tool. Lets not learn any lessons about how they’ve ended so far:


 
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HarryStotle:
By the way, the Russia collusion narrative is now being investigated by Barr and Durham because there is actual evidence that the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and the NSA, along with individuals from Great Britain and Australia, attempted to entrap people connected to the Trump campaign
This administration sure does like starting investigations. Its almost like they’re using them as a political tool. Lets not learn any lessons about how they’ve ended so far:
You mean as in the two year long Mueller investigation? And the impeachment investigation that turned up nothing but hearsay?

As to the Salon article: the author, Igor Derysh, compares Clinton Cash to the Steele Dossier, when Steele himself admitted to a British court that it was a fabricated hit piece.


Perhaps you ought to notify IGOR DERYSH, the author of the Salon piece, before he embarrasses himself further with his inept reporting?
 
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You mean as in the two year long Mueller investigation?
People are in jail for an awfully long time for “nothing”
And the impeachment investigation that turned up nothing but hearsay?
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Impeachment of Donald J. Trump World News
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Impeachment of Donald J. Trump World News
In messages with Parnas sent in the spring of 2019, Hyde responded to negative articles about Yovanovitch by with: “Wow. Can’t believe Trumo [sic] hasn’t fired this bitch. I’ll get right in that.” He then sent a series of messages that appear to suggest someone was watching her location, and a cryptic note saying: “They are willing to help if we/you would like a price.” Hyde followed that up with: “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money… what I was told.” Lets see if a defens…
Perhaps you ought to notify IGOR DERYSH, the author of the Salon piece, before he embarrasses himself further with his inept reporting?
Oh? Do you know of some indictments or convictions that came out of Trump’s investigation of Hillary Clinton? Or is Igor right and it came up empty.
 
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I always thought to be careful NOT to ASSUME… times have changed???
Sorry, would infer be better? Yes, we can infer that what Trump sought from the Ukrainian government was personal since he sent his personal attorney. There. That is better.
 
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You completely ignored my point.
Because it was a desperate deflection away from the evidence that the administration’s investigations haven’t led to anything. If you know Igor is wrong, just post a news source that accurately says how many convictions came out of the Trump’s Hillary investigation.
 
Here’s the clincher… Republicans agreed that Nixon broke the law… it was a bi-partisan agreement…
 
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HarryStotle:
You completely ignored my point.
Because it was a desperate deflection away from the evidence that the administration’s investigations haven’t led to anything. If you know Igor is wrong, just post a news source that accurately says how many convictions came out of the Trump’s Hillary investigation.
My comment wasn’t about the investigation it was about the author’s comparison of the Steele Dossier to Schweizer’s Clinton Cash.

Steele admitted it was fabricated, Schweizer stands by his work and has written another to follow up on the first.
 
My comment wasn’t about the investigation it was about the author’s comparison of the Steele Dossier to Schweizer’s Clinton Cash.

Steele admitted it was fabricated, Schweizer stands by his work and has written another to follow up on the first.
Sounds like a good topic for not this thread.
 
Here’s the clincher… Republicans agreed that Nixon broke the law… it was a bi-partisan agreement…
So the only thing a political party has to do to make their president unimpeachable is refuse to admit wrongdoing?
 
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HarryStotle:
My comment wasn’t about the investigation it was about the author’s comparison of the Steele Dossier to Schweizer’s Clinton Cash.

Steele admitted it was fabricated, Schweizer stands by his work and has written another to follow up on the first.
Sounds like a good topic for not this thread.
I have a post waiting approval showing two pages from the Parnas trove of documents.

Here is the WP slideshow of the 38 pages.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/cont...e-house/2bcc0ac0-c46d-4ef3-ba90-49ecdcc918e2/
 
Forget political parties. Think of truth, justice and the rule of law… Honest men and women come to the SAME conclusion if the facts add up. That’s how we get consensus. I’ve been a juror and the evidence is presented, it’s either convincing or there are alternate reasonable explanations or there are not… Don’t be afraid. Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and don’t hide exculpatory evidence. Let it ALL come out and see where the chips may fall.
Don’t jump to conclusions.
 
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HarryStotle:
You mean as in the two year long Mueller investigation?
People are in jail for an awfully long time for “nothing”
Speak to Arthur Andersen about the American judicial system when Mueller and Weissman are involved.

Some 28 000 employees lost their jobs, most permanently.

Then the Supreme Court in a rare unanimous decision overturned the lower court.

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/...e-court-throws-out-arthur-andersen-conviction

Prosecutorial misconduct on the part of Weissman has been cited as a factor in the overturning.


By the way, Weissman was Mueller’s lead, and oversaw the Manafort prosecution.
 
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